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  • I don’t feel George Monbiot put his case well. If we take Australia as the example, without the incremental changes we’ve individually already made its hard to believe that the bigger things we are actually doing now would be as uncontroversial as they are.

    I don’t agree, your argument is there “is bigger things we’re doing now”. I don’t agree with that premises at all, we’re not doing bigger things… at all. What were doing is green washing within the orthodox neo liberal order. Which I think is George’s point.

    Aa an example , aircraft bookings have increased some 20% from last year, we need aircraft bookings to be zero. We need private cars being banned, we’ll need the removal of national boundaries or suffer the rise in violence and subsequent enviomental damage that’s caused as billions flee the tropical zone. They will flee becase they must.

    Another example, The Olympics should be banned and yet we’re inviting 10s of thousands of people to Australia in 2034. What we’re doing it banning straws at the events and putting a recycle logo on a cup instead.

    We’re expanding Melbourne, Hobart & Brisbane aiports and have built a new one in Sydney, they should all be closed. A new football stadium in Hobart is a laughable mockery in the face of a climate emergency.

    Solutions to Climate Change and the enviomental crisis require a complete change to the social, political and economic way we live upon the Earth, what we’re doing is rearranging the deck chairs.

    We need to ban cars and flying but what we’re doing is banning plastic bags and chopping down forests to make paper bags.

    All too much to expect ? Well, that’s the point and why we’re not doing anything, beside incremental tokeism and why it will only get worse.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/may/07/un-expert-human-rights-climate-crisis-economy

    Outgoing special rapporteur David Boyd says ‘there’s something wrong with our brains that we can’t understand how grave this is’





  • Cop31 is a chance to redefine ourselves from climate laggard to global leade

    No it isn’t, such foolish, ney stupid thinking.

    The entire COP process has been co-opted by fossil fuel interests and is now irrelevant , we’re a massive exporter of fossil fuels and have zero interest in moving foward to zero emissons, voters will never tolerate not being able to fly and told they can’t drive cars, stop owing meat eating pets etc

    If we wanted to be “leaders” we’d not be holding the Olympics in Australia, not be spending billions expanding Brisbane, Melbourne and Hobart airports, we’d have abandoned all new road projects and only be building PT and AT infrastructure and be closing coal mines and gas extraction and redoing society for low energy dependence, while starting managed abandonment of coastlines and Northern Australia.

    Just stick to denial and useless tokenism with a few solar panels and ecars like other developed countries and stop with the hypocrisy.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/may/07/un-expert-human-rights-climate-crisis-economy

    Boyd said: “There’s no place in the climate negotiations for fossil-fuel companies. There is no place in the plastic negotiations for plastic manufacturers. It just absolutely boggles my mind that anybody thinks they have a legitimate seat at the table.

    “It has driven me crazy in the past six years that governments are just oblivious to history. We know that the tobacco industry lied through their teeth for decades. The lead industry did the same. The asbestos industry did the same. The plastics industry has done the same. The pesticide industry has done the same.”