NewPipe
Revanced.
NewPipe.
Try Tubular, which is NewPipe plus SponsorBlock which makes the video watching experience even better. :)
Honestly, Newpipe gets blocked more often than just using browser. Probably because of they detected API calls or something.
I don’t think NewPipe uses yt’s API. yt-dlp certainly doesn’t. It’s kinda the whole point of these alternative frontends.
Try pipepipe, haven’t had it blocked ever for the couple yeara I’ve used it
I use it, great app but I have seen my VPN blocked every once in a while. I end up changing IP addresses three or four times before it works again.
That’s a YouTube problem, they block VPN connections for not logged in users
VPNs aren’t hard to detect, especially if you’re using a major service.
That seems like a failure on their part. Buy more exit IPs.
There’s a lot more than just recognizing known raw IP addresses used as endpoints.
One method larger services with CDNs use effectively is to use DNS for blocking. When you try to access a site, your DNS request will resolve to a server close to you, with your location determining the domain resolving to a different IP. Then the platform just responds to those requests from outside their normal area with a consistent message. No need to know whether it’s actually a VPN or not, the traffic is acting like it is and doesn’t really have much of a reason to do that normally.
Feel sorry for the guy in the datacenter using Netflix on his brake.
Must be hard to see all the way down in the foot well.
using Netflix on his brake.
Offering Xzibit some new ideas
Yo dawg, we heard you like Netflix so we put Netflix on yo brakes so when you brake you can watch Netflix, dawg,
Yo, we heard you like watching Netflix on your break, so we put big screen tvs on your brakes so you can watch Netflix on your brakes while on break.
100% this, I work in cyber sec and it’s very easy these days for services to detect this.
What about TOR browser?
That’s even easier. The list of exit nodes is public.
People don’t realize how much shit youtube/google ignores over time, for whatever reasons (but mostly because it’s cheaper to ignoer I’d guess). With most major consumer VPN providers, this is very easy to detect. Adblockers are easy to detect. Tampering with the website structure? Believe it or not, quite easy to detect when someone hide a component or change a title or a button.
If they decided to seriously get after people that circumvent geofencing, people that block ads, people that change the interface to their liking, or people that plainly use alternative websites, they could easily. And it would require far less effort on their end to keep things complicated than it would require on our end to keep things working at an acceptable level.
Sometimes I do get YouTube telling me that I need to disable my adblocker to access a video, so they do try to block that stuff (though I suspect that the infrequency with which this happens combined with the fact that not everyone does experience it when some people do report this happening suggests that they’re just testing methods of detection and blocking)
Usually when it happens, I just go into my Ublock settings and update stuff. I can’t remember that ever not working. It feels like a low-key arms race, in a cold-war kind of way
Only kind of true.
If they did implement all those measures, all you do is launch a puppet browser rendered off screen and scrape the content you want. This could work for any site and it is impossible for anyone to detect.
For ads, as a nuclear option, you can detect when they occur and black the stream out.
I would personally do this if left with no other option.
Cue detection of “realistic” human activity on the UI and preventing streaming if the server determine this activity does not match a human enough pattern.
I’m exaggerating on that one, but… that’s not even that implausible these days.
My point was, dancing this dance with “big website”, whoever it is, will always be an endless uphill battle.
They can’t do that because of accessibility reasons. If they did that, a disabled person has grounds to sue them for proper aria hints & controls.
It doesn’t matter what kind of content it is, either. It must be made accessible.
Uh. I don’t know how it is on the other side of the ocean, but around here, it’s a nice goal, but there’s much more care going into making messes than implementing accessible websites. Even official government services sometimes just barely slaps an “accessibility conformity: partial/none” and keep going on.
I’m not sure having an accessible web is enough to overcome the thirst for ad money and control.
I’ve been getting a “You must sign on to see this content” from YouTube (refusing to play the video if I don’t) for ages when I’m behind a VPN, but if I disconnect the VPN and try again I don’t get it.
Curiously, sometimes it doesn’t happen.
I guess YouTube has a list of IP addresses of VPN exit points and will do that if it detects a connection coming from one of those, but at least for my VPN provider some exit points are not in the list.
With TOR i don’t have problems on youtube, somehow
Isn’t TOR a bit too slow to watch videos in YouTube?
Idk, for me it works well, i have almost the same latency and speed as if i wasn’t using it, maybe because their nodes are near me, Dunno, but i live in europe and there are a lot of people and nearby countries so it may be
I’m in Europe too and my experience with TOR is not quite the same.
Then again I’m in one the more peripheric bits of Europe and not surrounded by countries were people run TOR nodes, so TOR probably more bottlenecked than in a more central place in Europe.
That said, surfing behind a VPN (which I pay for) plus provides me the level of privacy which I need at the moment.
I am near France, Austria, Swiss and not too distant from germany too, so i suppose i have a couple of nodes nearby
I encounter VPN blocks everywhere frequently. I usually just reroll my selected server until the block goes away
What kind of content? The ones with fake thumbnails, red/yellow arrows and circles and exaggerated faces that look like the creator is about to suck down the biggest dick they’ve come to know?
I needed to fiddle around with YouTube a lot, so it won’t try to shove mediocre Pewdiepie clones but Hungarian (or more recently, Hungarian chud slop) down my throat.
Listen at this point, we either re-upload our favorite creator’s content to other platforms. Convince them to join alternatives or help out their replacements on thise alternative platforms to grow.
Either way I do not respect content-creators that do not support alternative platforms (& decentralization) on principle
I vote for all of what you said
Listen at this point, we either re-upload our favorite creator’s content to other platforms. Convince them to join alternatives or help out their replacements on thise alternative platforms to grow.
I am with this, tired of using a yt frontend to watch videos (sometimes real website) and no reuploads nor have alterntives
VPN ads seriously need to stop promising that you can get around content restrictions.
Or they need to do a better job at getting around content restrictions
Yeah they need to start rotating egress ips regularly. It’s a cat and mouse game
People should educate others on how to get content not available in their area for fee without the hassle.
If media isn’t available in your area, then the company is telling you they don’t want your money. There is a $0.00 loss to them if you pirate it.
Unless you calculate it using the Nintendo formula, in which case you owe them $3 million.
Which is why there needs to be better pushback “Okay, so where exactly are you selling a functional SNES cart that I can plug into my SNES and play?” as an example.
I’m not sure how that pushback can be applied. It’s not a legal argument that I am justified in stealing something if you won’t sell it to me. Although, at the same time, I don’t know what basis they have for claiming damages.
The pushback would be when they cry about monetary losses for something they literally don’t even sell anymore. Is this not why they’re always trying to take down ROM sites?
Yeah the damages don’t make sense. They might be able to press other changes.
What’s the lawyer speak for “Skill issue, just use a time machine” again?
youtube sucks ever since googol bought it. I cannot believe people still use it.
Google bought YouTube in like 2006. I liked it before they bought it, sure, but I would be hard pressed to say it’s been all downhill after the first year.
Oh, so what they’re really saying is that a platform owned by GOOGLE has trouble FINDING the best content?
Everyone knows.
If you find what you’re looking for the first time, they can’t serve you as many ads.
Can’t argue with that, there goes my oneliner 🤣
Tip: Peertube Companion is a good extension for directing you to duplicates of the video you’re trying to watch if it can be found elsewhere.
I mean… detecting (some) VPNs is as trivial as
fetch('https://github.com/NazgulCoder/IPLists/raw/refs/heads/main/output/vpn-ipv4.txt').then( res => res.text() ).then( res => console.log( res.includes( "1.2.3.4" ) ) )thanks to https://github.com/NazgulCoder/IPLists/
FWIW though I did try, connected via a random VPN from ProtonVPN from Argentina… and it wasn’t in that list. So it’s not perfect. Also ProtonVPN has apparently today 13K servers according to https://protonvpn.com/vpn-servers
That being said I can imagine that Google, which is literally built on crawling the Web, has all the infrastructure and expertise needed to have such lists and up to date ones.
I’m not justifying blocking VPN here, only trying to clarify that unless you self-host in a rather specific setup (i.e. not relying a popular cloud provider but truly self hosting) it’s technically not hard to block VPNs.
Yeah, detecting the VPN isn’t really difficult at all. VPN providers sometimes try to cycle through IP addresses to make it harder, but there’s only so much they can do.
This isn’t really noteworthy, especially when you consider how many services require a sign in when you’re on a VPN anyways. It’s shitty, but not really surprising; They want to be able to tie your traffic to you, not just to a random VPN server. Hell, even without signing in, they probably have your browser fingerprinted. If you’re privacy focused, you probably have a lot of privacy based extensions, in a privacy based browser. And that makes you easy to fingerprint.
Understanding is the first step to fighting draconian policies.
Many websites now just block a large range of cloud and VPS services in order to reduce DDOS from AI crawlers. For youtube and reddit you can still access if you are logged in though.
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Because all the videos are still there.
If that seems like a self-perpetuating problem, it’s because it is.
