I choose to believe chestnuts are lazy.
I think it’s mostly that particularly poor common grammar drives me nuts. Like, there’s no excuse to not know the difference between you’re and your. Once could be a mistake or a typo, but if it’s a pattern of behavior you’re just not trying. Get your shit together. :)
I definitely judge people on grammar and spelling. If you can’t be bothered to learn your native language, then I can’t be bothered to decode your shitty writing.
On Lemmy it’s hard to know if it’s their native language or not, be forgiving!
Mistakes like “you’re” vs “your” are generally not made by people learning English as a second language unless they’ve only learned by speaking (in which case, I’d expect all their spelling to be a mess given that English is a mess). Same with “could of” instead of “could’ve”.
Ha! How much time have you got?
Shallow and pedantic is my speciality.
But for the sake of brevity I’ll simply say that hearing (or reading) less in cases where fewer would be more appropriate is like driving an ice pick into my brain.
Yes…both are technically correct, but I have to fight the urge to be that guy whenever I hear it.
My stupid mental trick for keeping these straight: fewer potatoes means less mashed potatoes.
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They’re not interchangeable. ‘Fewer’ is for countable nouns and ‘less’ is for aggregate nouns, just like ‘how many’ and ‘how much’.
E.g:
Aggregate:
“How much sand? Less sand.”
Countable:
“How many grains of sand? Fewer grains of sand.”
Along with that, I’ll add in “number” vs “amount”:
- A shocking number of people get this wrong (countable)
- The amount of confusion about it is distressing (aggregate)
Oh believe me, I know. I agree.
but the argument nowadays is that common usage dictates that both are now “acceptable”, similar to how apparently “literally” now effectively means “figuratively” because everyone uses it.
Less could historically be used in any case and still can today. The distinction was first suggested by a guy a couple hundred years ago.
I reject your reality and substitute my own.
Socks and slides is only acceptable footwear for taking the bin to the kerb or checking the mailbox. If you’re wearing them in public I immediately assume you are a classless dumbass and your opinion on anything is irrelevant.
Agree, same with wearing sweatpants, if you are not doing actual sporting activities
This is shallow, but not pedantic.
I’ve never seen the word ‘slide’ used like that here. I was debating over whether it was something more sock-like or more like a slip-on shoe or sandal before googling it.
I feel attacked
I choose socks and sandals over proper footwear in order to demonstrate this. It keeps people’s expectations lower and makes life easier.
Sometimes I just wanna wear an outfit that makes people laugh and smile…
This is fair.
More like pet peeves, and not something I’d lose my sleep over, but they’re hilariously pedantic. I’ll focus on Latin because I’d rather not pick on existing linguistic communities.
⟨V⟩ and ⟨U⟩ are not different letters in Latin. Deal with it. The “right” way to use them is like this:
- Upper case - ⟨V⟩, always
- Lower case - ⟨u⟩ or ⟨v⟩, pick one, but don’t mix them
People fāiling to follow the əbove ɑre æs ənnoying æs someone insistently respelling English ⟨A⟩ with rændom junk bāsed on the sound. Like I æm doing now.
Same deal with ⟨I⟩ vs. ⟨J⟩. J’m not gojng to stop you from dojng so, but you can almost hear my “tsk, tsk, tsk” from a djstance.
There’s one way to pronounce Latin ⟨C⟩. It’s /k/ (as in “skill”). If you use /tʃ/ (as in “chimp”), /ʃ/ (as in “shampoo”), /ts/ (as in “cats”), /s/ (as in “silly”), you’re doing it wrong. Unless you’re handling Late Latin, but then follow some consistent set of rules dammit, not just “I use Latin like the Church does”.
“Veni, uidi, uici” is supposed to be pronounced ['we:ni: 'wi:di: wi:ki:]; or roughly “WAY-nee WEE-dee WEE-kee”. Once you pronounce it with random stuff like “vany VD vaitchy”, you’re wrecking all its alliterative appeal.
Speaking on that, Brutus is an unsung hero for going all stab-stabby against the guy who said the above. A shame that nobody did it against his adoptive child.
How did you get the pointy brackets?
⟨Like this⟩? I edited my .XCompose file to include shortcuts for those. Here are the relevant lines:
<dead_acute> <h> : "⟨" <dead_acute> <j> : "⟩"So I type acute+h/j and get them.
Here’s the full file if interested. Be warned that it’s biased towards Linguistics stuff.
A power supply, the thing that gets plugged into AC mains power and outputs some sort of DC (usually USB now) to power electronics is not a “charger”. It (usually) doesn’t know anything about charging batteries, and connecting its output directly to a Li-ion battery would lead to an explosion. The charger is integrated into the device receiving that power.
“Portable battery” is a terrible term to describe a USB powerbank. Thousands of battery types are portable, but don’t have USB ports or output exactly the right voltage. Some powerbanks are sold without batteries.
My kid calls USB cables “chargers”. My sister witnessed this for the first time, turned to me (known techie and pedant) and was like “You’re okay with this?”
Germany did not invent döner kebap and it’s insane that they claim that. Anyone who insists on it displays a tragic lack of understanding about what a kebab even is and should be ashamed of themselves.
What they did invent is their own way of preparing and serving döner kebab, an existing dish that is itself a variation of other existing dishes that came before it. In the kebab world, that’s not only allowed but also basically encouraged. Everyone is welcome to modify dishes to their heart’s desire. There are countless kebab dishes in Turkish cuisine that are nothing more than slight variations on existing dishes. What you should do after creating your own variant, however, is to also give it your own name to mark the difference. That’s what the Germans have not done. They’re continuing to use the name of a dish they did not invent. That’s a bit of a dick move. Seriously, look up Antep kebab and Urfa kebab. They’re essentially the exact same thing except one is hot and the other is not. Yet they have different names, because that’s how it’s done.
The German döner kebab is a distinctly different thing than the “real” döner kebab. According to the long standing kebab traditions, it must be given its own name. Otherwise no, döner kebab was most certainly not invented in Germany. Name it something else and make a proper claim. It would even help enrich your exceptionally poor and boring cuisine a little bit.
By Germans you mean ethnic Turks who made it and marketed it as such to ethnic germans?
I mean I get your point but the naming here is part of marketing IMHO German Turks made it for local market while keep “exotic” name
Rebranding at this stage is futile lol this thing is more popular prolly than the Turkish original lol
It is true that it was a Turk that marketed it as such, but it’s mostly the Germans that are so insistent on claiming it’s a German invention. The only Turks I’ve seen that weren’t largely indifferent were those who made and sold the stuff, but even the non-döner-worker Germans can be weirdly militant about it especially after a few drinks.
In any case, why it was named that is irrelevant to the point. Which is that we’re being pedantic in this thread and, strictly speaking, the name is wrong. It is in gross violation of the unwritten döner naming conventions. But obviously I’m not holding my breath for any official rebranding.
The way most people in my region pronounce the words “jewelry” and “realtor” really annoys me. I’m in the tiny minority who pronounces them the way I do, so I never ssy anything. But the locals almost all add a “LUH” to the middle. It’s an extra syllable that just isn’t in the spelling.
They say jew-LUH-ree and ree-LUH-ter. I pronounce these jewel-ree and reel-ter. I’m absolutely delighted when I hear someone say them the “correct” way, like I do.
Similar thing for how most around here say the year. When people say “two thousand and twenty-four” it grinds my gears. Just say “twenty twenty-four”, FFS.
I’ll even accept “joolry”.
I have a friend that pronounces it as “jury”.
The Rural Jeweler
Do you consider your reeltor more correct than re-ul-tor?
Ree-ul-tor is fine. It’s people who say “rea-LUH-tor” that sound wrong to my ears. They put the “L” in the wrong place.
I thought for a long time it was actually spelled jewelery, just because I’d only ever heard people pronounce it wrong and i guess never saw it written down.
If I’m driving, and you throw a negative hand gesture at me, I’m going to follow you to see if you’re willing to throw that hand gesture directly in my face.
That might be less shallow and shows that I might have some anger management issues. Certainly pedantic though
Its always amazing to me that the middle finger means anything to anyone beyond playfulness. The only time it ever gets any kind of reaction from me is when its used jokingly/affably, which provokes only a smile and makes me fonder of the person cuz its like an inside joke
For me, my reaction can be a problem. If I keep it up, I’m probably going to get shot. However (and I’ll call it intrusive thoughts) there are so many people that think they’re protected by their armor (cars), but people never expect when other people strip their armor and go “Do it again”. About 80% of my interactions like that have ended with them Either saying they didn’t do that or they apologize. Both reactions tell me a lot about their character, but it also tells me a lot about my character…
The short and skinny of what has been proven to me, and what I can justify, people think they’re untouchable until the very last second where they know they aren’t untouchable. You treat everyone with courtesy and respect in ever aspect of your life, then there’s no problem. You think you’re more entitled than the next person, then you get what you deserve
Other people call that a hero complex, but me personally… I call that a hero complex haha
You are a fascinating person. I don’t mean that in a negative way.
I’ve certainly been called worse haha
Maybe you should read up on stoicism.
Allowing someone else’s action control your actions is a massive waste of time, let alone a great way to attract trouble.
Probably. And the biggest thing that convinces me to stand down is that they’re random strangers and don’t deserve my psychotic wrath. And me and the other people can thank my wife. She is the only one that can say something to bring me back to reality, but I don’t know what will happen if she’s not around
Seems to me you’re on a good path. Keep it up.
Sounds like you’re doing more damage to yourself than the stranger did.
Maybe… maybe not. I have a lot of rage built up in me that I haven’t been able to release in a healthy manner. Generally I can push it down, but, just like everyone else, I have my triggers and will absolutely unleash my rage and chaos wins. Sorry for the corny wording. It’s all I could think of haha
Settle down, Dennis Reynolds.
Had to search your reference. I hate Always Sunny
built up
release
push it down
unleash
This wording is troubling, and suggests that maybe you believe in the catharsis model of anger?
That’s where you believe that anger is “stored” somewhere and “builds up” over time, and must be let out in some “healthy” way later. The problem is, there is no healthy way to express deferred anger.
If you allow yourself some visceral reward for getting angry and fixating on that anger, what you’re doing is training your brain to look for excuses to become angry and stay angry, so that you can get that dopamine hit of “blowing off steam”. It feels like it works, cuz it feels good. But it creates a link between getting angry and feeling good.
Pay attention to whether you have structures in place which are rewarding you for getting angry, and try to replace them with less rewarding, less stimulating responses.
I appreciate your concern, but it’s not like that. I hate when I get that adrenaline spike because it immediately makes me feel like garbage. I get sudden hypoglycemia, and immediately need to eat something, and (since I just learned I have Polycythemia) my whole body gets gross and sweaty and red and overheated.
It’s just not a good time for me. I have a justification in my head of why I can go off like that, but it’s mine
Right on, friend. Take care. And I’m sorry you’re getting kind of a rough response to being so vulnerable here.
It’s just fake internet points. If people have a negative opinion about me, then that’s their mental energy to waste, but thanks for the support
This response is literally road rage. (Given the discussion about literally vs figuratively elsewhere in the thread, I genuinely mean literally).
Road rage is dangerous for you, the other driver, and other bystanders on the road. Please reassess how you respond to perceived aggressions and slights while driving. The only time you should escalate is if another road user is actively putting others in harm’s way (e.g. DUI) and even then the best course of action is probably calling your local authorities for them to handle the situation. If the situation is not severe enough to warrant a 911 call, your focus should be on de-escalation (before it turns into a situation that is).
Pretty sure I covered your whole comment with “I might have anger management issues”
And to me, no. It’s not just road rage. It’s the potential of belittling people because of what is most likely misunderstanding or miscommunication. Everyone is guilty of those daily, but if you treat people as a villian or a lesser because of what could be a misunderstanding, and physically express gestures, then how are with expressing those gestures in person. To me, most people treat others like that because they think they’re either infallible in the situation, infallible period, or they believe there are no repercussions to their actions. When I lose my temper, I go out of my way to prove them all wrong
There’s a huge difference between losing your temper when controlling a digital go-kart versus a real-life one-ton vehicle.
It’s a good first step that you recognize this is a problem, but it needs to be followed up with actions you can take when it occurs. In the case of driving, if your impulse is to follow the driver who pissed you off, you need to get off the road at the very first safe opportunity (a side street, a freeway exit, a parking lot, whatever) to give yourself a chance to cool down and both mentally and physically distance yourself from the situation. It doesn’t matter how much of a jerk the other party is (again, unless they are actively putting people in danger, in which case you should be pulling over to call emergency services); when you’re on the road the only thing you should be concerned with is your own behavior. There is zero justification for escalation; you are not teaching the other person a lesson, you are putting people’s lives at risk over a minor slight.
I used to work in transportation and you wouldn’t believe the horror stories. Please don’t underestimate how quicky and easily road rage situations can turn ugly; it’s never worth it.
Just because you called it out and this is a thread about pedantry: road rage is an idiomatic phrase, which is a type of figurative language. So, you were using literally to emphasize figurative language rather than try to clarify you weren’t using the idiomatic meaning of the phrase but rather a literal.
Weird thing is that I perceived that my statement was related to pedanticism. I’ll agree I’m not a pedantic in a traditional sense, but road rules and environment can potentially be pedantic because there are certain rules that need to be followed to ensure proper road etiquette. I.e. following distance, mental condition, speeding, lane discipline, and courtesy to other drivers
And I’m not questioning your intelligence, but pedanticism is a difficult word today. It means “the qualities of a pedant”
A pedant is a person obsessed with small details
I didn’t say your statement was pedantic. Just that you specifically called out your use of literally as not used in a figurative sense and that this thread in general is about pedantry. Those two things together made it seem not totally insufferable to point out that literal was actually being applied to figurative language.
Fair enough. You make a good point, and again, you are a very intelligent person. At no point were my intentions to insult that
Not shallow or pedantic, just psychotic.
Well. Then you should know you’re sharing the road with me
Oh I’m well-aware. You should know you’re a poison to society.
Been called a lot of things. Poison to society is a new one. So what exactly makes me poison?
People who think anyone uses literally to mean figuratively are annoying and too caught up in their crusade to realize their take is idiotic. No one uses it to mean figuratively. People use it to emphasize regardless of the figurative nature of language. It’s semantic drift that happens to most words that mean something similar to “in actuality” (e.g. really, actually). Even in other languages.
I think the definition has even been updated to reflect this.
Yeah. Dictionaries reflect popular usage. And I think literally has probably been in use in that sense nearly as long as it’s been used to mean something really did happen that way.
I find if more confusing than annoying, at times. If the emphasizing is getting on the way of being clear, you should maybe use some other way to emphasize it.
“I’m literally broke” shouldn’t be a statement open to interpretation, in my person opinion. The internet and lack of familiarity with strangers just aggravates the problem.
That’s a valid opinion. That they’re using it to mean “figuratively” is not.
Proper usage of ‘s.
Guy joined my team a few years ago and uses ‘s for literally everything, and now most of the team does it too.
It bothers me every time, and I’ve typed corrections into the message box so many times but never hit send.
uses ‘s for literally everything
literally everything
literally
I’ve got news for you.
Okay, honestly, I do have a choice each day about which tickets I work in which order, and ‘literally’ isn’t the only reason a ticket will be the Very Last one I schedule. There’s also ‘emails’, ‘the ask’, ‘the spend’, and a list of other pathetic Used Car Salesman words.
And I don’t want to stand in the way of people’s success; especially when they don’t know their nouns from their verbs and are just trying to get through the day before their crayons run out. But people who can use words property will get a bonus of being first.
Lmao, I actually debated whether to say “literally”.
I typically hate that word too. But I wanted to convey that it’s a constant thing, not a fluke. He thinks it’s a “literary rule”. So using “literally” seemed… “literally” appropriate.
Lmao
😣 Did you, @[email protected] ? Are we to believe that you have no ass, because of laughing?
At this rate, this thread is gonna become deep and pedantic.
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People who consider drinking alcohol and getting drunk “fun” are dangerous to be around.
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Visiting the US and expressing atheism is dangerous.
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I get annoyed at people who wait at pedestrian crossings but never push the button.
Are they waiting for someone else to push it because it’s beneath them? Do they think it has cooties? Do they secretly not want to reach their destination? Do they think the buttons are fake, and traffic engineers are waiting to laugh at them on hidden cameras?
All too often the buttons are just placebos to keep you waiting until the walk sign comes on anyway
Actually some crosswalk buttons are fake. For example:
In New York City, only about 100 of the 1,000 crosswalk buttons actually function
I am sometimes guilty of this. I incorrectly assume the lights are looping and I just have to wait my turn.
My current place is within one of those new ‘15 minute’ areas. So I walk everywhere I can.
The new pushbuttons let you wave your hand in front of them to trigger them.
People that say “ex cetera” instead of “et cetera” should be taken at their word.
I’ve noticed this in a lot of words watching youtube lately. Excape instead of escape, expecially, etc.
Me when I say “et cetera” in normal conversation
Ugh along the same lines, eXpresso drives me nuts.
I’ll level up the pedantry. In French, it’s spelled expresso but still pronounced with a “ss” sound because that’s how it works in French. So they aren’t just probably mispronouncing the Italian word, they’re also possibly misreading the French word.
You’re incorrect, “expresso” in French is pronounced /ɛk.spʁɛ.so/.
I’m a snobby barista, so I stick to the more Italian-like prononciation even when speaking French, but the French word expresso is pronounced as its written.
I’m inclined to listen to the three unrelated French people I know on the pronunciation. Idk, maybe a regional thing 🤷
I prefer ex chethera exclaimed with a fluorish
Professor Professorson?
Expresso
I wonder if
ex pressois latin for anythingIt’s not pendantic it’s wrong, espresso was invented in Italy so its meant to be… wait a minute!
If you insist on pronouncing “gif” as “gif” instead of “jif”, you should pronounce “jpeg” as “jfeg”.
