• oo1@lemmings.world
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    2 months ago

    Theres good cnts and bad cnts too , mostly there’s the somewhat more neutral daft c*nts. words are wierd. It’s like sometimes the meaning changes in different contexts.

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        1 month ago

        I’d say UK can be either way, but it’d be mostly affectionate between friends, but most always offensive to a stranger.

        I’d say ‘daft cunt’, or ‘stupid cunt’ , ‘cheeky cunt’ said to the face is much more likely to be genial mockery. ‘useless cunt’ is probably mildy offensive but could be either way.

        ‘fucking cunt’, or any of the above with the word fucking in there - more likely to be offence intended.

        and generally you’d not say it to a stranger unless you’re - varies regionally and by dialect of course. and as for ‘posh cunt’, ‘tory cunt’, ‘bluenose cunt’ . . . pretty much, offence intended.

        Julian Cope has a story about his song, “cunts can fuck off” where he was helped out by a rural Irish Farmer who told him “hop on the back ya cunt” . Of course that might just be the Gaelic word for “Englishman”.

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    2 months ago

    There are a lot of people who actively want to be called weird who are outright annoying.

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    1 month ago

    In this thread: There are two types of people in this world: good people and bad people.

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    Not sure I exactly agree. It’s more like if you or your friends are able to call yourselves weird, you’re probably alright. If “weird” is what you hurl as an insult constantly at anyone you don’t understand, you probably suck.

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      2 months ago

      Also: are you neurodivergent and have you had that word constantly applied to you in abusive ways

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        Yeah. I never have been diagnosed as neurodivergent but I’ve suspected I could be. But either way, I’ve heard the word used derisively all my life :/

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        For many people, including me, part of recovering from that abuse is accepting that you’re significantly different compared to the average person. If you’re ND and can’t accept that, you might be masking and that can be really harmful.

        That being said, there’s still a difference between being called “different” or “weird”, and if the latter is being hurled at you with malice by friends, they might not really be your friends…

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          Oh i know i’m weird, and i’m fine with it.

          I’m also Queer (and born in the 70’s) so i treat the two words with the same nuance. Certain people are allowed to call me those words. Others can keep a fucking civil tongue in their heads

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            There is a weird tone (pun intended) for an insulting kind of weird, one for an “acknowledging one is out of the ordinary” kind of weird and even one for a complimenting (even envious) kind of weird.

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      One day I called a co-worker weird. Simply cus the dude was acting odd.

      A whole thing broke out where he was extremely insulted at the remark and wanted to never talk to me again until I went farther than I should have to apologize.

      Thinking about it till this day… Dude that’s just fucking weird.

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        Did it ever occur to you that some people spend a lifetime being labeled as weird, or any other variation of “different,” in ways that suggest or directly say they are wrong in societal view?

        Especially some neurodivergent might just be fucking tired of it.

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        Yeah, it’s a …weird… word. Can be playful, a term of endearment, a reality check, or a horrible insult. And it depends completely on the context. And some people maybe just have trauma from being bullied and called weird all the time as kids. I’m guessing maybe that dude had experienced something like that.

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    I completely disagree. I don’t think the nerd being bullied for liking anime is “bad weird”, nor do I think the creep who doesn’t care when people call him out for staring at women is “good weird”

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      The people who see “weirdness” as being bad are the “bad weird.”

      The anime kid hates being bullied, but he doesn’t see non-conformity as a negative. It’s not the label of weird, but the negative sentiment behind it that hurts.

      The white supremacist who sees diversity as an evil doesn’t mind people saying he hates black people. What he hates (aside from minorities) is being identified as an “other” through the weird label.

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        Meta. I appreciate that last sentence.

        It’s a cultural node, social norm, expectation blah blah. What it comes down to is perception. We all belong to different groups. Many of these groups overlap. Sometimes we have niche interests that don’t quite align with the others. As you draw circles intersecting circles and push people into these groups, the further a circle is from another, the more likely there will be a form of conflict.

        This perception is linked to expectation through a lack of understanding. In some cases all of this is caused by fear, which is hidden behind anger. Ignorance creates this diversity of opinion and as those circles, or nodes in sociology, grow, the reinforcement of an idea grows with it. Adjacent nodes receive some of this growth until eventually something happens and a new node is formed creating a niche platform.

        Some comparisons below:

        A mechanic may not like computers. A computer person may like cars. A car person may not be a mechanic. A person who drives a car may not be either a car person, computer person, or mechanic. Yet a person who likes to play video games on a PC may not be a computer person and still likes playing games about cars. While a car person might still enjoy anime despite that being perceived more as on the computer side of culture.

        See how all of these find a way to interlap? The “weirdness” shows up when groups are formed that fall outside of these interactions, and yes, entire connected groups can then become niche and isolated. A certain National Socialist German Workers’ Party is a fantastic and horrible example of how perceptions can shift and niche opinions grow, pulling adjacent groups with them, and eventually splitting, often done by linking distant, loosely linked threads and yanking them to form a strangled web of bullshit.

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      Took me a sec to understand your comment, but yeah I agree. Generalizations are just that.

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    That’s some super faulty logic btw. Lots of good weird people would be quite bothered to hear anyone call them weird.

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      2 months ago

      And lots of good weird people aren’t to happy to be associated with whatever Republicans have become.

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      Yes but how else could the poster feel like they’d scored points on a man who doesn’t even know they exist?

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      Further, I would say that people actively trying to be seen as weird don’t have a good kind of weird - generally, shapping your life base of “what will other people think” isn’t very healthy, and that’s true both on the side of trying to align with what you think is the general oponion of others as on the side of trying to align against that.

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    2 months ago

    Life gets easier when you realize literally every single person is weird in their own way.

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    Life became so much easier when I fully embraced how weird I am, and stopped caring if people thought I was weird.

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      little girl tugs on her mother’s sleeve

      “Mom…why is that person wearing, um…that??”

      Mom, confused, looks around

      “Honey, you know you shouldn’t ta~” she stops as her eyes find the source of her daughter’s confusion.

      “Mommy?” the girl asks, uncertainty in her tone.

      “D-d-don’t make eye contact, honey. I’m uh sure he has his…” she stops, mouth agape for a moment before recovering, “…and now he’s screaming at that garbage bin. We’re gonna go! Come on, honey!”

      in the distance

      “I FEEL SO FREE FROM THE SHACKLES AND CONFINES OF THIS ONCE JAIL OF CULTURAL IGNORANCE! THIS BIN! THIS GARBAGE BIN REPRESENTS THE OLD WAYS. THE TRASH WAYS. I HAVE ACCEPTED MY WEIRDNESS. MY ECCENTRICITIES ARE OPEN TO ALL!”

      Phegan was never heard from again after this moment.

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      I think people who embrace their own little version of weird are less judgmental and generally happier and more confident.

      It becomes an endearing trait, rather than a sore spot.

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        Remember that peoples opinions are their own prison. Life is long. Building is much harder than destroying. Small steps.

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        The vast majority of people don’t care, the little that cares already know how weird you are.

        Embrace your weirdness, worry a bit less and have more fun.

        It won’t happen overnight, but everytime you catch feeling bad because your think you are weird, just own it. It already happened at that moment, nothing you can do about it right now.

        You will feel a lot less insecure as time goes on, you might not even care at one point.

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    Wow, I thought weird had already been reappropriated by us oddballs. From reading through this thread, it seems like that’s not the case. So I just wanna say, keep on keeping on fellow weirdos. Keep life weird

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    It’s sucks having to qualify which kind of weird I am. Could t we have found a different word to use? Bizarre and abnormal come to mind.

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    There’s different types of weird. There’s uncle bad touch weird, and there’s I like to collect insects and stage little lectures for my dogs on my day off weird. Different weirds.

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    In my experience, the act of calling people weird quite often says a lot more about the person saying it than the person being discussed. It’s not a good look; it is an ugly thing to do.

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        I read the room, I know how it is trying to be used, and it only reinforces the fact that most people kinda suck. I refuse to respect it.

        I want campaigns based on policy, facts, and results. Not name calling & “feelings”.

        This is basically Democrat strategy; it requires no might or skill of any kind: a retarded kid throws a bucket of pig’s blood onto a brilliant white shag carpet, points & screams about how dirty it is, and the Republicans scramble to clean up the mess. Wasting time, money, and effort on a mess that will never truly be clean again. Kind of like writing out a logical argument on this rabidly liberal platform, to have it downvoted & sometimes deleted. One side takes 5 seconds, ruins everything, very “effective”. The other takes hours. Effectiveness…hit & miss. On its face, there is no way to win against the one throwing pig’s blood on the white shag carpet.

        But now the Democrats face Trump. Trump, at his best, doesn’t really care if he’s dirty or not. So that particular Democrat strategy is rendered ineffective. Lately he’s wasted time addressing allegations, AKA, “cleaning up the mess”. I want to see more debates on specific policies.

        Ultimately, we’ll see which side wins come November. Or perhaps there will be another assassination attempt. ¯\(°_o)/¯ It’s hard to say. I am inclined to think they’re going to kill him. I’ve said that for probably the past year.

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      Oh yeah. Like when a person calls a racist bigot “weird”, it makes them far worse than any racist bigot.

      Or if you call a pedophile weird; you are, at that moment, worse than a pedophile.

      Or if a country is committing genocide, you can’t call them weird. That would be committing genocide.