After a recent forced update, I can no longer login to my bank account, the app brings up google play and expects me to login to gplay for what ever reason,I am not logged into that cancer on my phone, so now I am fuming and don’t want to be forced to make a google account on the phone. (by the way I have been using aurora to avoid gplay)
I am hoping someone has a some trick or app to bypass this ? I have talked to the bank but there is nothing they can do for just one weird customer !
Everything is going to shit in this dystopian technocracy
That’s insane. And it seems perhaps like an ugly case of integration gone wrong. Are you able to Use the website and add a bookmark to the website onto your phone’s home screen or something?
That might bypass any app-based logins.
Making a work profile using Insular or something? Or maybe create a different user?
I believe you can still access internet-banking, without the need for an app?
Maybe, setup MicroG. If the your bank app just redirects you to google play store app, I think Aurora Store might be able to fool it, considering you disable or remove GPlay using
adb
or something.Complain to your bank, obviously.
I did, doesn’t change a thing, I have no power to influence what they add into their app
No power to influence it is incorrect. You do not have the power to change it. However, if you leave, you are a data point. If lots of people leave, they are also data points. Data influences decisions at most companies. This statement does not imply the data is read correctly, nor that the decisions made in light of the interpretation of the data are the best ones.
Sadly the only power you have is to switch banks, and let them know when you close your account why. I switched from Ally to Aspiration partially because of this.
Techno bureaucracy https://invidious.perennialte.ch/watch?v=H8qrbwfhtn4 / https://youtu.be/H8qrbwfhtn4
Change bank.
Don’t use the app.
very hard to change the bank when alot of payment accounts are linked to it.
they have moved most of the features to the app the web portal is very barebone.
very hard to degoogle your phone/life. sounds like youre willing to put some work in…
It may be hard and take time, but it sounds like it would be worth at least starting the process and slowly take steps to move. If they’ve done this, what’s the likelihood that they’ll do something even worse later?
my concern is what if after all the hassle the next bank pulls the same act ? and the next one !
That’s a valid concern.
“my concern about leaving my abusive partner is what if after all the hassle the next one pulls the same act ? and the next one !”
There are many banks and (better yet) credit unions. Not all of them are awful. Be brave. Take action.
My bank did the same… except not really. A bunch of functions still opens in the browser, but you can only get to them via the app, not directly using just the browser.
Another option for you would just be “buy a secondhand cheap phone for banking and nothing else”
What are a lot of payment accounts?
If I had too many services I pay for, I’d try reducing that as well. Less is more for me.
Acting on your principles isn’t always easy.
Nobody should be using a bank which requires a mobile app in the first place. iOS is proprietary closed-source software and FOSS Android-based OSs likely won’t work because of the the SafetyNet lockdown.
We do not currently have decent privacy on mobile, period. If you can’t do everything on the web, change bank.
BTW I did just this myself. Opened a Revolut account and then closed it after discovering that the web app was not fully functional. Here in Europe at least, I believe Revolut is exceptional in its obnoxious attitude to user privacy.
GrapheneOS is both secure and private. It also supports hardware based attestation (No need for SafetyNet). It’s just that mediocre people who develop these apps do not wish to support freedom respecting platforms.
Absolutely. There remains the small issue that Graphene only works on devices made by a certain purveyor of mass-surveillance spyware.
De-Google your life by purchasing Google hardware! What could possibly go wrong?
If you can’t do everything on the web, change bank.
And to be clear, make sure you can do everything on a web site. Not a Chrome site.
Why install an app when you can just use the bank’s website?
they have moved most of the features to the app, the web portal is very bare bone.
Sounds like a shitty bank.
Which shitty bank is this?
Yes, warn us who to avoid.
*whom
Oh my god who gives a shit
At least two other people and I, clearly.
My bank app entirely disabled itself because they “detected” that I use a modified OS. I only use web since then.
If you’re really going to stick to aurora or avoid gplay (even a burner account for just your bank would be enough to help you out here), you’re gonna be eventually stuck with web/telephone banking.
Anything else risks you getting flagged as suspicious by your bank, or at the very least opening your own attack surface to the same app by someone else.
There not much options here first old project twoji which android container basically or graphenos(voltageos which have same features as granhenos but for many other phones ) which make in container google apps
Separate cancer phone that you only use on WiFi would be my guess, short of the oft cited switching banks. Alternate could be to put payments all on a card and only use the card issuer’s site to make payments to them so you don’t have to directly interact with the bank.
I have this problem too… I use LineageOS with GPlay Store disabled and my bank’s app worked perfectly for a couple of years. Since a couple of months ago, I need to have GPlay Store enabled to be able to use it.
I’ve tried putting my Google account into Aurora Store and so far it works.
Buy a cheap second hand phone just for those apps and leave it at home… That way if you lose your phone you are not locked out
Change banks.
And make sure they know exactly why you left
They won’t care
This is the answer.