I’ve seen some people getting genuinely uncomfortable at the recent discourse. Just wanted to point out there’s more than one kind of weird.

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    I guess when I hear people derisively calling someone gay, I just think to myself, “They mean the bad kind of gay, they’re not talking about me.”

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        Kinda like that ONE time someone called someone gay and nothing like the billions of other times. Got it, how could I have ever been confused.

        Has it occurred to you that maybe I object to that, too? It’s not okay just because it’s Putin.

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      It doesn’t matter. Convservativea cannot accept the notion of a “good weird” because it removes all justification from their beliefs. The whole conservative belief system is founded on the notion that there is an effective normal and that normal must be protected from those that would upset it.

      They cannot say they’re the “good kind of weird”, because that means admitting that weird can be good. And if weird can be good, they have no ground to plant the roots of their beliefs in. They have to be normal, because if they’re weird, all the time they spent attacking others for being weird in the defence of what’s normal doesn’t make any sense. Calling themselves the good kind of weird is a complete 180 on what it means to be conservative and alienated a massive portion of their voting base who only vote conservative because they see people who are “just like them”, not weirdos who are willing to redefine sex and gender, or question historical narratives.

      The “weird” angle of attack has been so effective because it deconstructs the very notion of what it means to be a conservative. Giving them an out through the “good kind of weird” doesn’t change that.

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          I get that. I don’t think they’re capable of that level of self reflection. To them, weird is BAD. It’s being a part of the “out” group, which is anathema to them.

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          I think the point is that Republicans detest the idea of being weird no matter what, so they would rage at the suggestion of being a good weird anyway. To them “good weird” is an oxymoron, even though they are actually very weird and not in any kind of good way.

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            yeah that makes sense. i was envisioning them attempting to ‘own’ it by jumping into ‘good weird’ with both feet.

            but as someone else pointed out also, thats prolly giving them too much sefl-aware credit

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      Came here to say that. Quirky weird is wanting to wear a propeller hat as an adult because it’s fun and no one can tell you no. Creepy weird is wanting to wear a propeller hat to predate on children. They are not the same.

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    There is Portlandia weird, and then there’s “I want the government to track your menstrual cycles” weird.

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    No. There is not a distinction. We’ve been working for decades to make weird okay. Fuck them for throwing us under the bus.

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      If you’re a grown adult who isn’t getting offended by tampons or solar and aren’t absolutely obsessed with other people’s sexuality preferences, then Id say you’re in the clear.

      As long as you’re not bragging about how great your daughter would be to sleep with.

      I think there is disgusting/cringe weird and then there are people who are simply different.

      People who aren’t trying to follow the standard template are awesome because they’re rare and they have unique experiences to add.

      These guys however are all trying to follow a template, and went everyone else to follow it. And they’re trying so hard in a way that is so illogical it’s ridiculous because they want to be “alphas”

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      Are you fascinated with the menstrual cycles of strangers? You want to look into the underwear of everyone before letting them into the public bathroom? You so grossed out by other people’s consensual sex practices you want to take away their civil rights? You want trans children to cower in fear, and all the children to be surrounded by guns? You want women to know their place and shut their mouths? And black people to stick to menial jobs so you can kick all the brown people out of the country?

      Or are you normal weird, i.e. partly fun weird and partly sad weird?

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    If you like the word you’re the good kind. If it offends you, well, you’re weird.

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    Weird just means unusual (with slight negative connotations already) . So to use “weird” as an unqualified insult is to say that being unusual is a negative thing in itself. Which echoes the sentiment behind things like xenophobia and such. That’s why people are uncomfortable with this line of political attack, imo.

    To say “there’s good weird and bad weird” doesn’t say much more than that there are ways of being unusual that you view positively and those that you view negatively. But that’s obvious and doesn’t resolve the issue I mentioned before.

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    There are those who sing “I’m a creep, I’m a weirdo,” and those who claim to be “the opposite of weird.”