I noticed a few people recently signing up for Friendica because of the changes.
Nope, my fb friends never leave.
Let’s hope so.
META is becoming more based each day it seems.
Calling a mega corp"based" is straight clown behaviour…
How old is u, boy?
I’m 24. I didn’t say META is based. I said it’s becoming MORE based. For example: If META was only 10% based and now it became 20% based - it’s still not based, but it became more based. Hope this better explains my perspective.
What does “based” mean to you?
Urban dictionary sums it up really well IMO.
A word used when you agree with something; or when you want to recognize someone for being themselves, i.e. courageous and unique or not caring what others think. Especially common in online political slang.
For example:
META is based for open sourcing their LLM weights.
Even if we assume that Meta’s policy of loosening up grey zone speech as step in the right direction, it still doesn’t make it “more based”
Meta is a mega corpo whatever they do is always fucking plebs over and this is no exception, make no mistake.
Up until now they censored speech and I guess I were big mad, others said meta is an “ally”
Facebook then flipped the script, so now he is an ally to “you”
This a polarization divide and conquer tactic and falling for it ain’t based.
It’s kind of obvious that Zucc is doing this to be on the “winning side” (Elon’s side). I don’t think this has anything to do with “divide and conquer”.
Keep licking, they still won’t let you into their club.
HUH? Why would I want them to let me into their club and what does it even mean for someone to “get into their club”?
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Huh, a friendica post in the wild on the Lemmy.world front page. Cool!
But if its Activity Pub then why doesn’t it open in my app? I have to click it and open in an external web browser
Well, it’s posted here as a link, so I guess it’s not here via federation.
Also I think different fedi apps support different AP content types, so possible that Lemmy can’t display it?
You will see it more ;)
I wish, but I doubt it will be.
Something eventually will be. Meta will not last forever.
This one? Nah, probably not. Meta is undoubtedly going to censor, suppress, hide, and deprioritize posts about this. But someday it will.
What makes you believe Friendica won’t surpass Facebook?
I’m not answering that question. I’m answering whether this is the movement that dethrones it.
ls #HelloQuitMeta the Next Viral Movement?
Probably not.
I do not think decentralized social media will ever grab the masses. It can be confusing, which server do I join? Why that one vs this one?
Sounds more like we would go back to forums.
I think “forums” is what Lemmy kinda shoulda been. I’ve had people argue against me at this point, but…
lemmy.nsfw and the other couple of porn instances are the only ones that are focused by topic. Everybody else tries to be a general purpose instance, which results in that “Which instance do I pick? Will it matter being on sh.itjust.works or lemmy.world?” issue and the “there are currently 94 communities with the name Linux, 20 with more than 250 subscribers and 12 that have seen some kind of activity in the last month” issues.
Lemmy could be used like a good old forum engine. Create an instance around a particular branch of discussion, but now they’re federated.
I am down. I miss forums (as long as it is not tapatalk.)
Initially no real reason. Eventually you discover ones with administrators you vibe with and communities and users you like. But till then, maybe server capacity?
I get that, you get that, but the masses will not understand that.
Do they need to? How did people decide on MSN vs AIM vs ICQ? Google vs Yahoo? Ventrillo or Team speak? Skype vs Zoom vs Discord. They will go where their friends are primarily. And what suits their needs generally. Federation isn’t anything truly new. The massive centralized servers were. The fediverse is a return to form. Only better. Be on the service and server that suit you. No missing out.
I liked yahooIM and AIM, but I also had MSN Messanger.
I liked YIMs buzz feature. Imagine no matter what you’re doing, the audio mutes for a brief second, you hear a loud doorbell, and your whole screen, not just yahooIM, YOU COULD EVEN HAVE THE WINDOW MINIMIZED!!! Your whole screen would shake.
It was very intrusive. I loved it.
It can be confusing, which server do I join? Why that one vs this one?
Good grief, this argument seriously makes me want to pull my hair out…
“Which [email] server do I join? Why that one vs this one?”
At first, the internet was for nerds only and not “for the masses”. Then corporations realized there was a lot of money to be made, and they forced user-friendliness on it. And then the masses came.
Don’t worry, in two decades we’ll have Fediverse 3.0 which will just be a balkanized assortment of sites that don’t communicate with each other and are worth trillions, all owned by people who bafflingly support President Kid Rock.
Man, people got used to having the whole internet in their pocket from barely knowing it existed in like 15 years. There are already cultural metaphors for federation. People will grok that shit in no time when they need to. But it will take the network effect forcing them to learn it that will get people over the hill.
Because I have never even heard of friendica
I haven’t heard of Lemmy until the api changes.
And Reddit is still in no danger of being overtaken by Lemmy.
I beg to differ as the amount of registered users is steadily increasing, the instance servers are much more stable and the third-party apps have added tons of features.
You must be looking at different numbers than me because Lemmy has nowhere near the number of members as Reddit and it’s not even close.
Yahoo just gradually died as people started slowly abandoning it.
The same can happen to Facebook, but it won’t die with a bang.
This.
What eventually kills these platforms is “death by thousand cuts”. Enshitification, controversies, legal problems will alienate users bit by bit. Competing services will then make some people visit less and less until they stop coming at all.
These platforms are competing for peoples attention/time which is finite resource.
Unless you’re myspace. Myspace was great, until facebook just suddenly existed, and took over. Felt like it went from never hearing of facebook in 2006, to 2007 myspace is basically dead.
MySpace was sold to News Corp for $580 million dollars. Then they purged everyone’s accounts, all their blogs, posts, pictures, everything. Talk about not knowing what they bought. Serious WTF. Users could submit a form and get some but not all of their profile back. One year later MySpace was worth an estimated $35 million. It was the worst tech acquisition until Twitter. This all coincided with Facebook opening up to the public and becoming more popular. So it’s not exactly that MySpace just collapsed, Rupert Murdoch killed it.
It was the worst tech acquisition until Twitter.
To be fair to the fucking muskrat, he paid 44 billion dollars to have the loudest voice in the world. By chance, he also got a lot of power in US politics. Sure, he’s killing twitter in the process, but he can probably recoup the money through other means.
But in addition to what happened to Yahoo, Meta’s platforms also use the network effect to keep users. Once the tide turns and the network effect is stronger elsewhere the userbase may quickly evaporate, like what happened to MySpace.
That’s already happening. Posts from my friends are seldom, and progressively less meaningful. Most are just shares of some dumbass sponsored content. Conversation is dead. But this is a big one, Facebook has AI users now that can keep up the appearance of a thriving site indefinitely, duping advertisers out of billions.
I’m dubious about that last one.
Advertisers have ways of measuring which ads are effective. I’m most familiar with how it works on Youtube, click on a link in a bio or use offer code AGGRAVATED to get 10% off your first purchase, and they can identify which creator they’re sponsoring generated that sale. Part of the point of targeted advertising is avoid spending money to advertise to incompatible audiences.
“Hey look, Facebook has 4 billion users!” “Great. Here, we represent McDonald’s, users who click this link will get coupons for combo meals. Run it in the United States.” soon “The McDonald’s ad was clicked on 94 billion times, yet the coupons from this campaign were redeemed in restaurants a total of 164 times nationwide. Can you explain to me how you achieved complete and total failure to sell cheap cheeseburgers to Americans?” “Yes I can, see, practically none of our active user accounts are owned or operated by organisms.”
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I genuinely don’t understand the business model they’re going for here. Which means one of three things: 1. Meta knows something I don’t know and this is going to work spectacularly, 2. It’s one of those engineering decisions made by MBAs moments and it’s going to come crashing down, or 3. it’s an Enron moment and within 18 months the name of the crime they’re committing is going to suddenly become a household phrase.
Honestly, with the power these companies have now, it could realistically be all 3 of your options, and they would still profit immensely and face no accountability.
why prefix the hash tag with Hello? Isn’t #QuitMeta better?
If Twitter hasn’t had a mass exodus I’m not holding it hope for any other social media. The fact of the matter is the majority of the public just don’t care.
Apparently a bunch of blue checks got really pissed about, of all things, Elon faking his Path of Exile 2 cred. I’m annoyed that that’s what it took for some people to finally realize he’s a piece of shit, but you know what, doing the right thing for a stupid reason is still doing the right thing. Regardless who knows if it’ll result in any large number of people leaving. All I know is that it blew up on Reddit, according to this news here which I recommend you watch:
I mean it kinda has. It wasn’t an insta-kill but users have dropped dramatically and it’s still dropping
https://www.demandsage.com/twitter-statistics/
Rebranded as “X” in July 2023 under Elon Musk’s leadership, the platform saw a 15% drop in monthly active users soon after. Despite this, with 611 million monthly active users…
“X” is doing just fine.
I wonder how many of those are bots or paid trolls
I’m still seeing Twitter posts on Lemmy frequently. It doesn’t matter if they’re bots or paid, the site is still being used and posts are still being passed around.
Depends on who is leaving, I’d say. The biggest draw to Twitter, from my outside perspective anyway, is news. Headlines, sure, but especially live, on the ground coverage.
If news orgs quit X, that’ll be a big blow. Some left already, but I can’t remember who it was off the top of my head.
But if breaking news, like protesters posting updates live, start coming majority from somewhere other than X (most likely Bluesky at this point), that will really signal the beginning of the end for Xs relevancy.
Just my $.02, to be taken with a large grain of salt.
Yes, if that were to happen it would be a big blow. It hasn’t happened despite all the things, so I’m not holding my breath.
Are there still any non-boomers left on Facebook?
Yes, loads. It’s very useful for non-anonymous groups + events.
Not really, but Instagram and WhatsApp are still massive
I’m not really ON facebook. But way too many of my friends use it as a way to send invites to events. I literally just pop in every other week to check notifications and see if anybody invited me to anything. It’s kind of infuriating how no other method makes it so easy to just invite 20 people somewhere.
The fediverse doesn’t have a decent calendar/invite solution does it?
Again? 2019…2013…and however many other “exodus” articles are written. Facebook is still the biggest. Must be a slow news day.
Didn’t happen to Twitter. Didn’t happen to Reddit. Won’t happen to Meta.
Kinda blows my mind that people think that shit is going to happen over night… That’s hundreds of millions of people…
It’s already happened to Facebook. And it’s happening to Twitter. And Reddit. This stuff takes time, but the character and feel of each service has shifted considerably.
The phrase used was not “shifted considerably”, it’s “mass exodus”.
The mass exodus from the Facebook platform has already happened. The others are in progress.
Facebook in some countries is a necessity because it acts like The Everything website. it’s like the WeChat of southeast Asia
Good riddance. Sadly I think it will take another generation before the boomers wake up
I think it will take another generation before the boomers
wake updie.FTFY
Seriously, why can’t they just die already.
Many are, genx is now the conservative generation.
Good thing most of them will be dead by then.
Betteridge’s Law applies here.
Betteridge’s law of headlines is an adage that states: “Any headline that ends in a question mark can be answered by the word no.”
Ha! That’s pretty good, and probably very accurate.
Even if so, they may see that as a plus. Twitter survived the massive cutting / culture change that Elon brought to it (as a gross little shadow of it’s formal self, but the vultures don’t care).
