• rbesfe@lemmy.ca
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    4 months ago

    Canadian politicians have never heard of this thing called “optics” before. It’s a very isolated and fart-sniffing group of people

  • Rentlar@lemmy.ca
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    4 months ago

    There was two mentions of Charlie Kirk, in a speech that I’d say was focused on condemning political violence, in a mostly non-partisan way. I’d like to think that in Canada we’re above using weapons to prove a point. If we need to beat back the intolerant we’ll do it in an enormous show of non-violent force like Torontonians just did at Christie Pits.

    https://toronto.citynews.ca/2025/09/15/police-outline-charges-after-numerous-arrests-at-opposing-immigration-rallies-at-christie-pits/

    Anyway the speech is what I’d expect from a Conservative, but it’s nuanced enough that I get behind the primary message being conveyed.

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      4 months ago

      That all said, those celebrating Kirk’s death are as much simply expressing themselves as Charlie Kirk was, when he was denigrating immigrants and those that didn’t fit the ideal Aryan description

      And we should also publicly denounce people threatening journalists and professionals like Rachel Gilmore, who had been simply lamenting the appetite for escalation that would come from those seeking retribution, but this was wildly interpreted as a celebration and now is facing a constant barrage of death threats. Which only proved her point btw.

    • FireRetardant@lemmy.world
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      4 months ago

      My queer, female co-worker was mourning him and binge watching his content recently. I mentioned i was surprised she would listen to him given his views and she basically rebuttaled “uhm actually he does respect women, see he interviewed some porn stars and only fans girls.”

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          She’s welcome to listen to what she wants, i was just surprised the respect she had for him given he wants a world where she wouldn’t have rights.

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            3 months ago

            So she’s stupid just like the minorities who cited for Trump. I’ll never understand them.

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    Why are my tax dollars being used to give a racist, bigot, fascist and all around waste of human life a standing ovation?

    This is utterly ridiculous to a country as diverse as Canada that I would think overwhelmingly disagrees with the hate Kirk spewed out of his filthy pie hole.

    They want to mention that political views shouldn’t turn violent, great. But don’t waste my money on mourning an absolutely horrific person with a standing ovation. This pathetic human doesn’t deserve anything except that grave he’s now being dumped into.

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        3 months ago

        They could have made the speech without mentioning him or mentioning others. How come no speech when two Democrats politicians shot? How come only when some conservative asshole who isn’t even a politician?

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    4 months ago

    Me when I read the headline: DAFUQ

    Me when I read the article: oh, ok.

    Me when I realized it was yahoo: God damn me for falling for click bait.

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      4 months ago

      Thr moment I saw thr link I thought “This has GOT to be really shitty bait.”

    • mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca
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      3 months ago

      yeah see the thing about this is that most people would say that good stuff

      but good people don’t also say the bad stuff

      and anybody who thinks somebody is good solely because they said some good stuff is a fucking idiot, you have to consider the bad and change your view accordingly (like hopefully that woman did). but most maga nutjobs aren’t rn, they just ignore what they don’t like

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        Of course he isn’t a good person, he is a fucking Nazi and deserved what he got

        I think the point is that just about everybody who thinks this was a good guy is like a Christian; they’ve only been fed the positive parts and blurps, and are wholly ignorant of the dark side of the subject because they were never shown what it really was about

        I think we need to continue posting his real messages

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          What is with all this ‘deserved what he got’ insanity? I know it’s the internet and all, but calm down. He was a person, flawed just like the rest of us. He had views that many of us found disagreeable, just like everyone else.

          Black people are upset that he died, gay people are upset that he died, trans people are upset that he died; why? Because he wasn’t some evil extremist calling for violence. He was a moderate and calling for debate.

          Where is all this hate towards Kirk coming from? And please don’t cherry pick a handful of out of context quotes. There are thousands of hours of video discrediting all these random quotes people are using to showcase his villainy.

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    4 months ago

    I hope somebody is keeping a list of all these people because it’s straight up a list of fascists.

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    Misleading title. Yes, Charlie Kirk’s assassination sparked a conversation about the importance of free speech and diss owing political violence. The standing ovation was not for Charlie, but for the outcome of that speech.

    Still, you’d think they’d at least TRY to be reasonable with the optics of the conversation.

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      But isn’t what Kirk did constitute as hate speech here in Canada. We don’t have freedom of speech, we have freedom of expression.

      He didn’t deserve to die but he was toxic in every sense of the word.

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      4 months ago

      They don’t seem interested in optics given their other clown behaviour of inviting PJ2025 galaxy brains to speak behind closrd doors.

      Canada didn’t cancel on them from backlash. The garbage people they invited did.