Rules for thee, not for mee
It would be nice to counter that with “OK, no more SNAP but minimum wage rises to $50/h”
That’s a mighty big neck ya got there m8.
“change my mind” is just an open invitation
I guess adding lead to it would change it.
Technically destruction is change.
crowder seems to have largely disappeared from the GRIFTERSPHERE, after video of him assaulting his wife. and there are instances of him Sexually harrassing MALE-only employees too.
That sucks. My small biz paid back our $60k loan, with interest. What a chump I was.
Genuinely. You paid an ice agent’s salary for a year, plus signing bonus.
Please set up your dinky little table somewhere with many tall buildings Steven.
Average!?
I thought the average was the Democrat party.
… Ohhhh. Right. by USA standards. I see.
Legitimately every Republican I met is defending themselves, from taking money from the Government, while every leftest is fighting for everyone else to take money from gov programs. Why are retardpublicans so worried about poor people taking from the rich while also stealing the same benefits from working Americans who need it. “Riches for me but no one else” is literally their tagline
Because they believe empathy is evil
Correction: empathy is a made up thing
As in that’s what they believe.
I’ve seen both sentiments
Thats a lot of words for ‘Selfish’
It’s deeper, and far worse, than just selfishness
They’ll say “if they’re clever enough to not pay taxes then that’s fine by me!” as billionaires pay less than 1% real tax because they get to write the laws and then they’ll claim that a city bike lane has stolen their tax money.
They’re stupid as hell. Like, profundly fucking stupid. Conservatives are so pathetic and I’m embarrassed to be considered part of the same species as them.
It’s just the political party for people who can’t overcome evolutionary greed.
There’s nothing evolutionary about it. Humans have been doing altruism and cooperation for hundreds of thousands of years. It’s cultural.
I strongly believe that greed is a vestigial trait from a time when scarcity was real. Ones instinct to preserve their bloodline would have necessarily involved greed, me and mine first. I also believe that some early humans developed the ability to overcome that instinctual drive, and we call that empathy. Life is actually a whole lot easier when you understand that greedy people are developmentally inept, their genealogy prevents them from having the ability to empathize with others. It’s not to say it isn’t a problem, but sometimes having an explanation to why a thing is the way it is helps understand it better.
That’s… Not how genetics works.
Let’s make a deal. We cancel SNAP and implement a Negative Income Tax as conservative economist Milton Friedman recommended. That brings everyone up to the poverty line, and everyone on SNAP today won’t need it anymore.
Benefits for you:
- close a bunch of SNAP jobs
- retail stores don’t need to remember what’s snap approved and what’s not
Benefits for everyone else:
- no more poverty
- no application process for benefits, just file a fax return
- cash instead of food-specific benefits, so people with food can use the cash for something else they need (clothes, utilities, etc)
Yeah, poverty’s expensive for everybody.
Much as I’m loathed to ever agree with an economist (conservative or otherwise), the general thrust there’s sound.
Let the currency (and energy) flow. For the good of all, the prosperity of all. Even the rich are better off.
The rich are better off is a weird saying. Who is better off a billionaire with $1 billion or a billionaire with 10 billion? They are the same, nobody can spend a billion in their lifetime. These people build $500 million mega yatchs because they have nothing better to do with their money.
has chowder ever changed his mind during one of these or does he just troll the entire time
Seems a safe bet it’s the latter.
Feigns being reasonable and rational, when really he’s already decided what the truth is, stubbornly sticking to his naive realism. All just a ploy. Seems he thrives on it. Narcissistic troll indeed. By his actions.
SNAP shouldn’t be necessary for anyone who works. The fact that in America someone can have a job and yet still needs SNAP to survive is absolutely disgusting and disrespectful. Pay people a living wage jfc.
A new law should be passed, if you have a job and qualify for SNAP then your employer needs to increase your pay by 100 percent until you don’t qualify for SNAP anymore.
Or we just stop the system where the corporations could buy laws to enable this, and their brutal enforcement.
The reason why laws are important, why you believe they’re just, is because they’re supposed to be the aggregate will of the people, and in practice, they’re just not.
The only people ive ever talked to who thought the state should need to support someone who was working full time with food and housing and stuff is tankies, actual ML’s who believed that that should be the core of the state. I guess in their ideal world there wouldn’t be anything fucked up about that, but we don’t live there.
It’s not just the laws that are fucked here, its the entire system of law as thing that expresses and protects what people and communities want that has been almost precisely reversed in function, and whose enforcers make all of us live in fear. That’s what needs to be fixed. The underlying systems that are not doing what it says on the package, because that’s not what they were ever for. To continue trying to tweak the gun to your head until it cleans dirt off your floor is insane and unreasonable.
What did the Walton’s for example actually do to control this much of the economy, to direct so much of it to their own whims and personal enrichment with no regard for or even explicit exclusion of the rest of us? Who thinks it was anything that deserved that kind of wealth?
What did the Walton’s for example actually do
I have a chud ex-friend who died on the hill of defending the Waltons (and other maga bs). Dude had always been an asshole but reached new lows of pathetic boot-licking with the Waltons. It’s seems strange but that’s actually the hegemonic ideology. Completely normal.
I disagree. Pay people UBI so any job automatically becomes a living wage.
Isn’t that what SNAP already is!? Ohhh snap!
Nope, SNAP is food assistance, meaning you get a couple hundred dollars to spend on groceries. UBI is cash you can spend on anything.
You’re both right.
The argument my friend always says is this cant happen or all small businesses will be shut down because only corps will be able to pay that high wage.
Counter point?
Ofc there are no citations for this “argument”? Capitalist ideologues are indoctrinated so deep into the hegemonic soup that they believe their pseudo-science is self-evident.
- Minimum Wage Study Debunks Business Claim - Increases in the minimum wage have little impact on small businesses, new research claims.
- Seven Myths About Raising the Minimum Wage—Debunked (See Myth #4)
- Does Raising The Minimum Wage Result In Job Losses In Small Firms? (No)
- A majority of America’s small business owners support minimum wage increase, even as they worry about worker affordability
I will keep these on hand !! Great sources
Turns out, a large portion of people using SNAP are employees of these “corps” (source), quote:
… The story repeats in all nine states. Walmart and McDonald’s were the corporations with the most employees using SNAP.
We are basically subsidizing their employees’ wages with our tax money. And at the same time, all those money goes to these companies’ bottom line. (where do you think their employees spend their SNAP money?)
This is a fucking scam, and must be stopped. These corporations must pay their employees a living wage, otherwise they must not be allowed to operate.
As it turns out, most small businesses pay a higher wage than the big corps. Average wages end up going down when a town gets Walmarted because Walmart pays less than the small businesses it drives out.
Im not sure thats right. Mc dick pays 15 dollars an hour here and a mom n pop shop downtown either wont hire you or pays 9 dollars.
That is clearly a local anecdote. Why would you think what happens at a shop and a McDonald’s in your community is representative of the average experience?
Right. They are stealing your livelihood from both ends, not living up to their side of the bargain and blame you for this problem. America s should all collectively not show up to work for a week and see if the tune changes, cause I’ll bet it sure as shit would.
One cannot debate with a POS like Steven.
You forgot to add “change my mind” under that, to feign seeming reasonable and open minded. ;)
Also this piece of shit doesnt have a mind worth changing. Just ignore him and use the calvin version of the meme, or better yet dont use that format anymore.
Imagine if someone genuinely did manage to change his stubborn mind though…
*Dreamer*
He should give a pop up lecture at Utah State.
Why? They’re a bunch of farmers out there, and it’s like a half hour from the freeway and another hour or two to an airport.
Surely somewhere like Utah Valley University wouldn make more sense. 😜
I wish to bash Steven Crowders face in with a Kentucky rifle, then his limbs, then for my final act I would shoot his left lung before burying the rifle barrel into his right. I loathes this cretin so fucken much.
I really don’t think he’s worth going to jail over…
