How many of the people pearl clutching didn’t even notice we just overthrew Syria?
But I guess white western countries are supposed to be off limits.
Hmm, let’s see, one country was ruled by a murderous dictator using chemical weapons against his own people and crushing dissidents to a pulp in secret prisons. The other is a mature, functioning democracy with rule of law and a free press.
Yes, yes, I can see how you think that’s exactly the same.
The chemical weapons claim has debunked many times since the claim was made by intelligence orgs, and the white helmets exposed as a western regime change operation.
Which country is the “mature, functioning democracy with rule of law and free press”? Would that be the UK, which is crushing pro-Palestine protestors, arresting journalists for criticism of Israel, arming genocide, and participating in CIA torture black sites? The country that has openly declared it will defy ICC arrest warrants?
Yes, as I said, it’s exactly the same. I’m really glad you’re here to make it so plain to everyone.
The country that has openly declared it will defy ICC arrest warrants?
You need to stop listening to the British right, that never happened. The conservatives threatened it and then they got removed from office and now it’s not a thing anymore.
Let me know when Starmer starts supporting the arrest warrant enforcement.
Not that it makes any difference because the government don’t decide policy like that it would be the police that would arrest him should the impossible occur and he actually turn up in the UK
Also let me know when you can be bothered to actually put forward an article from a non-biased source. They’re all forces out there that want to completely discredit the left-wing government and while they are absolutely not been the best they could be they’re an infinite amount better than the utter corrupt nightmare that was the conservative party.
Hold up. You think the local cops are acting on ICC arrest warrants?! LoL.
Yes that’s actually what the government was saying the entire time it was just idiots were construing something else from that.
I don’t know what you think “local cops” are but there is such a thing as Interpol remember. There is a standing instruction to arrest them if for some reason they ever came here. You don’t think the police consult the government do you?
I genuinely can’t believe what is happening. What timeline are we living in?
Maybe it’s time we designated Musk as a terrorist?
I genuinely can’t believe what is happening
Then you should pay more attention to history…
And I don’t mean that as an insult, all this shit is reruns of shit we’ve already been thru. WW2 had a large push by wealthy American businessmen to not just abstain from the war, but they advocated for joining the Axis back then.
Capitalism and fascism go hand in hand, the ultra wealthy will always want fascism because fascist leaders love bomb them to get their wealth and power behind the movement.
We all need to understand this shit so we can understand what worked last time and why it didn’t work permanently
Fascism cannot exist without capitalism. Capital is what supports and strengthens fascism - the idea that business is more important than the people. This sounds like how the world has always been but it wasn’t until the 60s, at least in the US, when the business leaders wanted to stop unions, make more money, stop the possibilities of environmentalists from hurting profits, etc. The pushback from the people in the 60s spawned the Civil Rights and threatened to derail the business first approach America had gotten used to from after the Depression. The war years gave too much money and power to too few people and things like the Business Plot simmered under the surface of our grandparents’ generation. Two generations of propaganda that made social and community based governing sound villainous has brought us to a full on fascist revolution slow burning through wealthy democracies.
There’s a lot of details in there that are wrong, but I’ll touch on the part that’s UK relevant since this is a UK sub:
The pushback from the people in the 60s spawned the Civil Rights and threatened to derail the business first approach America had gotten used to from after the Depression. The war years gave too much money and power to too few peopl
The big driver of the civil rights movement in America was the treatment of Black soldiers in WW2, the English and especially the French didn’t give a fuck what color an American soldier was, they just cared they were killing Nazis.
For a Black man from the American South in the 1940s, the tiniest but of basic human decency was unknown from a white person. But they quickly got used to the idea that all men were born equal, regardless of the color of their skin.
So when they came back, they refused to go back to being treated worse for the color of their skin.
This might be the best thing I’ve read from you yet, cheers
Only this time its: Whoops! All Axis!
And my Axis
Don’t we have any Axisn’t left? :(
Surely there’s only troll bots and right wing psychopaths left on twitter? I’m surprised it’s not 100% yes
If in the next decade Ruzzia and America form an AXIS like alliance to take over more territory I won’t be surprised.
Meanwhile he’s fine with Putin, even has chats over the phone with him.
…never seen him tweet anything vad about gim infact.
Why would he talk bad about one of the few people in the world that’s richer than he is?
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Donkey!
US here, we need to worry about our own government right now, and many of us wish Musk would drive his own Cyber truck to test dummy it’s ‘features’ personally. As a US citizen I am sorry the oligarchy is a pain for you as well.
It’ll be worse for you guys though. Trade sanctions cut both ways and the thing is the UK has the rest of the world to trade from, but the US will impose sanctions on everyone and shoot themselves in the foot.
Maybe willingly telling the guy steamrolling towards the 1984 timeline exactly who is against him isn’t the best idea?
Can we turn all the lights off and pretend nobody’s home when they come knocking? We’ll definitely hear them coming.
Non American , and non brit here. Why is this waste of energy so interested in the UK and Europe now ? I know there will be plenty of cynical takes which I will probably endorse however I’m interested in what his actual motivation might be. Does he just want parties in power in the given country that he has influence over for the sake of legislative advantage for his businesses? Or is it trollconomics for sake of driving signups to his failing social network I forget the name of?
Trump could be soliciting bribes by threatening people as well, but musk is the one giving him directions.
“Oh yeah, Canada will pay up just yell some shit about invading.”
it’s all a big ploy to give the US bargaining chips when negotiating with the UK for trade agreements.
“well we’re going to tariff the shit out of you unless we can sell chlorine washed chickens in your country”
“oh also fuck your publicly owned railways and roads, you’ll sell them to us at a discount or you’ll be sorry.”
“by the way we’re still going to endorse and fund far right parties and destabilise your democracy - that’s just what allies do, right?”
Publicly owned railway? Hold on there Thatcher!
The labour gov is pretty much planning to nationalise rail again.
All contracts as they expire will be replaced with co ops or a new nationalised company. By 2027 apparently.
So yep public owned rail again.
Not rolling stock, though.
The current leeches don’t even own the trains.
True.
But as much as I hated privatisation.
If owning the trains was required. Then sort term contracts would be impossible.
Making what labour is doing now, as expensive as the more right wing keep falsely claiming.
So we sorta have some gratitude that the tories never required the same companies to own the rolling stock as run it. But instead sold it to banks requiring them to rent it.
Musk is under Putin’s thumb and Britain is one of the leading supporters of Ukraine.
Yep also China has a hold on musk economically. And supports Russia.
Russia has managed to gain a hold on the US again. (Reminding folks about his illegal holding of Ukraine funds last time)
The UK is by far the next most vocal supporter.
He wants to be king of the world, it’s as simple as that. He already has the most money (not that that’ll stop him from wanting more), now he just needs to have the most power, and actively supporting the rise of fascism around the world (which he has been doing for long before he let his mask start to slip and now completely come off) is his way of getting it.
The fact that you think he bought twitter, or is running it the way he is as some sort of troll, rather than a very real, and very effective, way of manipulating the public as well as politics as a whole, shows how well it works.
They’re welcome to Luton, to be honest.
If he sees Bradford he’ll probably have an aneurysm.
Oi! That’s the UK City of Culture 2025 you’re talking about!
“Even reading the local newspaper, some of the headlines can be very upbeat, and beneath it are just loads of comments that, ‘This is a disaster, it’ll just never work, Bradford is doomed’.”
Why do I feel like we’re about to do a whole Third Reich thing?
History doesn’t repeat but it does rhyme.
This one will be the Fourth Reich.
I can’t believe Elon musk managed to destroy twitter so much they lead to four separate twitter’s for each political quadrant!
Twitter for the right, Twitter for the left, Twitter for the libertarian, Twitter for Linux users
It’s twitter for the right, Lemmy for the left, bluesky for the libertarians and Linux users have joined either us, or gone back to trusty bulletin boards
Source: no idea
What he wants to do, is fuck the fuck off.
Brit here. What a complete wankpuffin. He should focus on liberating himself from his own stupidity.
“wankpuffin” going to have to use that one.
I mean…they started it…
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