Does anyone else think trump could be a puppet of the “regular” American government workers? As if what’s happening now is that trump is getting used as a tool to clean America up so that it will eventually be easier to control. Trump is the bad cop in a good cop bad cop set up and he is just used to take the brunt of the backlash while “real” America is using him as tool to get America to a point it has more power over citizens? By real America I mean FBI or CIA or whatever. It’s like trump is being used the same as we manipulate and use leader of other countries when we want to get more power over them.

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    Trump’s name is almost certainly all over the Epstein files. I think there’s an argument to be made that using a tool like that puts you firmly in the “bad guy” camp.

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    I can’t say it’s impossible but, I highly doubt that the CIA and FBI are secretly pulling any strings in government.

    Might as well try blaming it on the DMV or Social Security office.

    No point in blaming government departments (which are typically just thousands of people trying to do the job they were hired to do) when we already have evidence of what the Heritage Foundation and Putin are doing to influence the orange toolshed.

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    There is no such things as good or bad guys it’s all a matter of perspective, the Taliban-like Christians and the billionaire believe they’re the good guys

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      Does Steve Bannon believe this stuff?

      I think the fed use people like him. Just another scape goat while they do their thing.

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    No. Trump is aligned with people who align with his dictatorial ambitions, and right now he’s aligned mostly with oligarchs, crypto bros, Peter Theil (the antichrist), Netanyahu, Viktor Orban, and Steven Miller. The flavor of the group here is theft from the American people to fund concentration camps and brown shirts. Oligarchs and Crypto Bros are the tool to extract money both to himself and from the public, Peter is the tool to conduct the witch hunts and provide cover, Netanyahu provides the testing grounds (west bank and gaza), Viktor provides the blueprint of dictatorial conversion from democracy, and Steven provides the cruelty. None of these people are controlling Trump away from his ambitions of a police state and that’s why they’re still around.

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      I don’t disagree agree with most of that… The only difference is I think there’s people above all of them.

      Have you seen the Century of Self documentary about the beginning of using psychology in government and marketing? It’s old and outdated but now things are more advanced. What’s in that documentary sounds true, and I wonder what it’s like in the modern day with algorithms, data mining, and ai.

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        I see no evidence or need for supposed people above, and they most certainly would not be in the now unfavored dept of intelligence. These people are all plenty capable of being this evil on their own unprompted, that’s why they’re in the roles they are. Evil doesn’t necessitate complexity, they feel comfortable enough to show their face because they feel their power is absolute and will not be challenged at this point.