as my pay has gone down relative to inflation the amount of fucks I give goes down.
Act your wage
I like that and am going to steal it.
Please do. I too stole it.
Just remember to steal some stationary as well.
If you’re not stealing from work, you’re stealing from your family.
Due to inflation I now leave at 3:30
Nothing breaks after 5pm because there aren’t any developers still doing releases.
Technically correct, which is the best type of correct
Edit: as long as you are not part of the infrastructure team. Then things break right after 5 PM.
Wfh is the worst thing for a dev.
Source: married to one, friends with several
Depends on the company, project, manager and teammates. That being said, fuck WFO. Hybrid should be the bare minimum in 2024.
eh, as usual the best option is one that let’s people choose.
Hubs can’t wfh, he completely loses any and all definition of set work time
eh, as usual the best option is one that let’s people choose.
Hubs can’t wfh, he completely loses any and all definition of set work time
Wfh is the worst thing for
a devHubs.Fixed it for you
Missed the earlier post where i mentioned other devs as well, huh.
I’ve been doing tech for 25 years, we have terrible work life boundary issues that are very readily exploited. (And yes, i have been wfh since 2015)
Hybrid is the best. There are certain types of work which needs my undivided attention and collaboration with my team; office. Other work which I can do slowly and alone; home.
HR: “But what about the bond? Team building exercises. Company morale. It will fall apart-”
Can you shut the fck up?
I work at one of the top ten data processors in the world.
ALL of our devs have been WFH since 2014 and produce better work now than ever.
At what cost to themselves?
Willing to bet they work a minimum of 150% of the hours they’re paid for
I dunno man, they’re really happy with the work life balance and the C-suites are happy with their productivity.
It’s funny even our sales and logistics departments are wfh, and the only people I ever see on the off chance I need to load a tape rack or something is security and building maintenance.
And we’ve been RIDICULOUSLY profitable all through covid. In fact covid only served to show the remaining staff how productive WFH is.
We are making so much money rn that they don’t even CARE about property costs and they leave the lights and AC on 24/7 for maybe 2 people in the entire site, and our 3 satellite sites are just as empty.
Sure there may be some A type salesbro personalities that need to be around others to work effectively, the largely spectrum oriented development community needs no such frippery.
I don’t think working overtime has much to do with WFH vs office for most people. We have a lot more WFH here since covid, and the only people I know that work a lot of overtime already did that before WFH was introduced.
For me, WFH means an hour more of free time, as I don’t have to spend it in traffic on my way from and to work.
To be honest, WFH for me means that if they need me to fill an hour in extra or so per day, then that’s kind of already costed in with travel times.
I’ve pulled 14 hour shifts covering for PTO or sick days and it really doesn’t feel even half as exhausting as a normal in-office 8 hours.
I leave at 3 pm on office days to beat traffic. Everyone does that. What is this 5 pm thing he talks about? Must be America…
I used to arrive promptly at 7am, and clock out at 3:30pm.
The bus to the office was always empty.
The bus home was always packed.
Now I work from home
When I worked in healthcare there were days where I clocked in at 7am and was forced to keep working until 11pm without any lunch or dinner break. Worker rights in the US are almost completely non-existent and the way some workers get treated is hellish
The US values company profits over all else. It’s different in Europe because we have legal protections.
Too true. I would give my right hand to live in Europe rather than the US.
How do you beat traffic if everyone does it?
I knew someone would see the logical flaw here… :)
What? No! I leave at 6pm. (But start at 2)
I leave on time, how is that an insult? I’d be much more insulted if someone asked me to work for them for free. That’s what unpaid overtime is.
I think they meant the “finance guy” insulted the whole “race” of “developers”, but otherwise they agree.
It’s a compliment. You’re skilled and valuable enough that the company won’t dare to give you any bullshit for leaving on time.
“Quiet quitting” 😂
Because yeah, you only do the job they pay you for, how dare you!
Today I sat down at the computer around 8:30, had lunch around 10:55 - 12:00, then at 13:00 - 14:30 I went for a walk with my wife and 6 month old son to feed ducks which he absolutely loved, and I stopped working at 16:10. Adding all that together should equal to… I don’t care. The company who bought us and ruined everything had a 1.5 hrs townhall yesterday with 880 attendees, equating to some €30k lost in man power.
I think “quiet quitting” is just the white collar equivalent to the more blue collar “nobody wants to work anymore!”
Not everyone has a coke budget 😞
Ops is like Hotel California.
That’s very true indeed.
Brother, life is too short not to leave when you want.
What?? Special occasion.
“Sorry we don’t live our lives for the opportunity to destroy ourselves for senpai company owner like you.”
My supervisor doesn’t know how to maintain what I build, despite me attempting to show her. At this point, we openly pity each other, her because I have no desire to do more than what my job entails, take the paycheck, and leave to go live my life, and I because she proudly has no life to go home to because she spends 12 hours a day plus here acting like Jesus on the cross for the greedy, indifferent owner.
I’m a bit of a 3-4 pm leaver (always do stuff on schedule)
Who isn’t racing out the door at 5pm? I trade labor for wages, I’m not sticking around for unpaid overtime just to make some investor who’s never worked a day in his life even richer.
These are the same people who measure lunch breaks by the second and suddenly become careless with clock after 5
Never stayed much past lunch, myself. Working in finance
You sure it isn’t the finance and management guys leaving at 4pm and earlier while developers are expected to work past hours and even at home?
Don’t forget Sales people too. At my company they frequently schedule fun activities right in the middle of the day.
