Apart from the eyecancer-inducing color scheme - I cannot see any dishwasher.
Well then it’s definitely a deal breaker 😂
(Are dishwashers that common in the states? I’ve lived in 16 houses and never had one, when friends get them installed it’s a celebration, they’re dishwasher owning kind of people now, fancy)
They’re only useful for parties imo. Otherwise you put your spatula (or whatever) in the dishwasher and have to wait all week for the dishwasher to fill up with all the other dirty dishes just so you can have your clean spatula back. But yes in the US they are in every kitchen.
A family with kids goes through a lot of dishes.
How big is your dishwasher? I live in a three person household and the machine runs once every day on average.
At least.
I like mini dishwashers, since its generally only one days worth, two st most of dishes. Rinse, put in washer, done and ready to go by the next day!
Why not just handwash the dishes you might ask? Because my roommate will openly judge me!
I’m a single person and my regular sized dishwasher runs 1-2 times a week. I use a lot of bowls while cooking and containers for leftovers and stuff. Pots fill the lower floor up pretty quickly. Pans, knifes and anything wooden I wash by hand. I could live with a smaller dishwasher but then it would run even more frequently. I can’t imagine a life without one.
There are 2 of us in the house and we try to run the dishwasher every day. If you cook your own meals you can easily fill the dishwasher daily.
I’ve had one apartment w/o a dishwasher, and that was a 100+ yo house that had been converted into apartments, and the kitchen was super small.
Other than that, every apartment and house has had a dishwasher. Mine actually has two (second is in a basement kitchenette w/ no stove or oven).
We had no dishwasher in our first flat, as we put a washing machine there - it was either that or carrying the laundry up and down several levels.
Wow, a washing machine in the kitchen? That’s really odd…
I feel so privileged having a separate laundry room and a dishwasher in my kitchen. That’s really typical for my area (US), and I’ve only had one apartment that didn’t have laundry hookups in a separate room (in a bathroom or closet).
The bathroom was never intended to host a washing machine, as there were spaces in the basement for that. But I would not want my handicapped wife to have to carry all the laundry up- and downstairs. And we used a machine that was both a washer and dryer in one, The flat was quite small, but as a first place to live on our own, it was fine.
They are common not only in the US. I would not want to miss it - it would seriously degrade my joy in cooking if I had to spend as long on cleaning as on cooking.
I’ve never been to a house in Norway that didn’t have a dishwasher. Even cabins up in the mountain or old seaside cabins have them installed if they got water access. Where do you live where it isn’t common?
Corporations are purchasing unprecedented amounts of real estate, but it’s definitely the market that’s keeping this from selling.
My question isn’t their taste, but their budget. How the hell did that kitchen cost $15,000? Even if they had to replace everything I couldn’t see it being more than $5k.
Is the floor also marble?
Lol an IKEA kitchen now a bit bigger than that is 10k€ without placement and composite counters and no floor. Prices have over doubled in the past 5 years. + floor and actual stone countertop is easily 15k
We are renovating our entire house and doing everything except pouring concrete slabs and our tile roof ourselves and the kitchen this big + and island is 15k€ at good value places, slightly better places are 25k+ with placement.
5k is an absolute pipe dream. Wholesale materials alone without appliances would be around 9k (assuming decent quality cupboards and real stone)
How the hell did that kitchen cost $15,000?
The floor is also marble. And purple marble.
To be fair it also looks like a photoshop job.
15k is a very normal price to flip an entire kitchen. Not even counting the appliances. Just the flooring and cabinets.
Yeah it seems like I can’t get anything done for < 6000 anymore. I can’t imagine a whole kitchen costing only 15
If you keep all the existing appliances and build your own cabinets while already having all the requisite tools and do absolutely everything yourself, it’s doable, but tight. Shits expensive these days.
Building your own cabinets will be monumentally more expensive unless you are an experienced cabinet maker with a bunch of tools already.
Lol when was the last time you priced out a kitchen remodel? 5k would maybe get you the cabinets
It was admittedly a while ago, but pre-built cabinets are like $200 a piece so there’s maybe $1500 worth of cabinets there. It’s not a huge kitchen.
Unless these idiots bought custom made cabinets, didn’t bother doing anything to the left of the stove, and then painted them a horrible color.
Those are definitely custom to fit that space and accommodate the sink/hood. Though why there’s such a big stile against the wall left of the range is beyond me. Shit planning and taste.
Custom cabinets and they couldn’t even get the top doors to match the bottom
With custom cabinets they would be able to fill that gap on the left and also use smaller filler for the bottom cabinet left of the range. For pre-fabricated cabinets they usually only have size increments of 3" so you end up with big fillers. The sink area upper cabinets look like a standard size and the hood cabinet is actually wider than the hood so it definitely wasn’t made custom to this hood.
If there was an outlet there, I could see that spot being meant for an appliance like a microwave or something. But I can only see one wall outlet in the entire kitchen.
I don’t think following code was part of their design.
2-3k to paint existing cabinets, new hardware 4-5k epoxy floor and countertops 4-5k new appliances 3-4k left for drywall, paint, lighting, trim, framing, hvac, plumbing, electrical.
She could have gotten more for less but not by much when you are hiring it all out. Doesn’t even look like she touched the tile backsplash, which would be 1-2k more.
I remodel kitchens in the midwest, and we would charge a lot more than that for this size kitchen. She clearly didn’t spend for a designer, though.
2-3K for paint?
You’re getting reamed by your painter if he’s charging you 2-3k for a small room like that.
I think that’s an average professional price for my area, but there’s always a cheaper painter. Spraying cabinets the right way is a big nasty job. Thankfully we don’t do it much anymore.
I finish my own cabinets, so maybe I’m just out of touch. But materials alone is only like a hundred bucks or so, and a company already owns the compressor and paint sprayer. I don’t think I’d pay more than 1k, it better be fucking Van Gogh painting my cabinets for anything over that.
Wanna redo my kitchen for $15k? I’ll hire you right now, and pay half up front.
Damn, I should get into home improvement. I always did all that myself which is why my estimate was so low.
Plus that doesn’t look like a terribly expensive stove or sink.
You are living in the past.
No, I just do a lot of stuff myself. I could do better than that kitchen for $5,000 with some smart shopping and elbow grease. I redid the floors, bathroom, and kitchen in an 1860s cabin for that much back in 2013
If you don’t pay for the labor and have the time.
Yes, 2013 is indeed the past. Inflation, shrinkflation, and price gouging has driven prices up and quality down
I’m not old you’re old.
The most expensive part here is the countertops, which is pretty hard to do on your own, especially if you’re doing stone (super heavy, special tools to cut to size, etc). That alone is probably $3-5k.
The rest is pretty easy to DIY:
- decent laminate flooring that looks like wood - <$1/sq ft; hard wood is $2-4/sq ft - <$500 including any tools, fixes to subfloor, etc
- cabinet doors (assuming you don’t need to replace the whole thing) - $25/door, plus cost of paint/stain (idk, $50? $100 max?); looks like ~$500 for the above kitchen?
- sink, faucet, etc - quite variable, but probably <$500 even for fancier options
So you could probably do <$5k if you’re in the budget range, <$10k for something a bit nicer, assuming you DIY most of it. This doesn’t count appliances and whatnot, which IMO shouldn’t be part of a reno unless you’re specifically planning to change the size of the appliances (e.g. you want an in-set oven, larger fridge, built-in stove, etc).
If you ask a contractor, they’ll probably say $15-30k, and it could go up from there.
This is just some back-of-the-napkin math after some light browsing on Home Depot.
One way I saved a ton of money adding a kitchen was to get cabinets and counters from people who were redoing their kitchen. Got that for the price of hauling it away. I also got 1000 sq ft of solid oak tongue-in-groove flooring for $250 from someone who overbought for their own home improvement project.
2013 was over a decade ago we’ve went through both a housing crisis and record levels of inflation since then.
Yeah that’s why I can only do the kitchen for five grand and not the whole house
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I’m going to be honest, I like it
15k on what exactly? They just painted the wooden doors of the old units purple.
Seems legit to me. Pretty much any kitchen reno is hard to keep under $10k. It adds up soo fast
Assuming you get a contractor to do it for you, and most self-respecting contractors should refuse to do this job.
I’m in the middle of building new cabinets for my kitchen and I was freaking out over what the wood I’m using costs (about $25 for each 8’x1’ plank) until I priced even the shittiest prebuilt cabinets at Lowe’s. Holy fuck those things are expensive, and they’re just shitty pressboard.
What kind of wood are you buying that’s $25 for 8’x1’? There are hardwood options in the $1.5/foot range, so you must be getting something kind of fancy.
This stuff, definitely not fancy at all - in fact barely acceptable for cabinetry. I don’t know where you’re getting your wood, but you can’t get 12" wide 3/4" planks for anything close to a buck fifty a foot where I live. This is the closest thing to it at Lowe’s, and it’s absolute garbage, full of knots, badly warped and not even an actual foot wide. Even poplar would be more than twice as much for 6’ boards, and oak would be three times as much. The manufactured stuff I listed is at least straight and unwarped and it’s a full 12" wide.
Ah, I was just looking at planks, thinking of something like this. Larger boards would certainly cost more.
And that oak board is only 6’ long…
The wood I linked I’m just using to frame out the cabinets themselves. It would be much too crappy to make the doors out of, although I probably would have considered it if I hadn’t found a full kitchen’s worth of good-quality cabinet doors on Craigslist for $250.
On the drugs that convinced them to do this.
I see no before picture so I assume the marble flooring and countertops. Plus the mosaic backsplash tiling maybe? And it’s entirely possible those are brand new cupboards.
Not sure of that is real marble, but here’s a random PSA anyway:
Don’t put marble anywhere close to anywhere you might spill anything remotely resembling acid. You can literally etch that stuff with OJ.
Oh my god I looked more closely. I think that’s acrylic resin. Ew.
It’s days like this I curse the world for letting me be born with eyes.
no its the market who is wrong
Those are some tall top cabinets, you allmost have no space below them to work
Personally I like it, but I am well aware that I have tacky taste.
P1mp1n ain’t easy player.
I know several people who would pick this house just for the kitchen…
Is it wrong that I kinda fuck with it?
If you’re wrong I don’t want to be right
How did you get introduced to the cast of Real Housewives of Salt Lake City?
I guess I fucked one for 7 years? But she never told me she was a reality TV star!
I’m absolutely one of them. It’s a bit wacky, but not non functionally so. My taste leans simple but bold
I think we’ve had this one before.
It’s grape flavored.
I’m gonna tie you to the radiator Ggggrrraaape you!
For reference: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tmrDypTB_Y0
LOL fuck flippers. Making living expensive for everyone else.
No one did this for a flip. This reads as someone who really likes purple. That floor and countertop cost extra and someone flipping wouldn’t have spent the money on that. A flip would be biting brown or gray with the cheapest materials and crappy workmanship.
Yup, safe colors and cheap materials is key to flipping.
Also their ‘renovations’ usually just need to be taken out or repaired to normal by the buyer as they rarely use proper licensed tradesmen, or check to see if what they’re doing is even sound for the building. I’ve seen a center brick fireplace, clearly holding up the roof, just ripped out and plastered over.
This made my European building standard brain spasm… how could one… that’s outright negligence…
