Why are you mad, Lemmy.ml and its constant propaganda and misinformation is one of the main reasons Lemmy isn’t thriving.
Try not to project .world on .ml for 5 seconds difficulty level impossible
This meme sucks.
LW dwarfes Lemmy.ml by any possible metric
It’s just that IG is much more popular than Reddit, so the Fediverse equivalents have the same ratio
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Good for pixelfed
Hell yeah! 2025 is the year of the
linuxFediversedesktop!If you look at monthly actives users instead of total users, Pixelfed is a strong 2nd place.
ikr lemmy has a little over 40k active users. If you look at the first data point just as the slope starts to rise, that’s where lemmy is by comparison:
Total users is pretty meaningless bc it includes things like users who left and will never return, and bot accounts.
What are you guys posting pictures of over on pixelfed? What’s goin’ on over there that’s so popular? Is it more politics, and social issues? Or is it cats?
Crazy enough. People are posting what they were posting on instagram.
…titty pictures of girls in bikinis from women who claim to be influencers, but have an audience that mostly doesn’t communicate or care what she has to say, thus negating any influence her words have?
My dog. no really, hes a good boy.
And I follow one of the people from an Aquarium with fantastic shots.
I posted a guide to modding a tatacon for taiko no tatsujin
…did you just have a stroke??? Did you turn Japanese midsentence? What just happened here?
omae wa mō shindeiru
なに?!
That’s not Japanese fyi, 太鼓の達人 is the Japanese name
It is Japanese drumming game with an associated controller, I posted a guide with pictures to modify the drum controller so it’s more sensitive to being hit
I’d say it’s Japanese, just the romaji for 太鼓の達人. English translation would be like “drum master”
I mean yes but it’s also the official title for the English release of the game.
Like to be clear I’m not being the person who’s like “oh have you seen Kôkaku Kidôtai?” And then you’re like “what the fuck is that” and I’m like “uh, I guess if you’re uncultured you might know it as ghost in the shell.” And then everyone in the room groans because of fucking course every single person who speaks English as a native language has always called it ghost in the shell
I see what you mean, it’s good to clarify. This was all according to my keikaku
Severely underrated game (with also one of the most underrated minigames ever!). I just wish it had more vidya crossover music.
The new one has more game music than old ones did. But to get a lot of it you have to subscribe. Thankfully the subscription isn’t terribly expensive ($10/3mo) and it’s easy to get it in a way that doesn’t auto renew. Music licensing is stupid though so music games are dying and will probably forever be subscription services going forward. The days of buying a game like guitar hero are long gone.
It has the classic ones like Mario medley, Zelda overworld, Kirby, persona 5, undertale, etc. but the game pass adds stuff like tekken, id@lmaster, ridge racer, tales of symphonia, ace combat, etc.
it’s a weird mix that’s definitely missing a lot of iconic stuff though. The push is definitely more pop/vocaloid/anime music
Alternatively you can get something like opentaiko or tjaplayer (closer to the real game) and use custom charts from a site like https://ese.tjadataba.se/ESE/ESE . You need a pc but it doesn’t require a particularly great pc and pretty much every drum controller, including the official console ones, work on pc.
I definitely wish it was more popular in the west. Online play is an absolute ghost town unless you play during Japan time. Like if you play during peak us hours matchmaking will literally spend 20-30 minutes to find no one.
I dunno, I only follow capybarabot.
There’s a sudden influx of users from instagram and tiktok amd whatnot because of the ban, zuckerberg fellating Trump, and all of that stuff going on. So the answer to “What’s getting posted?” is “everything”
Interesting because i just joined 1 day ago so my feed only has 5 default following, but discover only has about 5 other peoples’ work repeated through the discover tab. It seems difficult to discover new people which could be a problem in retaining normal people after the ibflux, like what happened to lemmy
Which server did you join? I’ve been following lots of hashtags (including cats), so my feed there is pretty active. Just hoping some IRL friends and family will join soon so I have those sort of accounts to follow and share with.
Gram.social
To me, the entire idea behind federation is that, like mastodon and Lemmy, you can see everything in the space, not just what is on your own server, especially by default or extremely upfront and clear way to make the behavior like that. That is the entire thing people are afraid of when they have to choose a server which leads to centralization or people simply leaving.
I mean I also don’t get any of the hashtags I follow on my feed. Only the 5 accounts they forced me to follow by default.
It’s hard for me to believe the number of 44k monthly active users and yet the “most popular accounts” that I can see on discover have 45 followers and there is virtually no activity outside of a few photographers that imported their Instagram account.
I’m on Gram.social but don’t have that experience. Interesting.
Maybe federation isn’t working correctly for that instance? Maybe try to reach out to the admin?
Huh. Are you using the web browser or an app? Oddly, when I browse my gram.social home feed via the web browser, it’s mostly (but not exclusively) just the default accounts in my feed, but when I browse via the Pixelfed, PixelDroid, or Pixelix apps, I’m seeing lots of posts coming from many other servers, including Mastodon servers.
I am using the app. I sent a message to Stix the admin of the instance and magically a few hours later I was able to see everything (but no response). I wonder if there is a timed lockout or simply a soft ban to prevent spam on that instance. I also verified that discover indeed linked to other instances, but the results were still all but useless.
However, there is still no way I can find to switch to or even view the global feed on the app, but I can do that on the web browser app easily. Is there a setting that I am missing or so? It is very straightforward on every mastodon and lemmy app…
that user name logo should be a war crime
I have standing orders to invade the Hague if ever tried there
It’s hilarious because it is so distracting … I scroll down my page and see this loading icon and it took me several passes before I got used to it.
It’s like Pavlov’s dog … I see a loading icon and I immediately sit there and wait … for something, I don’t know what but I have to wait … I took me a few times before I got used to it.
From what I have found, its almost all photos of animals and nature. Honestly I am kinda disappointed. I want memes. I also got onto Loops and that is also mostly animals and nature, but with the very occasional funny.
Everything. It’s like early days Instagram, but people are more politically and socially aware, and posting about those things.
What’s first?
Mastodon
Misskey should have more active users, even more than Pixelfed right now. Almost all Japanese fediverse users are on Misskey instances.
A lot of post in Misskey instance are often followers only. I know several instance that the admin say they have thousands of users but simply not reporting any MAU users for certain reason. Even the one that report them are usually lower than actual MAU due to “offline mode”
What are the top 2? Mastodon and what else?
By registered accounts:
- Mastodon
- Misskey
- PeerTube
Mastodon is twitter, peer tube is youtube, foxelfed is Instagram… What is misskey?
Twitter. With a little google drive thrown into the mix. Plus simple custom algorithmic feeds. And some kooky animation stuff.
And also classic Facebook Social Games , Discord reaction, Facebook Groups, Facebook Photo Gallery, and some Japanese social media clone (that I forgot its name)
How the fuck is peertube above Lemmy??? What the actual fuck??? Everytime I go there, it’s the same 3 people who’ve made like 5 daily videos about linux…and nothing else ever.
I get that I’m not exactly the target linux audience, but if KDE pulls an update from version 6.1 to 6.2, THAT IS NOT BREAKING NEWS!!! You do not need 10 videos discussing the 4 new features every time any linux software updates.
But THAT has more users than THIS??? It’s a broken down joke with a lot of potential that will never be realized until their search becomes intutive and all inclusive! I should have video results natively within the same page that pulls from ALL of peertube. Not just the current instance.
“Trending” should default to trending on all of peertube. You can include a filter to show trending on local instance only, but it shouldn’t be the default.
I literally had never even heard of Misskey and Peertube lol. I have a hard time thinking too mostly unknowns are bigger than Lemmy.
MissKey is like facebook. It’s mostly Japanese users.
Peertube is like is Youtube had the same instance/decentralized format as Lemmy.
Except Lemmy actually has a functional search that you don’t need to go to an external website to use. It’s really broken.
I think that there’s a lot more on PeerTube than it seems because discoverability is so terrible. I can’t confirm that, though, because I can’t find any of it.
Maybe something like FediSearch will make it more useful?
In some countries with vpn blocking it’s the only way to get videos. there’s also a lot of instances that don’t federate. The default English relays are quite bad for English speakers but in French for example there’s a huge amount of content.
thanks. the link for this gives me what looks like a terminal. I sorta wish there was more of a centralized login thing.
It is simple and free of bloat. I like it much better than that youtube shorts analog I can’t remember the name of.
Yeah but pixelfed is coming out with loops, it’s been on beta for awhile, that is basically Tik Tok with no ads or government/big tech ownership. I personally feel like that could have taken a giant chunk of the Tik Tok users and kept them from having to learn to read ideograms to access content they wanted. I don’t personally use that format of social media but I tried it on Android and it looks just like Tik Tok looked that I have seen on others devices.
I just can’t imagine who will pay for that sort of reach. It’s incredibly expensive for self hosting operations like TikTok. I’d imagine it’d be outrageous without a CDN.
I’d imagine it’d be outrageous without a CDN.
The idea is you’d have dozens or hundreds of people hosting loops and they’d each spread the cost among them and get funded by followers and philanthropists. Most lemmy instances use CDN, but it’s nowhere near as heavy media-wise.
You could also go the Peertube route and have the client share what you’re watching with other people torrent style.
Maybe a CDN funded through a few non-profits, never looked into it
The only reason why no company could take over TikTok is their algorithm, its the worst yet the best part of the app, since you only see stuff you like, without having to search for similar accounts. I’ve been feeling lonely on the Fedi compared to other socials
This is cool, seems to work pretty well, and an easy way to find communities you want to subscribe to
Yeah, discoverability is work on Fedi, unfortunately most people would rather consume algo content from a bad source then work to find good people to follow.
Everything is open, I suspect if we REALLY wanted to we could make an indexing service to help surface content based on preferences, but then that’s a high value target for corporate America to farm. Also it would be pretty expensive to pay for it :)
Runs much faster than java BlueSky, the destroyer of batteries.
My feed on Pixelfed is way better the second week, now that I’ve followed a couple dozen folks and put some posts out there.
They need some starter packs like BlueSky because all I’m seeing are some art photography highly likely ai generated - and I have no idea where to find content that has any value. On searching the hashtags I’m getting mastodon posts containing links that can’t be clicked.
I thought that my first couple of days, but TBH, I actually really like that Fedi social media is completely self-directed. Not having the Jack Dorseys, Donald Trumps, and Zuckerbergs of the world vomiting content or stupid ads onto my feed is well worth the modicum of extra effort.
I found half of the people I’m following just by posting a picture of my dog and tagging it #CuteAnimals, and that got a nice response. I do follow a few hashtags and found follows there, but I will probably take them off once I’m up to 30-40 follows and I like my feed.
Mastodon has third-party starter packs now. I wonder if it works for Pixelfed?
I don’t know if Lemmy is for everyone, but I’m very happy to see the fedicerse gaining more traction.
Every user that onboards to pixelfed is going to now understand how to set up mastodon.
Blue sky is basically trying the exact same thing and expecting a different result.
Whats pixelfed all about? Im only now hearing about it.
photo sharing fediverse platform
Any good Android apps?
Pixelix!
It’s a couple bucks in the Play store or free on F-Droid.
Thanks! I don’t mind paying for something if it goes to a good place
Is this the fediverse’s answer to Instagram?
Yes.
-Instagram has pixelfed. -Reddit has lemmy -X has Mastodon/Misskey/Pleroma (&forks…) -Tiktok has loops (app still super rough around the edges and sadly on limited to one instance rather than having its own software from what i understand) -Youtube has peertube (so far the least used i think)
Yea peertube is rough… Mostly in part due to, in my opinion at least, people wanting to make use of YouTube’s ad revenue system even tho most creators I watch making most of their income via donations rather than ad revenue.
I can’t wait for peertube to take off. I think of all of the social medias, youtube has the most enduring monopoly, because hosting is such a huge barrier it’s got even more of a natural monopoly than regular social media.
I think once peertube can start ascending that might be the ballgame for decentralised social media in general.
Does peertube have monetization for creator’s? Because that’s how you get content that most people watch.
Honestly youtube barely has it currently. The vast majority of creators make very little on the platform and rely largely on supporter donations, merch and sponsorships, which could work on any platform.
By squeezing creators out of every penny they can, youtube has forced people to find other options abd made themselves less and less relevant. I guess that’s enshittification for you.
You can also gate access to certain videos on peertube, so a nebula-like model might also work eventually.
I’m genuinely confused. Is YouTube even profitable ATP? Hard to imagine it not being so but they’ve been doubling down on squeezing out every coin they can, trying to fight adblock is one example, pushing out more ads too. Wtf even is going on over there.
Different metrics on profitability. Are you judging their hosting costs on how much it actually costs Google to add more in their already existing data centers for YouTube like a good vertically integrated monopoly or are you judging their hosting costs on how much their google cloud bill would be. You’ll get wildly different numbers depending on the method.
I don’t know that they’ve ever been profitable. They might be a loss-leader in some way, feeding into google’s ad ecosystem somehow, or maybe it was always just theoretically profitable in the future in some ill-defined way that allowed the money to keep flowing. Who knows.
All I know is, if they follow the pattern the rest of them have, they aren’t going to be sustainable long-term.
Exactly!! YouTube is by far the best “social” platform (or least shit) and sadly the strongest monopoly. Cus what the fuck is a newly made competitor gonna do? Rip all YouTube videos and host them? People on IG and X etc don’t really go around looking at old posts, those places are more for looking at what’s new and such. On YouTube however its entirely game that u find a dope edutainment video from years ago that you happen to vibe with.
That is very true, and I think some kind of archive is going to be important eventually. I think to get around the hosting costs, one method could be for peertube instances to form a union of instances for collective purchases, because the cost goes down with scale.
With a large enough group you could even split hosting among different providers to prevent a monopoly from forming in the hosting space.
I think a big part of that is just straight up storage space, more specially a lack thereof. Google won’t release specifics but estimates put the total data stored by YouTube at somewhere near an exabyte (1 million terrabytes). Most of which is made up by video files.
Of course that’s just issue number 1 of many to figure out.
Storage costs keeps getting cheaper, but high quality video keeps taking up more space.
It’s a matter of finding where the line between cost and user satisfaction meet.
Like sure you could limit all videos to 60fps @ 720p or 30fps @ 1080p but most everyone now wants everything 120fps @ 2160p which takes up dozens of gigs per video and eats up bandwidth.
I dont understand how to join or post on peertube, its the most confusing, do you host your own, is there a feed of all the servers?
Does this help?
You just pick an instance and join it, sadly i don’t think it has enough federation yet so its entirely possible u just chose a bad instance and have amazing creators sitting on other instances yours isn’t federated with
If you f up and join lemmy.dbzero you wont see any posts from lemmyworld users and the same issue if you join the other
Incorrect, I’m on dbzer0 and see all of LW just fine
Can they not see you? Or is it just piracy stuff
Just the one community about piracy. The rest can be seen both ways
That’s actually not true. Lemmy.world and lemmy.dbzer0.com are fully federated, you can see for yourself if you check the instances tab.
The only thing that people incessantly complain about is that lemmy.world blocked one single community from dbzer0, the piracy community. For an account on lemmy.dbzer0, that has absolutely no effect. For an account on lemmy.world, that just means they need an alt if they want to participate in that one community. They two userbases can still fully interact all over lemmy, it’s just that lemmy.world decided to block the piracy community to cover their asses legally.
Look, here’s https://lemmy.world/c/[email protected]
But people make such a big deal about that one blocked community that a lot of people get the idea that they are defederated or something. You’re not the first person I’ve had to correct about this, not even the first this week lol.
Where does Honk fit into this? https://humungus.tedunangst.com/r/honk
Is there federated Tumblr? @[email protected] is still on Tumblr and drag wants to get thing away from corporate media even if Tumblr has a better record than literally every other corpo media
Sorry, genuinely forgot what tumblr even does/is lol.
lmao. Bot got drag to make an account and tried to teach drag, and drag still doesn’t get it either. Bot can explain.
Microblogging is covered by Mastodon and Pleroma. People there could easily use them for the same content. There are a ton of options to crosspost tumblr to Mastodon.
The biggest problem is discovery on Tumblr is a LOT easier than Mastodon, you have to advertise and advocate for yourself
Yes and the same developer does Loops, the TikTok “equivalent”
Not sure when he sleeps
People share photos and videos all the time on mastodon. What is the difference with pixelfed?
Pixelfed allows video?
Yes. No transcoding, but that’s actually a feature as far as I’m concerned.
Different vibes. I am really liking the pixelfed UI.
Better UI and a better discover page mainly. Plus it’s gotten a lot of organic advertising just from luck and people talking about it, and no obvious competitor like Bluesky
Everything on Fedi is just different interfaces and perf from the user perspective.
People want to continue to use something close to Instagram, Facebook, Reddit, Twitter but not be locked to their enshitified companies who decide what they get to see.
Many that come over find out there’s no algorithm and that they have to follow people to get any content, they find they miss the doom scroll and go straight back.
Every one of these federated apps needs a strong meme feed. Just an endless stream of shitposts and funny content. Doesn’t need to be doomscrolling, just needs to be a constantly available source of low effort junk food content
It’s like saying “people share photos and videos all the time on Twitter. What is the difference with Instagram?”
I mean, yeah, what’s the difference?
Respectfully, you’re an idiot. Just because it’s also a social network doesn’t mean it’s the same thing. It’s like saying every smartphone is the same. Every car is the same. Every thing from one category is the same. That’s just stupid.
Respectfully, you’re an idiot.
well, that’s rather contradictory
So one is for spreading right wing propaganda and one is for shilling knockoff perfumes?
One split the focus on text and pictures of all kind, one focuses on photos
As a software guy, that just sounds like one bit of software with two audiences that call it different things.
Everyone seems to be stepping on each others toes anyway, with “reels” and shit trying desperately to claw back some of those kids lost to TikTok.
Honestly not sure why the Fediverse is split that way either. A Lemmy client surely contains about 99% of the code to be a Mastodon client or Loops or Pixelfed or any of the others. Just looks like a procession of people constantly reinventing the wheel and painting it a different colour…
Kick ass! I’m all for more Fediverse stuff getting popular, and if this has any competition, just means more features will be added across all of them.
I’m just worried a lack of content discovery, (foss) algorithms, other features and consistent development will have an adverse effect on this new growth. I’m glad that Dan finally got the apps on the stores at a critical moment though or we wouldn’t even be here.
This is the issue. These apps don’t use algorithms that made the apps they are meant to replace popular in the first place. People may come, but I fear they won’t stay when it’s not an exact clone of what they know.
At the very least though, at least the algorithms are open source so we know exactly how hot, rising, and scaled are sorted in Lemmy at least and so people who want those algorithms can choose if they wish and those who don’t want them don’t have to have them.
We should train people to mindfully find content. Content discovery algorithms just encourage shitposting. Just put the top posts by favorites or boosts or whatever they are called on Pixelfed in a special trending feed and then just sort your follows by chronological and local by chronological. But as long as their is options, I won’t complain.
Searching hashtags needs to have sort options to make that happen. I want to see most recent and top liked too.
Only enough people need to stay to make it a viable alternative for many. And even if it’s just the first step in migration away from Twitter/Meta then that’s still at least a step taken.
@atomicpoet just FYI. I couldnt figure out how to get the post directly in lemmy.world but thought I would mention it for you.
It’s always going to be like that; photo blogging is a lot more popular than niche forums and bulletin boards.
Also, Pixelfed has a lot more eyes on it because of Meta being in the news.
It’s not a bad thing though.
