A gun helps. Walk slowly and carry big gun
perhaps, but what’s in it for me?
a nice ‘thank you’ from bottom of my heart.
hb that? pretty please…
Yeah, you definitely need help negotiating
yep… lol
Silence is a weapon. People don’t like awkward pauses and will talk to fill in the gap and sometimes they end up putting their foot in their mouth.
I use this all the time. At some point in my life I just stopped being uncomfortable with silence, but it drives most people mad.
And it’s not just useful in terms of having an “opponent” stew in some social discomfort.
Use it to take a moment to think. Use it to give the other party time to think. Use it to let your most recent words hang in the air and gain more weight. Etc.
This gal has a channel devoted to things like this, particularly in regards to career-related settings. Lots of good advice here:
Perhaps, what are you offering in return?
You tell me your best recipe and I’ll tell you a negotiation tip.
There are two rules you need to know in negotiations. First, never lay all your cards on the table.
This is an article I always reference for job offer negotiations, but the principles would apply to negotiation in general. The most important concept to understand is: you can split a pot between two parties in ways that result in both of you getting more of what you want.
is it like win win solution?
From The One Sentence Persuasion Course by Blair Warren: “People will do anything for those who encourage their dreams, justify their failures, allay their fears, confirm their suspicions, and help them throw rocks at their enemies”
I’ve found this helpful when trying to convince anyone of anything. The book breaks it down more, of course, but is probably not worth reading Vs the various summaries you can find online.
My summary, at least what I took from it is that you must try to understand the person you are negotiating with/pursuading. Figure out what they want, or what they’re afraid of, and offer that.
What’s it worth to me?
Fuck no give me a reason to.
https://se-radio.net/2016/11/se-radio-episode-275-josh-doody-on-salary-negotiation-for-software-engineers/ (not specific to software engineers)
The Art of Being Right https://a.co/d/g6Wj4fs
I did contract negotiations for a while. Something that I always remember being told was “you can’t be more excited to sign than the other person”. It’ll lead to you making bad deals. If the other side doesn’t want to sign, neither do you.
My boss always said he preferred no contract over a bad contract. I once suggested that even a contract that pays out a bit is better than nothing. He countered by saying there’s an opportunity cost in fulfilling a contract. We could be too busy fulfilling poor contracts that we have no time to negotiate and accept good ones. In that case, a poor contract could be seen as less valuable than nothing. I’ve had negotiations that lasted less than 15 minutes. I give a standard quote, they’d lowball, I’d say there’s no way, they said they’d leave, I say here’s the door. Done.
