Pixel is the only game in town for anyone who wants a secure and privacy friendly smartphone as they’re the only ones that run GrapheneOS.
I do like the look of the 9, especially finally being able to get a smaller Pro model but the prices are getting silly and my 7 Pro is still working fine. Maybe the 10 or 11.
I’m also keeping an eye on Fairphone but they need to add all the hardware GrapheneOS needs to support them for me to be interested. And it’d help if they weren’t launching with last gen specs. Fairphone 5 came out after my P7P but is inferior in most ways, I just can’t justify paying for a downgrade as much as I support the mission.
And it’d help if they weren’t launching with last gen specs. Fairphone 5 came out after my P7P but is inferior in most ways, I just can’t justify paying for a downgrade as much as I support the mission
Right? I like the idea of Fair phone and Linux phones as well, but they always seem to slap in mediocre hardware at best.
Even the latest Fairphone 5, like you said, comes with a Qualcomm QCM6490 from late 2021. It wasn’t designed for phones and can’t even compete against the Tensor G2, a processor already widely regarded as crap
I want a phone for $0, which Koodo (or other) will offer this phone for within 15 months.
I’ll contain my excitement until then.That being said, I am liking the Pixel line, in general, so I’m sure either my wife or I will have one eventually.
Also, I haven’t known anyone to have genuine phone excitement since the blackberry (c. 2009), though I often detect iphone smugness (if only they knew).
I do miss “back in the day” when I was a kid, where every phone had its own OS and apps, and it was exciting to go through every single option and button on the phone
These days, bar a few small hardware differences, every iphone is the same as the next, and every android is the same as the next.
I much prefer a standardised OS (android,iOS,whatever) but its not exciting anymore
I tend to get a new phone every other year. I bought a phone last year so I will probably be excited to see the Pixel 10 next year!
I have a pixel 8, and a pixel 6 before that. The same bugs have followed me the whole time. I guess PiP, keyboard, bubbles, and graphical issues just aren’t being worked on. I’m waiting on Apple sideloading updates before I’m upgrading, but this is a piece of shit. I would try another OS, but I am afraid of getting banking apps and Google Fi working.
Personally, I gave up on google as a whole
Same. I have come to trust Apple’s commitment and attitude towards user privacy substantially more than Google. I actually know a person that works in a fairly high middle management position in a technical department at the fruit company, and he told me that even their internal handling of user data is incredibly restrictive, even when it makes their jobs harder. I don’t think Apple is perfect, but better than the alternative.
Apple is a locked in ecosystem what is based entirely on proprietary software. I’m not sure how that is good for privacy. They can and are collecting your data. You also can’t get apps outside of the App store which limits your options.
AOSP based Android Like Lineage OS is the only way.
Okay
yes I’m surprised at the lack of FOSS apps on IOS.
I’m not
The App store is very restrictive and the OS is locked down
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Apple’s commitment to privacy is just marketing:
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/sep/23/apple-user-data-law-enforcement-falling-short
https://www.cyberghostvpn.com/privacyhub/apple-privacy-violations/
Not saying Google is any better, but Apple is much worse than they paint in adverts
I’m well aware of the risks inherent to not running calyx or graphene, but my threat model doesn’t justify sacrificing a lot of the functionality that I enjoy on an iPhone. If my threat model required it, I’d have an unactivated burner and a pixel device running calyx in addition to my iPhone. I’m happy settling for “better than google” based on my needs. I also have a couple PCs running Linux, with steps I can take to ensure some level of privacy if needed.
Thanks for posting some good reading though, it’s all shit I’m generally aware of.
Pixels are the best degoogle phone thanks to GrapheneOS…
ok?
What a dumbass edit. It’s probably because “ok?” Adds literally nothing and you could’ve just said nothing instead. But noooo must be fanboys down voting you right? 🙄
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3rd option. I’m not excited about the 9, but I’m sticking with the Pixel 8 I already own. I’ll upgrade to whatever Pixel number adds enough new features to justify the cost.
Not excited, but not disappointed. When my current phone reaches EOL i’ll buy the next pixel phone, put grapheneos on it and keep being mostly satisfied. No need to buy a new phone before EOL. EOL for my phone is 2028
If they released a phone with a headphone jack, I’d buy that as soon as it was available to signal that its important to me, I wouldn’t wait for my current phone to go EOL.
I’m abnormal, I know. People in my life get new phones more frequently.
Person A: when their phone gets full, they buy a new one
Person B: can’t keep their phone from getting cracked and destroying hr display every 6 months or so
Person C: keeps losing their phone, in a bus, on a airplane, at the beach… So far
I don’t know anybody who buys a phone, just to buy a new phone for fashion or chasing trends.
I have had the same phone for over 5 years. I run Lineage OS and it gets security updates once a month. The downside is that it doesn’t get firmware updates but that has more to do with Qualcomm
I have already said “goodbye google” and “hello moto”, but long story short I had to factory reset my old Pixel 6 last night and ran smack dab into this:
https://9to5google.com/2024/07/01/pixel-6-reset-bricking-reports/
Right now I don’t even know how to turn the damn thing off. 😆
I have an 8. Also owned a 7 (but I do lots of hiking and broke the glass on the 7, so couldn’t trust the waterproofing anymore, so upgraded).
Why would I give up on their hardware though?
I’m still sitting on my LG V60 and dreading the day I have to lose my headphone jack and micro SD slot.
I’m riding this 6a all the way to bricktown, then I’m switching to a repairable alternative. Also never buying Google hardware or registering for Google services ever again.
Do you have any prospects in mind for a repairable phone? I’m of a similar mindset, but the premium on the existing ‘repairable’ phones out there is so high that I don’t feel like I can justify it.
No not really. I said it a bit vague because I think because of EU mandates more phones will be repairable(Soon TM hopefully). I wholly agree with you about the price of, for example, Fairphones. On the other hand my usage has changed radically from 10y ago, and consequently my phone is holding on much longer, so I’m saving up in the extra years this phone is surviving for a more expensive and arguably worse phone except for the repairability. Every day, it becomes worth more and more to me to be as independent from (large) corpo’s as possible, so effectively it’s becoming a better and better deal 😊. Same story for laptops, except it’s Framework instead of Fairphone
Never given the slightest flying fuck about flagship phones.
Current phone is an A52 that I bought on sale and intended to use for at least 4yrs.
Stop feeding the bullshit machine!!!
Bought a pixel 3 as soon as the 4 was released.
It was a fantastic phone… except for the two times it got stuck in a boot loop until the battery died.
Bonus points for the second time, when, thanks to a google update for emergency services, it decided it should dial emergency services every time it restarted…meaning I had to stay up until 330am that night, hanging up on emergency services, until the battery finally died.
A year or two ago, I bought a P7 Pro to replace it, hoping it’d have all the good of the P3, but with better camera, bigger screen, and no boot loop.
It is indeed bigger, the camera can zoom more, but isn’t necessarily better, there’s no boot loop issues which is great…but I find i have more cases of the phone locking up and needing a restart…and the in-screen fingerprint sensor (and gesture controls) are absolute hot garbage compared to the P3.
The fingerprint and gesture annoyances have been enough that my plan now, unless there’s something significant that changes things, is to go back to an iPhone for my next phone.
You can turn off the weird gesture shit and go back to the three buttons in settings.
“Navigation mode” -> “3-button navigation”
TBH the lack of a back button is one of the things I dislike about iPhones
Rear fingerprint scanner though…I miss it so much
except for the two times it got stuck in a boot loop until the battery died.
Did the emergency shut-off (holding down the volume down and power buttons at the same time) not work?
Nope.
And even if it did, it was restarting itself anyway.
It’s a glitch where the buttons break down mechanically, so it just thinks the user is holding the power button constantly, so as soon as it is off, it’ll turn back on.
didn’t the 8 just come out. I recently got a 7 to save some bucks.
The 8a came out this spring. The 8/Pro was last fall I believe.
ah yeah. I actually just got a 7a. honestly I find these short upgrade times to make it harder to pay attention to the stuff at all. Its like eating at a place all the time as opposed to eating out rarely and being hungry to experience that favorite place when you can.
Yes a year ago. Kind of works that way.
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