• AWittyUsername@lemmy.world
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    Pro-lifers don’t care.

    All they care about is the fact that the white population will decrease as no one can afford/wants children, so the best way to remedy that is to force them to.

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          …Are you being purposely obtuse?

          Do you think an unwanted pregnancy doesn’t affect the biological father’s life in any way?

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            Well of course it does. But its statistically significant that most abortions happen as a result of the potential babydaddy doing a blow-n-go and leaving the female with a hard decision. That was my point.

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              statistically significant that most abortions happen as a result of the potential babydaddy doing a blow-n-go and leaving the female with a hard decision

              what? I’m not even going to bother asking for a source. That is incorrect.

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              But its statistically significant that most abortions happen as a result of the potential babydaddy doing a blow-n-go and leaving the female with a hard decision

              Source: this information came to you in a dream you had once

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        It’s probably due to the fact that the majority of Chile bearing people are womem Wouldnt want to haphazardly sum up many groups of people with one word but I would See the viewpoint

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    Birth control is nothing more than a form of medical technology. People against birth control and abortion(also medical technology) are Medical Luddites.

    They must be afraid of losing their jobs at crisis pregnancy centers, or be afraid they won’t be allowed to shame young single mothers anymore.

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      Either they are afraid of losing jobs, or afraid of not having hot single moms in their area. Make a pick

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        The simpler the ‘fact’, the more likely it is to be an oversimplification and largely untrue.

        In this example, you have to overlook any time someone became pregnant without consent. They never chose it to begin with, so blaming them for “not taking responsibility” for something they never wanted is oversimplifying a complicated subject to the point of falsehood.

        It’s also especially funny how often this argument comes from people who, in the same breath, will talk about their savior being “of virgin birth”. You can’t argue that chastity works for everyone when it didn’t work for Mary.

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          Who becomes pregnant without consent outside of rape victims (which is an entirely low population compared to those with abort for reasons outside of that)? If you have sex voluntarily, you consent to the possibility of pregnancy. So yes, it IS very simple.

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        Shit happens. Condoms break and birth control fails. Let people make their own decisions instead of imposing your beliefs on them just to feel morally superior

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            Right, so if somebody gets pregnant and doesn’t want to be, they can take responsibility and get an abortion, and you can stay they hell out of their business. Problem solved.

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              Or not get pregnant. Everyone has a hand, but no one wants to use it.

              I got a wave of Kamala activity in the past hour. Must be California coming home from protesting.

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                Everyone has a hand, but no one wants to use it.

                Using that hand to dial a phone to schedule an appointment to get an abortion counts as not wanting to use it? I took responsibility when I paid for the abortion, like a gentleman should.

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          It’s a percentage based precaution (efficacy). Even at 99%, it’s not perfect. You take that 1% risk, as a responsible adult.

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        Money says the way you take responsibility is by being an emotionally retarded 40-yo virgin. Fuck me man, just say it out loud. “Females won’t touch me.”

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      There are people in committed relationships that don’t “sleep around” and also don’t want to get pregnant.

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      Or, maybe, don’t impose your beliefs on women and let them make their own decisions with their body

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      What a strange way to announce to the world that you’re so pathetic a hooman female won’t even throw you a pity fuck.

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    Doesn’t not having sex do that a little better tho? Like i totally get the point, but also, having sex gives chance of baby right? So, don’t do it unless you ready? Maybe I’m wrong.

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      I’ve been told by multiple people that if men do not have sex they become fascists.

      So, no, not having sex is apparently not an option.

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      Sex is a basic human need. Having a child isn’t. You need to know you are compatible with your partner sexually or it will lead to tons of strife in a relationship. So not having sex unless you are asexual or a version of it isn’t an option.

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          Humans also do not die when they are shackled and locked in a dark room for years or decades, as long as you feed them. How is you argument sounding now?

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                There are people who don’t choose but still are still fine.

                If what you’re saying is true Tom Hanks would have died of lack of sex on that island.

                Or I’d have died in the six years between going through puberty and having sex. Or the five years later on when I didn’t have sex but wanted to.

                “People need sex” is borderline incel shit.

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      No, you’re not “maybe wrong”. You’re absolutely and completely wrong seen as abstinence only programs have been shown over and over again to be ineffective. It’s a sad attempt at policing people’s desire for sex

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      Logically, yes. But humans aren’t purely logical. They’re gonna have sex without access to birth control, even if they don’t want a kid. Not all of them, but a lot of them. So why not just let them have both control?

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      People fuck for various reasons. Taking away people’s access to contraception doesn’t stop that, it merely makes it more likely they’ll have kids.

      Abstinence only programs have shown themselves again and again to just produce teen pregnancies and STDs. Contraception, generally, is the best way to keep yourself from producing a child and the people who are against it tend to be the type of people who want the state to get into your bedroom.

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      You have the same worldview and understanding of human sexuality of an 8 year old.

      Either your ridiculously naive or just straight up an idiot. Possibly both.

      Jesus fucking Christ. I’ve never read anything so dumb on the internet. And I saw Trump get elected. Twice.

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      There are only two reasons any post-pubescent human isn’t having sex:

      • They can’t find anyone to fuck them.

      • They’re legitimately asexual. (A rare thing. And no lemmy, just because you’re not getting laid doesn’t make you “asexual”.)

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      They want having children to be a woman’s punishment for unapproved sex, and they want the kid (who had zero responsibility for creating that situation) to suffer through it along with her, with zero help so it’s all as unpleasant as possible, cuz apparently that makes Baby Jesus smile. Fucking lunatics.

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        At its core it’s about population control. As the birth rate is falling capitalism needs bodies to keep the cogs turning.

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      They want you to have children, and they want you to do it before you’re ready. They want you to be barely surviving so you can’t afford to switch jobs or take time off. They want you too powerless to have any leverage over your owner employer.