Good! The users add all the value to that site, moderate if for free and they couldn’t even not be cunts about it.
they want propaganda bots mostly now on reddit.
Good for whom?
There’s been loads of times where I’ve looked everywhere for a solution, finally finding it on google page 10+ in an obscure reddit thread with like 10 votes and 4 comments where someone had found a weird, illogical solution to your exact problem, that actually worked.
It’s a shame it went to shit. The real losers are us, we lost a lot of knowledge.
That doesn’t mean I think they should get to keep that stuff. Sure, we lost a lot of knowledge there, and that sucks. But the company lost out and pushed their IPO way back for it and I enjoy seeing Spez suffer after what he did to Aaron’s legacy.
If that’s how you feel, that’s how you feel. But I personally doubt Reddit as a company have lost out. They still have all the data. And they still have a massive user-base. I’m sure Spez is suffering real bad with his hundreds of millions…
I feel like they lost prestige more broadly but I’m obviously bias being here on Lemmy. We see I guess, I predict them tanking after their IPO.
Good. Separately, I really wish we had a way to search for useful answers on Lemmy. I feel like much of the reddit was exposed through: “question/key words” site: reddit.com googling
I mean, you can do pretty much that by using one of the largest instances. That is most likely to have content from the largest amount of other instances.
I get what you’re saying it’s just not as practical. Many won’t look for the largest/most relevant instance for their questions.
I made sure to remove all my posts before i left when they started blocking anonymous vpn users. 3 accounts across 15+ years all gone because of their stupid policies.
Whoa since when can you view removed comments?
libreddit instance allows you to do that. one I’m using right now: https://discuss.whatever.social/
note that you have to kinda bounce around from instance to instance as some will be great for a couple weeks then go away or crash and then you have to find another one.
I wished I’d deleted all my comments and posts before deleting my account.
Don’t forget they’re also selling all your freely provided content to AI scrapers as well. Fuck Reddit.
I wonder what happens to your account when you get banned
From what I can tell, it continues to exist, but you can no longer post. They’re not gonna just give up all that free data.
Cool they can have all my toxic hatred against Republicans for their AI to learn from
shadowban will however keeps your posts hidden from the public, but not from reddit itself.
Believe it or not, straight to the AI farm.
They will just put them back. Your stuff isn’t really deleted.
How is it possible to view deleted comments?
Redlib (alternative front-end to Reddit) puts a link to undelete for removed comments. undelete.pullpush.io
I didn’t mean to ask how one can view the comments. I meant to ask how it’s possible at all in the first place.
Iirc using the ‘delete’ button just does the equivalent of breaking the link to a picture. The data is still there.
This is why, during the mass exodus, many people were sharing scripts to edit your comments with random words before deleting them. Because deleting them leaves the content available in the database, but editing actually overwrites the data. So even if Reddit later decides to undo the deletions, (which they did), then they’ll just be a bunch of gibberish undeleted comments.
Awesome!!! Post your questions here instead
What kind of a boy is spez?
A greedy little piggy boy
A reliable source tells me Spez likes to diddle kids and has a micropenis.
Psst hey kid he’s also a lil piss boy.
The fascist kind. A lot of high karma accounts got banned for no reason this last year. Destroying their own creation. Sad.
Cool it with the antifa remarks.
The anti fascist remarks?
Do you have a problem with anti fascists?
its a meme, bro get a grip
Learn to communicate please
Anything for you baby
Why? so it can be found in search engines when people are looking for answers? Sadly, Lemmy is terrible for searching for answers. Lemmy will likely never replace the true benefits of reddit, search engine indexing for solutions.
Who cares about the search engines? Ask your questions here and get an answer. It just takes longer
Have you ever been on a forum? Like even once? Sort by New and you’ll find dozens of posts where the thread is shitting all over someone for asking something that has already been asked before.
We are in a forum right now dude lol.
But yeah I know how it can be you just need to find a friendly place. Like here!!
When Reddit’s API debacle happened lots of people moved away. Some deleted their comments, some edited them with a message in protest. But sadly the consequences is that a lot of history and useful information got lost in the process.
I don’t know how I feel about this. I understand why it’s done and even why it needs to be done, but it still makes me sad considering the amount of times where Reddit saved me from massive headaches with IT stuff and so on…
The sad part of it is that they (reddit) can still access that deleleted information and sell it for AI training. Even as a “power” user you can use websites that “undelete” that content. The only ones truly affected by this are people randomly browsing reddit.
I mean it does reduce the value of the content that users created on reddit if a ton of random comments were deleted in protest. Every time you hit a thread like the OOP it reduces reddit 's value to the individual, and in aggregate it reduces reddits value
Did you actually read my comment? That’s an issue casual users have. If you want to see deleted comments, there’s a way to do that.
The only thing that actually hurts reddit is if people stop using it an generating new content.
Reddit undeleted a lot of the content removed during the API debacle. This comment must have been after that because you can see the latest comment is post API changes.
That’s why I didn’t close my account and still do a new turn of mass edits every 2-3 months. I have nothing deleted, just constantly overwritten. I get regularly banned from some subreddits after each wave, probably because some comments may trigger some sort of spam detection and edits alert the mods then.
reddit can detect if you did massedit as suspicious activity, a normal person cant change multiple comments at once, but with a script they will see it as botting.
As someone who deleted their posts… yes. The goal was to make Reddit worse, by removing my contributions to it because they forgot where their value came from.
My content had some small value to them. They didn’t deserve it.
I hope they delete all your stuff when your account gets banned because I’ve left at least three of those in my wake
I believe they are still there but hidden.
Quite possibily it depends on the type of ban you received (e.g. spam vs inflicting harm on xyz)
I know better than to threaten people online. It was all stupid political bullshit.
That’s not really what I meant.
What I was trying to say is no ban is equal. Reddit may very well have nuance to bans they can utilize that will prevent you from just participating in comments/upvotes to full on shadow-bans.
They don’t delete your content, they just redact your username and disassociate each individual comment from your larger profile so nobody could, for example, click on the deleted user who posted a comment in r/abc and see they also posted a particular comment in r/xyz.
The reason tools like Redact (many of them all use this same name lol) have taken off in popularity is because they delete, or redact the contents of your posts before you delete the account, thus making even that vestigial data worthless.
Its not guaranteed. They may keep a copy of the original post around.
In fact, anyone could
I’m fairly certain they do not
Cool they can have all my toxic hatred against Republicans for their AI to learn from
I hear these justifications a lot, but the conclusion doesn’t follow from the premises.
The value of the archival data that can be affected by deleting or editing is almost entirely only user-accessed value. Reddit isn’t harmed at all from the edits. It primarily needs active regular users to improve its stock value. Alternatively, it can sell archival data for AI training.
Editing old comments removes neither value source from Reddit. You moved away from it so deprived it of both the material value of new comments and the statistical value of being an active user. Reddit also assuredly has saved data from before the API issue and can likely spot and clean the mass edits to sell the data from training purposes.
Conversely, the value to users and society is high. So many solutions to problems that are gone forever. The Internet is decaying already and it gets harder to find useful information, and those leaving decided to just burn down a library of Alexandria.
It’s their - and your - right, sure. They’re by definition done on comments the user owns. But this is just punching desperate Internet users in the face hoping it gives Reddit a bloody nose.
Would you sign up for a social media website if all the tech support posts looked like the above?
This. Good points above an all, but they missed this being the main point. imo
I wouldn’t sign up for a social media website if all the useful posts were from before June, 2023.
That’s why the people deleting their posts also stop posting
the highest value content, is mostly political anyways, its draws in more money for a platform, because users are addicted ragebait.
those leaving decided to just burn down a library of Alexandria.
More like I had my book taken off the shelves because the librarians are dicks
Ah, where are those books now? Which shelves can I find them on?
I get the metaphorical point, but it’s a point without effect. “Removing with no possible present or future access” is the same as “burning” for society’s purposes.
where are those books now?
Lemmy
You’ve reposted all of your deleted Reddit comments to Lemmy?
Nope, all new comments. Better comments. If you miss the old ones, well sorry but it’s weird that you’re trying to claim ownership over my thoughts and self expression. I don’t owe you or the internet a damn thing.
If that were true, then why did Reddit respond to the mass deletions (that’s what people did at first, not edits) by undeleting the comments?
Yup, Reddit fucked us all after we gave them our knowledge for free.
Trick people into thinking they’re contributing to a commons, steal the contributions and run. Very understandable that many people decided to retaliate after the betrayal.
I really hope decentralized knowledge bases take off. Aggregating niche knowledge from experts and non-experts everywhere the internet touches is such a valuable proposition!I had like one useful comment posted to Reddit. I’ve left it up, and once every few months I get a comment being appreciative for the info.
Reddit gets the traffic because of Google indexing the original post of a user with the problem. People are going to visit it regardless of whether they’ll find the answer or not. In fact, if they don’t find it, they’re more likely to keep browsing posts in the hope of finding something.
Is this post better suited for c/mildlyinfuriating or c/fuckingawesome?
I know it’s great that Reddit is getting less useful but it’s still infuriating that I can’t find any help on very specific issues where the only answer was that one deleted comment/post.
Oh yeah, I sympathize with that problem. I have no sympathy for Reddit though. We all should have invested our time in something that had the users’ best interests in mind. Something like the fediverse.
Remember to occasionally search for “site:reddit.com [your username]”.
I really need to go back and delete all my posts, I just dropped it and never went back.
I used Redact a while back. Super easy. First replaced everything with filler text, then deleted. Just in case mods have auto-rollback for deletion.
You‘re harming people looking for help and support more than you harm Reddit.
Which harms Reddit more than anything, as people will look elsewhere.
And Reddit took people’s goodwill to give free advice their and generate revenue from it for granted.
Reddit already only allows Google to scrape them now, so as far as I am concerned it is a dead site. Removing my comments is worth it to not feed the monopoly that is Google.
50% of the site is basically bots/propaganda bots. people dont realize they are responding to bots most of the time.
It’s a pain in the ass to do it manually. I used this script and it helped a lot.
just say something that will you get you banned and they will delete all your comments and posts and your profile. they will appear as
[deleted]. much easier tbhI had to manually delete my account when I got banned
they will appear as deleted, but they are not really deleted, they still have them in the database and still make money selling them 🤷♂️
make sense if reddit is a AI whore, and wants the money, what better way to have extra content from delete comments.
would redact solve this?
I do wonder how much they soft delete stuff, so they can keep the data to sell. Also if they keto a history, do even if you manually delete/edit, do they have a copy on a server somewhere?
Not sure about edits, but its highly likely they still have every deleted post. Text is small and highly compressible, so there’s no reason to delete it. So it makes more sense to keep it to sell later.
Does that help the fight? I was under the impression that they got to keep all the old info
What I did was mass edit all my comments. According to reddit customer support (about a year ago at the time), they do not retain old versions of edited comments.
They do, but it makes the site less useable for people, which is a win
its pretty hostile to new users, since it sees a new acc as potential spam. reddits goal is to become like FB, just run by bots, but importantly propaganda bots, so less effor to deal with users.
Yea, this kind of problem is only going to get worse I expect.
I set up self-hosted linkwarden the other day to try to avoid this going forward.
Oh god it’s happening here too
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This account has been anonymized with Lemmact.
Yea I have libredirect running to show me reddit stuff on alt front ends should I click a link that usually goes to it, but when talking about linkwarden I meant to make it in reference to preventing link-rot for anything in general on any site in the future as well, not just reddit.
I just use ChatGPT.
May as well burn the planet while you’re being lied to, sure
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This actually isn’t necessarily censorship. This is more likely users deleting their comments when moving away from Reddit to… Surprise! Lemmy.
Back during the big move people made a lot of scripts and apps to do that for them and my unpopular opinion is that its been not a good thing to do. Unless they archive their answers somewhere else it is lost knowledge. I know I am pretty alone with that view so please don’t start a discussion again, I won’t reply.
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Yeah, I get so pissed when people nuke their comment history. Why do that when you don’t have too much of personal revealing information in that post or comment? Even one of the mods of AskHistorians expressed frustration of insightful posts and comments being deleted by OP. I did not even delete any of my posts before I deleted my Reddit account, because there are no revealing information, and I know some of my posts and comments will be helpful for others.
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You may disagree with the net effect of the decision, but the decision is not hard to understand. The people that are doing it are placing a larger value on harming Reddit as a platform to hopefully force corrective change or encourage movement to competing platforms. You place a larger value on preserving knowledge.
You say you get pissed. My question is do you get pissed at the person who deleted it, or do you get pissed at Reddit for alienating it’s own users to the point of deleting their own comments?
I have just read other people’s comments as to why Redditors delete their comments. But even before the enshitiffication, I and others find it frustrating when comments are deleted.
I do too. But I blame Reddit for that, not the users.
censorship and being censured as well.
Don’t look at what’s been happening with the stock price.
I’m trying to get the image of spez wanking to that price graph out of my head.
