Yeah psychopaths are cool 99% of the time. But as usual its that 1% fucking it up for the rest
More like
"Ivy, you know who I am at this point. Let me attest that most of these people don’t actually do shit. There are layers of layers of management and shareholders that allow the average generational wealth billionaire to extract extreme amounts of wealth without doing shit. That’s honestly a good thing in your case, because anyone who actually has the ability to make obscene money in this universe is either a superhero or supervillain, and you would have just walked into their secret hideout.
If you do kill him, the best case scenario is a collection of hedge funds you never heard of divy up his controlling shares and keep business as usual flowing. The worst case is Luthor buys the company and makes everything a million times worse as step one in a convoluted plan to kill superman via kryptonite laced micro plastics. The most likely thing is one of those technically secret society orgs seizing control because at this point they just need some win. My money is on the Owls. They’ve been humiliated so many times they’ve been officially downgraded to “community advisory committee”.
I honestly don’t even understand where this is coming from. You and Freeze both have blank checks from both WayneTech and Star Labs to continue your research. Either of you alone could reverse large portions of climate change. If you really wanted to go the vigilante route, you could have just mind controlled him. Darksied is planning an invasion, there are no less than three evil AIs rolling around, I’m dealing with two separate split personalities, and the fact that I haven’t heard from the Joker in a while which means we’re all probably fucked. Even if I did notice, it would take me literal years to get around to actually fixing it. It feels like you are doing this because on some level you want to fail, because that’s easier than doing the hard work required to fix the systemic abuses of our system "
“…So I take it the Therapy’s working, huh Bruce?”
“Sort of. It’s Batman”.
“Actually technically right now you’re Nightwing. Care to explain that?”
“It’s a long story. The short of it is that I’m pulling double duty because Dick somehow forgot how to fucking Jump and Jason took Damien out for “Beer and Cigarettes”, which I can only hope is literal because anything it would be a metaphor for would involve no less than two dozen corpses.”.
“Jesus Christ and Harley said I was carrying too much stress. I’ll come back next week, get some rest Bruce”
“Batman”
"Nightwing "
“…”
Here’s some
Lemmy goldGolden LemmyIf Lemmy had the feature to tip with gold, instance operators would pop out of the ground like weeds and do anything to grow. It could lead to a flourishing of the fediverse.
And the enshittification would start.
Exactly that.
There is a reason we don’t have any direct rewards to donating, and there is a reason we aren’t aiming to grow as big as possible come what may.There really is some kind of bizarre twilight zone in the fediverse, where people understand that we need money to live in our societies, but still want free services by private individuals.
“We can’t make it easy to give money to people running the fediverse software and hardware, that would be capitalism. they should do it for free and hope we donate”
“We can’t make it worthwhile for content creators on the fediverse, that would be capitalism, they should do it for free and hope we donate”
Some individuals carrying the cost for all others is not socialism: it’s exploitation. A very well known theme in capitalism.
I have a < 100€ thinkcentre running my lemmy instance for < 10€ a year.
We don’t live in the nineties any more when bandwidth and computers were quite expensive.
Also, if you are a content creator, well, maybe an online forum, or the fediverse, or the local library just isn’t going to help you that much in sales. But if you do have something to sell that people want to buy, then there are lots and lots of places for you.
That doesn’t mean the fediverse must accept ads or coins or other dark patterns, who are the backbone of bad capitalism, not people spinning up lemmy servers for free lol.
If energy were abundant enough, we could create a highly advanced society where everyone used complicated technology for free though, at least if people cooperated.
Solar fusion could possibly achieve this in the future.
Dude if you do any short story writing send me a link cause I like how you framed this, bravo man
The most interesting, likeable, intelligent, philosophical and relatable characters in the Batman universe are the supposed villains.
I never really enjoyed Batman… I always liked everyone else that were his enemies.
This portrayal of Poison Ivy isn’t accurate to the comics. The actual Poison Ivy doesn’t care about saving humanity from climate change, she only cares about saving the plants. She murders vegetarians in retaliation for eating plants. She thinks plants have feelings, and she’s wrong. She’s not an environmentalist, she’s a plant supremacist.
Poison Ivy would kill all off all the birds that eat berries, and drive the berry producing trees to extinction from lack of pollination in the process. She’s not a rational thinker.
She thinks plants have feelings, and she’s wrong.
She’s not entirely wrong
https://swampthing.fandom.com/wiki/The_Green
everything gotta have some weird nuance these days though. Can’t just have the green lanterns either, gotta have red, blue, yellow, white, black, etc. Can’t just have the speed force, gotta have a whole cosmology there too. It’s a fuckin mess.
The Green is a collective consciousness, not an individual consciousness. If I kill a single neuron in your brain, do you feel pain? No. The individual plants don’t have their own feelings. The Green is a big picture phenomenon, but Ivy is incapable of big picture thinking. She sees a human trimming a hedge and she goes apeshit. The problem is that Ivy’s powers project a consciousness onto plants. She gives them the gift of sentience. In other words, she’s the one making the plants suffer, and she can’t see that.
Killing the billionaire doesn’t change anything. Someone else will take his place and continue the destruction.
Bruce Wayne has pushed for good environmental changes using his influence.
I’m tired of these idiotic memes made by people who have no idea about Batman.
Only fine thing about this meme is Poison Ivy 🥵
I add an asterisk to your comment.
If enough executives get killed by eco-terrorists then people will reconsider wanting to be an executive at those companies.
Nah. More hazard pay, more security, lobby for carte blanche against eco-terrorists.
…which increases the cost of doing business for those companies.
And if eco-terrorists are successfully killing their directors, then they are probably also setting fire to their offices, mailing poison to managers, sending death threats and hate mail to employees, vandalising company property, calling in bomb threats to their refineries, executing those threats…
The benefits outweigh the costs. Openly employing private armies with full government support, randomly arresting suspected eco-terrorists and their families, holding them indefinitely at undisclosed locations, raiding or UAV bombing reported gathering locations etc.
Think of all the fun to be had!
The peoples true power has and always will be the threat of violence.
Exactly! We should absolutely have groups of people inflict violence on anyone who opposes my political beliefs! (Don’t worry, my political beliefs are the true and virtuous ones, other political beliefs are evil and corrupt)
You are behaving clown-like.
That’s why you got to keep killing them.
If some one else takes his place they will also be killed.
Killing the billionaire doesn’t change anything. Someone else will take his place and continue the destruction.
Ivy: “Yeah, but it will be fun!”
Batman would rather beat up and cripple poor people who fell into crime from their situation, instead of actually doing something about it. After decades, Gotham ends up worse than when he got in, and three criminals just got crazier. He made it worse.
Like the War on drugs, with an intermediate level analysis :)
These stats about the 100 largest companies get posted a lot, and once again, it’s not meaningful because those companies exist to provide goods for other people. It’s like saying just 100 entities (who all happen to be water utilities) consume 90% of the world’s water so individual attempts to reduce water usage are meaningless.
People aren’t going to like the reality that we need BOTH people to change their habits AND we need companies to follow suite.
I mean, needed. Past-tense. We’re in it now, it’s too late to stop, maybe we can still prevent the worst case if people all get over themselves really fast and are willing to change the way they do things.
lol.
Yeah. I mean I agree that focusing on change at the systemic level is more effective than changing individual habits, but what people don’t realize is that the systemic change we need is the kind that will force those individual changes.
Taxing or regulating the oil companies will help, but it will help by making energy more expensive so people are forced to make do with less.
Reminds me of this scene.
People aren’t going to like the reality that we need BOTH people to change their habits AND we need companies to follow suite.
Jon Stewart said it best.
“The work of making this world resemble one that you would prefer to live in is a lunch pail **** job, day in and day out, where thousands of committed, anonymous, smart, and dedicated people bang on closed doors and pick up those that are fallen and grind away on issues till they get a positive result. And even then, have to stay on to make sure that result holds.”
HOLY SHIT YOU’RE A FUCKING GENIUS I’LL JUST PATRONIZE THE 100% RENEWABLE COMPANY THAT PROVIDES ELECTRIC RAIL SERVICE TO MY JOB YOU FUCKING GENIUS
YOU. DON’T. GET. CHOICES.
You do though? There’s a ton of things you can do to reduce your carbon footprint. Eliminate? No. But don’t let perfect be the enemy of good, or even the enemy of “less bad than doing nothing”
This is child brain. What’s the point of all of this? To feel better, or to prevent the extinction of the human race? You think paper fucking straws are going to accomplish anything worth accomplishing, or just mollify your rich-enough-to-have-choices ass to inaction?
Funny, it kind of seems like the opposite to me. While you make edgy leftist posts online I have made changes to my lifestyle to reduce my carbon footprint. If everyone used paper straws the evil corporations making plastic ones would suddenly start making paper ones. Not because they care about the environment of course but because that’s what consumers demand. Individuals making small individual changes can add up when done on a global scale. Let me guess- you think voting is a waste of time as well? If not, what’s the difference?
I’m an edgy leftist because I point out that your ‘carbon footprint’ means shit in the face of what the grid runs on?
anything I do is insignificant on a global scale. Same for you. But enough people acting together can make a difference and doing my part is the right thing.
You’re not acting together with people. You’re making individual consumer choices that do not extend outside the framework that is destroying the planet and will never challenge it. And you’re not doing your part. You’re siloing yourself and calling it a day.
Acting like you’re doing something when you’re not is worse than doing nothing. It’s dishonest and demobilizing. Either you’re extremely stupid or you don’t give a shit whether the world burns. You’ve staked a position where you get to feel morally righteous and that’s it.
ACAB includes batman. Pretty much all masked vigilantes are worse, in fact. Batman is at no risk of losing his job over police brutality. Batman brutality is just… Expected. And the police just let him do it!
It’s weird how cavalier Batman is about cooperating with police in modern stories. It used to be that it was done on the down low because everyone knew it was illegal, but in like Arkham Knight you have the Batmobile just pulling up into a designated parking space in the police station motor pool.
At this point Bruce might as well just invest in body armor, gadgets, and ninja training for all of the cops. Take a vacation.
Batman doesn’t give the cops ninja training because that would mean the cops on the take and the cops who kneel on black people’s necks for fun have ninja training. We don’t need to go adding karate chops to police brutality.
And even the “good” cops are complicit by being part of the organisation, so they don’t deserve ninja training either.
I agree, but I mean from Batman’s point of view he might as well. The idea that Bruce is worried about crooked cops kinda flies out the window with how much he cooperates with them IMO - in-character I think it’s just an excuse he gives because the real reason he’s a vigilante is his all-encompassing hero complex.
Batman works with individuals within the police he trusts, like Gordon, whether they’re at the top of the organisation or the bottom. He doesn’t trust 90% of cops, because he knows about ACAB. Keep in mind that DC Comics is a world where billionaires can be good people, so we’ve already got a fair amount of fantasy in the works. There are also unreasonably upstanding police, though just as rare.
Any time Spider-Man is accused of committing a crime, Jameson puts a bounty on his head and the cops start shooting him on sight. Care to explain how Spider-Man is worse than cops?
How much does the other guy in the room own?
I love that OP’s username is
A Cool DudeTurn him into a vagitarian. He’ll die happy
Is that a typo, or are we talking cunnilingus?
The latter, snatchurally
Ivy must really hate vegans and vegetarians, who go out of their way to consume her best friends in particular.
Nah. But sorta.
Ivy has been vegan and vegetarian and an omnivore depending on the author.
But the best take I have seen was in a comic she points out that she just respects how nature works. Animals and plants kill each other all the time. It’s only natural. But feeling entitled cause you use agave that a forest was burned down to grow en masse only as your sweetener makes you a hypocrite and part of her prey.
Seven years eh?
Batman is the bad guy and I will die on that hill.
Batman fundamentally embodies social justice as an individual violent power fantasy. He’s the ultimate reactionary: use violence to fix individual people’s problems, never address (or even acknowledge) the violence inherent to the social system. (Some authors’ occasional deviations from this core characterization do not make up for it).
At best Batman is enjoyable because anti-heroes are enjoyable (I’ve heard there are some self-aware issues of Batman). At worst it’s painfully unaware, mask-off copaganda (such as the one and-and-a-half Nolan movies I slugged through).
The top comment is a fanfic about Batman explaining social systems to Poison Ivy. Great idea, except that such wokeness is antithetical to his entire worldview. He’s basically a Republican who happens to be against the death penalty for personal/religious reasons.
Joker is the good guy too.
No sarcasm allowed >:(
None used. Seriously
More and more I feel Batman in quite a few versions is just the DC Punisher going around punching poor and mentally ill people
Waynetech does huge amounts of charity work, it’s just not very interesting in a comic book.
Gotham also has a literal curse that makes it perpetually dysfunctional. Its cop out comic book bullshit, but Gotham literally cannot be fixed.
Gotham also has a literal curse that makes it perpetually dysfunctional. Its cop out comic book bullshit, but Gotham literally cannot be fixed.
Ive always hated this argument. How many master sorcerer’s and litteral gods does this man know that could break the curse? Deep down batman knows that Gotham can be fixed, it’s just not gonna be him that does it. That kills him
The curse doesn’t get fixed because the story is about Batman solving crimes and if the crimes stop there’s no more story.
That seems like a bad excuse. They completely reboot the series all the time anyway. It’s not like concluding a story for once would actually stop them from just coming back next month with the same story again.
Because usually when they reboot it’s very poorly planned and they don’t tell writers far enough in advance. That’s why the New 52 was so confusing with Green Lantern and Batman continuing their pre-reboot storylines while there was a brand new superman, brand new Wonder Woman, etc. If they gave a writer like two years to conclude the story of Batman before a reboot that would be cool, but will never happen because comic book publishing houses are run by petty, nepotistic hacks.
Yup. It’s fucking stupid, but it’s there to stop people asking about it. Fixing
Gotham is basically a macguffin that the editors want you to ignore to just enjoy the setting as is.
Gotham also has a literal curse that makes it perpetually dysfunctional. Its cop out comic book bullshit, but Gotham literally cannot be fixed.
I have a serious question, who in universe knows about this? Because if Batman knows the city is irreparably cursed (why is it irreparable btw? There might not be quite as many high fantasy wizards running around as in marvel but there are still some, surely somebody could fix it) and doesn’t use his billions to relocate the population somewhere else, then he’s still the bad guy. If someone else knows about it and doesn’t tell Batman then they’re the bad guy.
Constantine is DC. There are no excuses. Granted, he’s probably more cursed than Gotham (being En*lish and all).
The excuse is that it’s a detective story that’s been running for nearly 90 years and wants to keep running for 90 more.
andrew carnegie literally wrote a book about how the point of doing philanthropy is to buy off rubes like you, and yet rubes like you still buy it. Amazing.
Dude, it’s comic books. People fly around in their underpants and shoot lasers from their eyes. The conceit of Batman is that yes, he’s nuts, but the Wayne’s have always been intense philanthropists. Like, actually “good” billionaires, also very comic books and just as likely in our world as laser eyed underpants flying people.
The current conceit is that it doesn’t matter what you do in Gotham, underwear or hundreds of billions in goodwill. It will consume you and any who exist in its domain.
Like, actually “good” billionaires
Hahaha, no such thing. How did they get their billions?
Where did the billions come from? 
The writers pen.
A batman comic book does not have realistic economic systems. Its all hand-wavy bullshit in-service of Batman flying around doing whatever.
Ok. Doesn’t sound like great world-building to me. There’s a reason I don’t like capeshit. But enjoy your crappy stories about a shitty billionaire and the unrealistic impossibly broken city he beats people up in.
idk sounds like you’re the one full of hand wavy bullshit
Sounds like pure ideology, you don’t need to uncritically accept the conceits of a setting.
The settings conceits shift at a whim, and have done so for 80+ years. They exist, then don’t. They all warp and change however is needed by whoever is needed.
At one point, a dude punches reality. Literally hits reality with his fists.
Its fine to argue about any art form, but I think the most pertinent critique of comics is that it’s art for capital. Any story element or setting is for sale in our world. Taking the inner world at any face value while ignoring that is pointless.
Uhh yeah that is my point
I read a lot of Batman and I don’t know what you’re referring to. I’m sure it’s established canon, but I feel like a lot of people write Batman that don’t consider “a curse on Gotham City” to be part of the mythology that they’re contributing to.
Within the story yes there’s “reasons” but I mean Batman as a literary/art piece commonly has very reactionary elements within it that puts it kinda on a pseudo Punisher level within the reactionary zietgiest, for example The Dark Knight Returns has a lot of critique towards commonly apped “liberal” tropes and the Robin of that universe went to go fight crime with Batman cuss her parents smoke pot.
The curse that makes Gotham dysfunctional is capitalism.
Yes, but it’s also an actual curse because of comic books.
Yes, and you see… capitalism is an actual curse.
Batman won’t let you die. He’ll just tie you up and send you to Arkham.
People who are too dumb to understand comic books are rooting for nuclear winter.
Hopefully we get solar fusion instead.
The trust fund billionaire with suit nipples.
The Joker is just trying to introduce a little mirth into the world, but that mean ol’ humorless Batman keeps stopping him.
Batman is also a billionaire; fuck that guy
And here we are buying all their shit. Another dress, yes sure, why not? Another gadget with rounded corners at a premium price, yes of course, take my money! More chocolate harvested by children won’t hurt me, GIVE IT TO ME! You mean to say this waste of material will make me popular? I want 10 of them! I can buy 100 of these and waste them in a video for clout, well that’s right up my alley. I’ll take 1000!
BTW, don’t forget, I can’t help out here, it’s the billionaires to blame for providing me access to all this.
There is no ethical consumption under capitalism. Start thinking about the WWII slogans like “use it up, wear it out. Make it do, or do without” because we are at war and we’re losing. Start growing a victory garden. Take away from the capital holders as much of your business as you can
