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      Oh shit, I forgot I had flux turned on, so I was like “that’s an old fashioned brown, but not too garish”. There’s a lot of blue in that brown…

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      Partly. White for the countertops is fine, white on that floor… isn’t.

      But the purple is definitely an issue as well, go with browns or pretty much anywhere on the black/white spectrum for cabinets. IF you go with anything else, you really need to be careful with the rest of the kitchen design.

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          Fair. But walls are easy to paint, but the purple cabinets limit your options a bit.

          If the cabinets were some normal shade (like dark down or black), something in the tan range could work.

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            Not everyone loves brown. There are some other decent options. Banana yellow, lime green, navy blue, burgundy etc could all look good on flat, synthetic cabinets. It’s when you’ve got the wood grain and/or beveled cutouts that people gravitate toward natural wood colors.

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        My thought was a teal, light green, light blue or other light and airy color to maintain the whimsy but be less jarring

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          Yeah, that could work, it would really depend on the shade. I think the light blue in particular could work.

          But purple is pretty hard to work with…

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    Corporations are purchasing unprecedented amounts of real estate, but it’s definitely the market that’s keeping this from selling.

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    My question isn’t their taste, but their budget. How the hell did that kitchen cost $15,000? Even if they had to replace everything I couldn’t see it being more than $5k.

    Is the floor also marble?

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        No, I just do a lot of stuff myself. I could do better than that kitchen for $5,000 with some smart shopping and elbow grease. I redid the floors, bathroom, and kitchen in an 1860s cabin for that much back in 2013

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          2013 was over a decade ago we’ve went through both a housing crisis and record levels of inflation since then.

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          Yes, 2013 is indeed the past. Inflation, shrinkflation, and price gouging has driven prices up and quality down

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          The most expensive part here is the countertops, which is pretty hard to do on your own, especially if you’re doing stone (super heavy, special tools to cut to size, etc). That alone is probably $3-5k.

          The rest is pretty easy to DIY:

          • decent laminate flooring that looks like wood - <$1/sq ft; hard wood is $2-4/sq ft - <$500 including any tools, fixes to subfloor, etc
          • cabinet doors (assuming you don’t need to replace the whole thing) - $25/door, plus cost of paint/stain (idk, $50? $100 max?); looks like ~$500 for the above kitchen?
          • sink, faucet, etc - quite variable, but probably <$500 even for fancier options

          So you could probably do <$5k if you’re in the budget range, <$10k for something a bit nicer, assuming you DIY most of it. This doesn’t count appliances and whatnot, which IMO shouldn’t be part of a reno unless you’re specifically planning to change the size of the appliances (e.g. you want an in-set oven, larger fridge, built-in stove, etc).

          If you ask a contractor, they’ll probably say $15-30k, and it could go up from there.

          This is just some back-of-the-napkin math after some light browsing on Home Depot.

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            One way I saved a ton of money adding a kitchen was to get cabinets and counters from people who were redoing their kitchen. Got that for the price of hauling it away. I also got 1000 sq ft of solid oak tongue-in-groove flooring for $250 from someone who overbought for their own home improvement project.

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      Lol when was the last time you priced out a kitchen remodel? 5k would maybe get you the cabinets

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        It was admittedly a while ago, but pre-built cabinets are like $200 a piece so there’s maybe $1500 worth of cabinets there. It’s not a huge kitchen.

        Unless these idiots bought custom made cabinets, didn’t bother doing anything to the left of the stove, and then painted them a horrible color.

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          Those are definitely custom to fit that space and accommodate the sink/hood. Though why there’s such a big stile against the wall left of the range is beyond me. Shit planning and taste.

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            With custom cabinets they would be able to fill that gap on the left and also use smaller filler for the bottom cabinet left of the range. For pre-fabricated cabinets they usually only have size increments of 3" so you end up with big fillers. The sink area upper cabinets look like a standard size and the hood cabinet is actually wider than the hood so it definitely wasn’t made custom to this hood.

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            If there was an outlet there, I could see that spot being meant for an appliance like a microwave or something. But I can only see one wall outlet in the entire kitchen.

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      2-3k to paint existing cabinets, new hardware 4-5k epoxy floor and countertops 4-5k new appliances 3-4k left for drywall, paint, lighting, trim, framing, hvac, plumbing, electrical.

      She could have gotten more for less but not by much when you are hiring it all out. Doesn’t even look like she touched the tile backsplash, which would be 1-2k more.

      I remodel kitchens in the midwest, and we would charge a lot more than that for this size kitchen. She clearly didn’t spend for a designer, though.

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        2-3K for paint?

        You’re getting reamed by your painter if he’s charging you 2-3k for a small room like that.

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          I think that’s an average professional price for my area, but there’s always a cheaper painter. Spraying cabinets the right way is a big nasty job. Thankfully we don’t do it much anymore.

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            I finish my own cabinets, so maybe I’m just out of touch. But materials alone is only like a hundred bucks or so, and a company already owns the compressor and paint sprayer. I don’t think I’d pay more than 1k, it better be fucking Van Gogh painting my cabinets for anything over that.

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        Damn, I should get into home improvement. I always did all that myself which is why my estimate was so low.

        Plus that doesn’t look like a terribly expensive stove or sink.

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      15k is a very normal price to flip an entire kitchen. Not even counting the appliances. Just the flooring and cabinets.

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          If you keep all the existing appliances and build your own cabinets while already having all the requisite tools and do absolutely everything yourself, it’s doable, but tight. Shits expensive these days.

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            Building your own cabinets will be monumentally more expensive unless you are an experienced cabinet maker with a bunch of tools already.

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      Lol an IKEA kitchen now a bit bigger than that is 10k€ without placement and composite counters and no floor. Prices have over doubled in the past 5 years. + floor and actual stone countertop is easily 15k

      We are renovating our entire house and doing everything except pouring concrete slabs and our tile roof ourselves and the kitchen this big + and island is 15k€ at good value places, slightly better places are 25k+ with placement.

      5k is an absolute pipe dream. Wholesale materials alone without appliances would be around 9k (assuming decent quality cupboards and real stone)

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    People shit on “acceptable beige”, “agreeable gray” (aka “millennial gray”), etc. but the problem is most things that people like more are more divisive. The people that live this kitchen I’m sure LOVE this kitchen. But for everyone else it’s a pass.

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      Speaking as one of the “everyone else”, it’s not just a pass on the kitchen, but a deal-breaker for the entire house. I look at this and all I see is so many of my weekends being wasted getting it to a state that my wife and I would even consider acceptable.

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        Yeah imo that floor is more of a deal breaker than the overabundance of purple, but then again I am a purple enjoyer (although I prefer my purple to have more blue in it)

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          I like purple, but in a kitchen it seems like a bad choice. It makes it look like a toy kitchen set, kinda.

          And there is some kind of dichotomy about the floors that is off-putting. I love the look, but its like if it can’t decide if it’s trying to be elegant or bold, and it kinda doesn’t pull off either. Like… The fake marble McMansion isn’t a great vibe, but unique natural pattern with bold colors is cool af.

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    I think we all know the problem here. Need a custom purple range and different hardware on the cabinets, would’ve sold in 3 days easy

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      Well then it’s definitely a deal breaker 😂

      (Are dishwashers that common in the states? I’ve lived in 16 houses and never had one, when friends get them installed it’s a celebration, they’re dishwasher owning kind of people now, fancy)

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        They’re only useful for parties imo. Otherwise you put your spatula (or whatever) in the dishwasher and have to wait all week for the dishwasher to fill up with all the other dirty dishes just so you can have your clean spatula back. But yes in the US they are in every kitchen.

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          There are 2 of us in the house and we try to run the dishwasher every day. If you cook your own meals you can easily fill the dishwasher daily.

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          I like mini dishwashers, since its generally only one days worth, two st most of dishes. Rinse, put in washer, done and ready to go by the next day!

          Why not just handwash the dishes you might ask? Because my roommate will openly judge me!

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          I’m a single person and my regular sized dishwasher runs 1-2 times a week. I use a lot of bowls while cooking and containers for leftovers and stuff. Pots fill the lower floor up pretty quickly. Pans, knifes and anything wooden I wash by hand. I could live with a smaller dishwasher but then it would run even more frequently. I can’t imagine a life without one.

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        I’ve had one apartment w/o a dishwasher, and that was a 100+ yo house that had been converted into apartments, and the kitchen was super small.

        Other than that, every apartment and house has had a dishwasher. Mine actually has two (second is in a basement kitchenette w/ no stove or oven).

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          We had no dishwasher in our first flat, as we put a washing machine there - it was either that or carrying the laundry up and down several levels.

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            Wow, a washing machine in the kitchen? That’s really odd…

            I feel so privileged having a separate laundry room and a dishwasher in my kitchen. That’s really typical for my area (US), and I’ve only had one apartment that didn’t have laundry hookups in a separate room (in a bathroom or closet).

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              The bathroom was never intended to host a washing machine, as there were spaces in the basement for that. But I would not want my handicapped wife to have to carry all the laundry up- and downstairs. And we used a machine that was both a washer and dryer in one, The flat was quite small, but as a first place to live on our own, it was fine.

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        I’ve never been to a house in Norway that didn’t have a dishwasher. Even cabins up in the mountain or old seaside cabins have them installed if they got water access. Where do you live where it isn’t common?

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        They are common not only in the US. I would not want to miss it - it would seriously degrade my joy in cooking if I had to spend as long on cleaning as on cooking.

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    So I’ve spent the last month looking for Houses. Nothing special, nothing extravagant. I came from a 1700sqft ranch with 3 bed, 2 full bath and a car port, small town, sold for about 215, and I got 135 take home after everything was paid off.

    I had to expand my budget to 350 up here just to sniff houses that aren’t in absolute disrepair on the inside and would require 50+ in reno, are 1.5 bth, or someone watched a couple episodes of Flippers and did a shittier job of “updating” the inside by putting the same cheap shitty grey vinyl flooring in several rooms.

    There was 1 house I really liked, good area, open floor plan and a great basement. Downside was all the first floor carpet needed to be tore up especially since there were large stains in one of the bedrooms and it was poorly installed so was already buckled and loose, and there were cheap vinyl tiles in the foyer and kitchen that showed their wear and had to be removed. Just under 1700sq ft listed at 340 and went over asking the day it hit the market.

    Another house, looked move in ready. 1500sq ft, with a half finished basement. Went to look at it…the house is claustrophobic, and the carpet needs to be pulled up also because of the terrible condition. The owners “finished” the basement by putting large vinyl tiles down themselves…which have already buckled and are about an inch off the ground in several places. They have a back patio which is about big enough for a Weber kettle grill and a camp chair. They’re asking 336, claimed they already had an offer when I was looking at it but I noped outta that shit. That was a week ago and it’s still on the market so either they were using BS tactics or the “offer” was for what the house was actually worth and they refused it. It’s also the smallest house in a large neighborhood.

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      the same cheap shitty grey vinyl flooring

      I have never in my life hated a house product more than this shit - and I grew up in the ‘70s surrounded by the fake wood paneling and the nasty shag carpets. I don’t even understand what that flooring is trying to emulate. No real wood is light gray and comes in 6" x 3’ planks.

      I’ve been renovating a house since last year that has that shit in the living room and I’ve intentionally left it uncovered the whole time in the hopes of fucking it up so bad that I’m forced to replace it, but unfortunately it is extremely durable.

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        This one particularly hurt. The house was listed at 350 a couple months ago, the price was reduced 10k, then went off the market, then yesterday was relisted at like 330 and claims “brand new flooring in 3 rooms”. Someone consciously chose this to be installed, thinking it would help sell their already overpriced house.

        Like, the salesperson needs to say “this flooring is popular among houses that stay listed for over 3 months and have their prices reduced around 25k”

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          Yeah, idk why people think “gray, wood-grain” looks good, either go with wood colored laminate (looks great in my sister’s) or something like tile. This floor just calls attention to itself way too much (“look at me, I’m cheap laminate!”), and it doesn’t look good enough for that.

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    I stand by that I fucking love that kitchen. Add a ton of modernist architecture that makes you think and a yard I’m allowed to grow food and replace the grass with mint and I’m in.