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The Picard Maneuver@lemmy.world to hmmm@lemmy.world · 1 year ago

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The Picard Maneuver@lemmy.world to hmmm@lemmy.world · 1 year ago
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  • Illuminostro@lemmy.world
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    No duct tape. 2/10. Would not trust.

    • GreenKnight23@lemmy.world
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      in fairness, they did slap the roof and said “yehp, that’s not going anywhere.”

      we’re not entirely sure of when the incantation was first made, but the magic behind it is still juuuust strong enough to do the trick.

      • Illuminostro@lemmy.world
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        Fair enough.

  • 🇰 🌀 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 🇮 🏆@yiffit.net
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    That ain’t going anywhere.

    • Maggoty@lemmy.world
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      1 year ago

      At least until Milton casually tosses a tree at it.

      • Drunemeton@lemmy.world
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        I appreciate your optimism by using the singular…

        • Maggoty@lemmy.world
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          I saw the documentary once. The order is Tree, Cow, Tractor, and finally another House.

          • Blaster M@lemmy.world
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            You forgot fuel truck

            • Maggoty@lemmy.world
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              Dang it. I always forget one.

              • Drunemeton@lemmy.world
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                Ha! I thought that sounded like a “Twister” movie reference.

                • Maggoty@lemmy.world
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                  Isn’t that the tornado safety video everyone got in high school?

    • solsangraal@lemmy.zip
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      deleted by creator

      • nonailsleft@lemm.ee
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        Concrete blocks 8ft into the ground

    • carbonari_sandwich@lemm.ee
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      • plucks ratchet strap as it’s tightening - “Bb…B, C…Db, D, D, D…Yeah’p. At’ll git er.”
    • shoulderoforion@fedia.io
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      pats the front door with my hands

  • Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works
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    This is extremely stupid. I was happy to see that most people here seem to immediately understand this.

  • konalt@lemmy.world
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    moving house

  • JASN_DE@lemmy.world
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    Optimistic

  • Sarothazrom@lemmy.world
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    Checkmate, nature.

  • De_Narm@lemmy.world
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    It’s not helping, but somehow I like the look of it.

  • drathvedro@lemm.ee
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    Apparently, he’s not the first, and it actually has a chance of working.

    • prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works
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      Jesus Diaz was afraid the roof would blow off. And while the straps are gone, the roof stayed put. His home didn’t sustain damage, either.

      Meanwhile the row of houses a street over that got raked with his modern-day chain shot are ravaged

      • Dkarma@lemmy.world
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        Yeah 6 ratchet straps are really gonna make a differencein damage in a fucking hurricane…smh.

  • Etterra@lemmy.world
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    I wonder how deep those stakes are driven lol

    • 𝕽𝖚𝖆𝖎𝖉𝖍𝖗𝖎𝖌𝖍@midwest.social
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      On the surface, it looks as if they bored decent size holes in the ground and set the anchors in concrete. With a Bobcat, they could easily get 3 meter x 40cm holes; that’s 904kg of concrete at each anchor point, and a lot of friction.

      This isn’t the stupidest idea I’ve ever seen; given that they can’t move their house, and set unlikely to move all their possessions for just a few days, Heck, it’s not a bad idea at all, and looks well-executed.

    • Wolf314159@startrek.website
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      I guarantee it’s not deep enough. Hurricanes of this magnitude topple and uproot trees with massive root structures extending several meters underground. These type of DIY solutions are almost always create more hazard than they solve.

      • KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.comBanned
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        they make houses rated to hurricane winds, i don’t think the trees really care one way or the other. Engineering is often better at withstanding hurricanes than trees.

      • DancingBear@midwest.social
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        More than likely, if the straps are attached to cement blocks, the cement is deeper than the average depth of a tree root.

      • Omgpwnies@lemmy.world
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        Those trees are also giant sails which transfers that much more force from the wind

    • thebigslime@lemmy.world
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      According to the local news interview, 8’ concrete piles.

  • HowManyNimons@lemmy.world
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    did he die

  • Pistcow@lemm.ee
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    Maybe build with ICF ( insulated concrete forms).

  • peanuts4life@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    This is actually not a bad idea

    • MintyFresh@lemmy.world
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      Lol it’s a terrible idea. The wind would get a hold of those and they would essentially grind the roof away.

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        Better a damaged roof still attached to the house than a roof strewn a mile and a half downwind.

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        The surface area on those straps isn’t really going to grab the wind particularly bad. If the metal connection to the anchors actually holds up, it might actually do a little good.

        But if there’s enough lift to pull that roof up without the straps, it’s almost certainly enough to snap the anchor connection, assuming the anchors themselves are deep enough to stay put.

        More likely though is that these just snap and become hurricane whips with barbed ends.

        Edit - or catch debris that snaps them before the wind even has a chance to rip the roof off.

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          The tonnage rating on those straps is insane. With relatively even force between them, they provide way more holding power than the roofs fasteners do. They would also help prevent that initial peel back that just creates a sail inevitably taking the whole roof.

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            Yeah, under ideal conditions. But shrapnel creating cuts, lateral forces from debris, cars rolling over them, etc. I see them loosening quickly at best.

            But yeah, besides the whole risk of making barbed hurricane whips, it doesn’t seem quite as stupid as it looks. If they’re really lucky and only fight the wind itself, perpendicular to the roof, they might actually help.

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              Some friends of ours strapped down their roof for Hurricane Georges. They lived in a wood frame house on a hill and knew better than to just trust that everything would be ok.

              Anyway, they still had a roof after the hurricane, but the winds were still strong enough to lift the roof up, damaging the joints between the rafters and the main posts holding the roof up. This damage I saw with my own eyes.

              Wind shear can be remarkably strong at 140 mph, blowing across a roof like that. It would be a shame to lose the house because you didn’t take two hours to put some straps over it.

      • peanuts4life@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        If it’s anchored into concert blocks, it’s not much different than internal hurricane straps that hold a roof on. They won’t move, or damage the roof, you don’t know that your talking about.

  • Bahnd Rollard@lemmy.world
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    The problem is almost never that the wind it blowing, its what the wind is blowing.

    • itsnotits@lemmy.world
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      it’s* what the wind is blowing.

    • Chris@lemmy.world
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      Hurricanes rip poorly built roofs off all the time. Builders get lazy and install the hurricane anchor things wrong. At least the local home inspector on Reddit used to say

      • Chef_Boyardee@lemm.ee
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        I trust reddit posts too.

        • KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.comBanned
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          i would trust that redditor seeing how homes are often built lmao

          • Chris@lemmy.world
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            That particular redditor had a long history of weekly posts with the shitty home builder work they inspected, but I hear the argument, I have no evidence other than hearsay and didn’t research it myself.

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      In this case, I expect it’s going to be blowing those ratchet straps after they become unanchored, turning them into whips that’ll cleave the roof in half.

      • KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.comBanned
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        unanchored

        whips

        schrodingers whip. How is it both unanchored and a whip at the same time.

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          Two anchor points per strap.

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        The description for the picture says they are connected to big burried concrete blocks, so likely the house is gone before these straps get loose.

        • Amanduh@lemm.ee
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          Yeah but if a tree slams into the strap and breaks it

          • RestrictedAccount@lemmy.world
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            Those straps aren’t going to break.

            • Amanduh@lemm.ee
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              Look man I’m not a sciencologist but if a big ol tree smacks into that strap maybe the strap doesn’t break but the metal tie downs? Idk man doesn’t seem like it would work out well for the house or straps

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                A 2" wide straps is supposed to fail at about 10,000 pounds/4500kg of static load. The nylon strap will fail long before the metal hardware does, and the roof is going to fail before either of those do. If a large enough object fell on the strap, the most probable scenario is that the strap would end up acting like a wire cutter to the roof.

                • Amanduh@lemm.ee
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                  I believe you

              • DancingBear@midwest.social
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                You could use those straps to lift a large tree up in the air with a crane

          • Zombiepirate@lemmy.world
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            It’ll trampoline off into the neighbor’s house.

          • KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.comBanned
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            homie these straps are probably rated for a tree falling on it lol

            • Amanduh@lemm.ee
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              Ok but what about 20 trees and a lot of debris?

              • KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.comBanned
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                ur house is probably part of the debris by then lmao

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            It might break the roof. Those straps are nearly as wide as that truck’s brake lights, i don’t see them snapping so easily.

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      Ron White, is that you!?

      • FenrirIII@lemmy.world
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        They call me… Tater-Salad.

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      If your ass gets hit by a Volvo…

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    If it keeps the roof on maybe it’s not so dumb.

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      No, it’s dumb.

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    I wonder what the vibration frequency of those straps is, once the wind is blowing through them.

    Will they vibrate the roof into mush before they pull out of the ground and become metal ended whips?

    • MachineFab812@discuss.tchncs.de
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      As someone who straps, I felt this in my soul. God I hate that noise(I use tarp clamps for dampeners).

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        I’ve used a twist in the strap and that seems to help a lot.

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          Gotta be careful though, twist in the strap can ruin the strength limit of the strap if it’s under load

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            Interesting. I was under the impression that the vibrations could be a problem if not twisted — apparently it’s a hotly debated topic, who knew! https://dccargo.com/blogs/strap-chat/to-twist-or-not-to-twist-cargo-straps

          • MachineFab812@discuss.tchncs.de
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            This is how I was trained, yeah. No twists!!

            • bdonvr@thelemmy.club
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              Apparently this is a bit of a myth https://youtu.be/ifyJjQXOttE

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            Someone tested this and found it to be basically not true. https://youtu.be/ifyJjQXOttE

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