The whispering is all in her head and says she sucks
Definitive red flag if that is their supposed understanding of computers
Why? They’re HR and hiring managers, not IT specialists.
Try seeing it from HR’s perspective. They post a job and get +200 applications. The success criteria is not hiring the best candidate, it’s hiring a suitable candidate. Given that premise, why would you read through all 200 applications, when there’s someone with a nice website and cool sounding software, who promise that their product can sort through the resumes and only pick the relevant ones for you?
Heck, I’m definitely going to be looking for an ATS testing site for my CV now. It really doesn’t matter what we think of it. If you want to communicate you’ll have to do it in a way that your recipient will understand, and if my recipient is a PoS software that can’t read PDFs, then writing my CV in latex is probably not the most effective way to communicate.
The savvy ones are probably copy pasting entire resumes into chat gpt and then asking if they’re a good candidate.
Tbf I’ve done that with first joblistings. Like “ask questions that a suitable candidate for the following joblisting should answer in a job application”. And then pasting my cover letters asking for relevancy and phrasing help. Maybe I should try for ATS optimization.
Try seeing it from HR’s perspective.
K, now what.
Now you get it. That was what I was trying to say. They’re just trying to look like they’re doing enough to get paid.
We don’t care, it’s their job. I get that they’re busy, but it’s their problem, not mine. No excuses for these scumbags.
You can be outraged all you’d like, but if you choose to, then we’re not really competing for the same jobs.
I get that they’re busy, but it’s their problem, not mine.
So? What are you going to do about it? They’re making it your problem, and you can comply or not get hired.
IDK about you, but I’ve got a family to feed, car payments to make, a mortgage, and no self-esteem. It’s clearly hyperbole, but if I have to go down on a clown to make it easier to meet my income requirements, then I’m not gay but I’ll still be looking for some tictacs.
no self-esteem
Not setting standards for yourself is holding you back. I see people with your attitude get underpaid, passed over for deserved promotions, and get mistreated. You are enabling shitty companies to stay shitty.
It’s sad.
It IS sad, and shitty, that companies treat people like trash. But when you’re on your third layoff in 18 months for reasons completely out of your control, clown knob starts looking mighty appetising. Not everyone gets to live the same reality you do.
“we can’t afford ATS software that can read PDFs”
okay, can you afford to pay me a proper wage??
Sorry I can’t see this picture, can you upload it as a word document please?
I used to do layout and design for children’s books. I cannot tell you the number of times I requested an image to be edited, or a higher resolution version, only to be sent a word doc with the image inside the document.
I’ve gotten a screenshot in a word doc that was printed and then scanned to email. I couldn’t see a gd thing.
I asked someone to send me an image once (I think their logo) and they wanted to know if I prefer word or excel format?
When you email a graphic artist and ask them if they can send the file with layers and they send you an xls document with extra workbook tabs you know you are in for a fun day.
lol, that’s a boomer classic
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They are definitely feeding the resumes into some piece of software to eliminate people and it likely doesn’t take PDF. So they have to actually do their job and read something. Can’t have that…
I basically read this as “Please make my job easier by doing X”.
You think they bother to read it if it doesn’t fit in their system?
Not all of them but when somebody comes asking then probably a couple…otherwise no.
Can’t open a PDF? Fine, here is a JPEG of my resume.
I have been known to put high quality renders of my PDFs in word documents (image per page) to beat the file type validations.
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Apparently it’s because a lot of agencies use software that automatically scrapes résumés for keywords that match job descriptions and they don’t work very well with PDFs.
This isn’t a PEBCAK error for once, and that’s very surprising because I’ve learned the hard way that your average recruiter is a professional spammer that will flood your inbox with shitty roles whilst lacking the mental capacity to understand that entry level doesn’t mean 5+ years of experience.
This has got to be a shit post or engagement bait…
She doesn’t know that Word can open PDFs
Alternative suggestion: spray paint your resume on the outside wall of the offices of whatever company you are trying to apply at. Bonus points if you manage an approximate rendition of Comic Sans throughout.
This is legitimately feasible with a 3d printed stencil
I feel like someone should link this person to this thread. Her profile is very easy to find on LinkedIn. I’m sure she’d be shocked by what people are saying, but maybe that’s what she needs.
Reminds me of that greentext about an IT guy for a big business who has absolutely no idea what he’s doing and just keeps telling people over the phone to install Adobe Acrobat, about 2 or 3 times a day at most, and 98% of the time it works.
Thank you stranger for understanding my deep internet references when my wife sure doesn’t lol.
chief candidate whisperer
are they looking to hire a horse?
I’ve been in hiring discussions where word doc is looked down on since the candidate is not thinking about how to protect their data from manipulation.
This ladies take is dumb as hell, or as others have mentioned because her company changes applicants information.
Realistically what’s the worst that company is gonna do? Make my resume better?
I think they meant that the document can look significantly different based on the software reading it? Whereas a published PDF is going to look basically the same (embedded fonts, etc)
The number of times I got a word doc with the job description in it is ridiculous as well. Yes, I am judging you if you do that.
A PDF is also editable, sure, but at least everyone can open the goddamn thing without any problems.
Then stop using automated software that excludes candidates if the entirety of the job description isn’t embedded in the resume. You’re not special. You’re just another job. And 90%+ of companies use dumb filtering so people have to adapt or get used to 2k+ applications per interview.
This lady’s* take is dumb
PDFs are also editable…
Wait, they freely admit that they are incapable of opening 90% of applicants documentation?
Are you fucking kidding me?
That’s some of the stupidest shit I’ve ever heard… Hell, that would even be fucking stupid in 1998.
She’s lying, many recruiters want to edit your CV in word, e.g. removing contact data, so that the companies can only contact you through them.
Shitty and unprofessional practice, no self-respecting candidate would ever hand out their CV in an editable format
