It’s accelerationist. You and I can openly talk about America’s failures and discuss the disasters objectively. The fascists at the levers of power that run roughshod over the United States government for the last century. Precisely because we actually want to improve things and to help people.

Accelerationist don’t. Or at least they think they do in a warped and twisted way where the only way to do it. Is to destroy the west, to destroy its governments, to injure the people. And then only once everything has collapsed can they build them back up into a system. Which objectively has been shown to be no better than the system they currently have. But in their eyes would magically somehow be better.

It’s manic, cultish Behavior. As an actual leftist in a red State I definitely don’t see that type around here. But I’m sure in more liberal areas they exist. Really though more than anything it’s just a demonstration that even those of us on the left are acutely vulnerable to propaganda and radicalization as well as being indoctrinated into cults.

From the founding of the ideology through at least the first 100 years it kind of did. I think the basic fact that the man who coined the phrase and founded the ideology. Fought against the kind of people who pretend to be libertarian today. He literally participated in the French revolution. And we have economic liberals today making up thought terminating cliches and tripe like the non-aggression principle to protect wealthy thieves. Calling themselves right wing Libertarians it’s a joke.

Absolutely. Though to be fair most people who call themselves Libertarians aren’t regardless.

There was a whole family named after a cheese. The Munsters.

Well, they claim that, but more than they are anything else. They are strictly anti-west. And criticizing something that isn’t the West is pretty much out of their wheelhouse. They don’t have to self-awareness to acknowledge basic realities. And feel that any attempt to criticize Putin, Xi jin ping, or the current Little Kim is always some sort of Western propaganda/psyop.

Reading comprehension, you don’t have it. Bye Felecia.

And your petulant childish behavior is without bounds. Listen I’ve never once questioned your commitment or political alignment. Yes I’ve commented how you behavior is childish. Which it is and that’s one thing. But I’ve never questioned your intent. Just the efficacy of it. And you’ve proven over and over again by impuning upon my commitment calling myself and others no true lefty. Because we disagree with you. You could not be displaying anymore petulant childish behavior.

Even your last response here was completely disingenuous purposely missing the point. Yes they f***** themselves over with trump. But on the regular they actually get things accomplished. Whereas people like yourself who constantly harp on others, denying their identities. Are the exact reason why people in general don’t take the left very seriously and why the left as a group struggles to get anything accomplished. Have fun with your Purity tests.

LOL such bad reasoning. I’m not fond of much of what they’ve done but I’ll give them this much they’ve actually accomplished things where people with your mentality haven’t. Good luck with that:-)

If you think having strategy makes you a moderate. That’s a you problem. And one I’m glad not to have. Everyone needs strategy if they want to get something accomplished. And you’ll learn that someday.

Lol, I’m a Dejacque Libertarian/anarchist. They aren’t going to listen to me either. Do you are more than welcome to keep proving my points. And acting the victim pretending that it’s all because you’re somehow so much more left than anyone else LOL. That sort of rhetoric is only a victim of itself.

I’m not defending them. I criticize them often. What I am doing, is commenting on your childish behavior.

I know why young people don’t vote. Especially those that have been radicalized like yourself. With no strategic/critical thinking skills. Ain’t none of em good.

And that’s why they aren’t voting for it. No one is proving your point. And no it’s not just Democrats. Whatever conspiracy pit you frequent, you need to get out.

Because there wasn’t support for it. Sure it has pretty broad public support. But our elected officials don’t. It’s not a bullshit excuse. It sucks but it’s true. And acting like a child certainly won’t fix it.

It’s not hypocrisy. Republicans first tried to overthrow the government in the 1930s. They’ve aimed at ending democracy for a century at least. The reason Trump can do it has nothing to do with presidential powers. And everything to do with fascists in Congress. Who would support it.

That you think it’s some sort of failing of Democrats or Biden. Just speaks to a completed lack of understanding, and no desire to engage with reality. That’s why you’ll be down voted.

Yes that’s the guy! If anyone hasn’t seen the video. Even if you generally hate debates. Even if you generally can’t stand to hear republicans. It’s absolutely riveting. I don’t think most people have actually seen what a real debate looks like. And that’s by design. If they were all like that. I think things would be a damn sight better. They’re also used to being pampered, going overtime, and talking over each other. He just cuts them the fuck off as it should be. In the middle of trying to answer questions other than the ones he asked.

I would pay good money if CNN brought in that local news anchor and debate moderator from colorado. My man was fucking savage and to the point. No Nonsense hardcore moderator. I would make a point to watch the base if they were moderated by someone like him. Bobo and all the other candidates looked like deer in the Headlights. Fucking clowns. Just as they should. As long as he did it to Democrats as well when they deserved it I’m completely on board.

Their law definitely thumps. And off the top of my head it’s the only song of there’s I really remember using much of a guitar sound at all. But breathe, Invaders must die, or take me to the hospital also thump pretty hard as well.

Shame about Keith. The prodigy was fire back in the early 90s. Charlie, poison, voodoo people and of course Keith’s firestarter. Last album or two hasn’t hit me the same. But that’s probably the 30 years on my part. Not in my 20s or in college anymore.

It boggles the mind doesn’t it? The left tells them what behavior is unacceptable. So they ask how they’re supposed to behave. But the left already told them what was unacceptable. Then they get upset when the people who told them how to behave react to negatively to them acting ignorant.

If men really need to be told how to behave at all. There’s no hope for men’s liberation. If you don’t know what patriarchy and misogyny is. You shouldn’t be taking part in any debates activism or discourse on the subject. At least not until you’ve gone and educated yourself.

And to those who really don’t know or would actually like to understand. Asking how you’re supposed to behave is the wrong way to go about it. You can behave however you like as long as you don’t act misogynist and patriarchal. Don’t imply someone must be a certain way or can’t do a certain thing because of who they are. For example I think most guys would get a little upset if someone assumed that they were an ignorant caveman incapable of learning.

If you really have to ask. The best way to ask is to be genuine. To tell anyone acting offended that you’re aware some of the behaviors Etc that you’ve been raised with are problematic. And that you are doing your best to understand when they are and learn to not do that. And then ask the person to help you understand what Behavior it was that upset them. You’ll have infinitely more success and much better answers that way. Just by being sincere.

Because money is speech. Those with money are the loudest. Nothing more, nothing less. Running for office is unaffordable to the average person. By Design. The system could work. If campaigns were only publicly funded.