I am, but what can we do about it? We don’t run things.
Not only does it make things brittle, but it makes a smaller number of things for governments to intercept to scan all internet traffic.
Honestly about the same as I did with crowdstrike, the AWS outages. It’s not a good idea, could lead to ruin, people won’t diversify, Goto step one. It’s easier to just have a sensible chuckle and move on at this point.
Because one company offers a good service many people like, and no other company is doing it, od doing it as well as cloudflare. We are also talking about a security feature where not having it and getting hacked, may be well worse than a few hours of downtime.
Cloudflare is not necessary for the internet at all. People choose to use them.
So, and I’m gonna pull my shameless plug ofc, but what about a decentralised internet?
Check out tenfingers or the sub (I put the weblink, is it !lemmy.world/c/tenfingers on lemmy browser apps?).
What about we take the internet back?
This seems interesting but I struggle to see how it helps, seems more like its for file sharing. Or is the suggestion that it could form the host side of a web ecosystem, with files for websites hosted in this decentralised way?
There was the Crowdstrike failure that tangled the airports last year, and the AWS outage that took out half the Internet just a few weeks ago. It seems like some one might be probing for vulnerabilities. One day, EVERYTHING might go down, for a while.
We’ll get a chance to find out what it was like to read a book instead of a screen.
The service providers get 100% of their money all the same.
This causes endless amounts of laziness on their side, and quality goes to hell.
We are causing this laziness.
Unless we, their clients, hold them accountable, and make them feel the impact of their faults in their pockets, things will continue to get worse and worse.
You know back in my day websites would protect themselves, as was the style at the time.
Now a days they just get cloudflare and put up a cookie notice.
Just one of those things lazy devs do.
Well the average website isn’t going to be able to protect itself from DDoS attacks or easily provide local cache copies of its content in multiple regions all over the world or create secured tunnels protected from general attacks. My company was affected by this and we are putting in contingency plans for this happening again but the whiteboard that we’ve created with all the features we need to reinvent is very full…
Why reinvent the wheel.
It’s not lazy, they just spend that time on other features.
Ya. Like popups and cookie notices.
It even took down the very instance we’re posting this on.
Most corporate IT hires fucking morons as admins :(
More than likely it’s their management who are the morons.
Where do I get a fucking moron certificate?
It would be nice to be hired atm.Amazon i think
I think you need to possess the certificate first before they’ll even consider you, though.
Also, hopefully without actually having to be a fucking moron, to get the cert.
You know? The fake sorts
I’ve been a contractor most of my career and I can assure you, fair share of ID10Ts in my circles as well.
Can confirm it’s not industry specific.
Places keep hiring me.
You must be likeable then.
What’s that like?
Sometimes there’s a high number next to my name on social media sites.
I barely noticed
I mean, the entire internet is owned by a few corporations. everything from the infrastructure to the entire DNS system is owned and controlled by corporations. in the case of DNS, it’s even an american corporation, that so far has kept its hands off of things and supposedly has not been interfered with by the US government.
What’s the fear there, that they would figure out what domain names you are resolving?
Try to do secure communication without that sweet domain mame… You can’t!
My thoughts is that they feel the need to control everything. And we all know how that goes usually…
maybe you could hijack sessions by redirecting and capturing authentication i don’t know im not a wizard my grandson is
well, if the people in charge of DNS decided to do something to DNS, they just could and the whole world would be at their mercy for potentially months. with how everything is digital these days, by taking down DNS for a single country you could cripple their economy and many of their public services. that means power, water, infrastructure like bridges, their internet, banking, etc. basically, you name it, it probably uses the internet in some way, and if it uses the internet then chances are it uses DNS. now, eventually, people would work around it if given the chance, but if you do something like that it’s probably happening right before a general invasion of their country.
it’s really bad that we have just one authority in charge of all that, especially one based in the US. with how authoritarian the US is getting, I fully expect DNS to be weaponized in some way at some point.
I’m guessing the concern would be resolving them to the wrong address, either to censor or to serve disinformation.
it’s very concerning, but what are the alternatives?
Fastly?
While some of the things that Cloudflare do are only possible through their massive scale, they also do a lot of things that are perfectly fine to do successfully also on a smaller scale.
For one example of one such thing, see:
I have to look into something like this, thanks for the resource
Someone please give a serious answer please.
My selfhosting gimmick is “no reliance on things outside my control”
Well, lemmy. That worked fine.
my lemmy was down
Multiple instances gives redundancy
You need to create your own Lemmy, with blackjack and hookers.
I mean… not only is it not very concerning, I barely noticed. If not for news about it here on fediverse, I might not have known. I guess I dont visit the corpo internet all that much.
I have been concerned recently that despite my best efforts I am still too attached to the corporately owned internet.
The fact that I felt no impact from this was a nice treat to start my week.
Obviously it is concerning. We have just been given a window of a glimpse as to what would happen if one service in which so many things rely on, gets messed up. Like today I was having trouble logging into my bank because guess what, they rely on CloudFlare.
I’ve read individuals relying on services provided by CloudFlare, their processes were interrupted.
I know that CloudFlare has a purpose and its purpose is being served, but there’s a reason why people love and should embrace the idea of multiple alternatives and hate monopolies.
It would be like, if Comcast as an ISP has a blackout, do you know how many subscribers they have? Some people in certain areas are all that they have so the blackout would knock them offline for however long. That’s why alternatives are important.
Amazon the other week, then this. Really does show how vulnerable much of the net is
