• daltotron@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    If that legitimately happens and makes it into law in a broadly enforceable way rather than a “this person who I don’t like was caught checks notes watching porn! book em!”, which is definitely what it would be like basically every law that came before it, I guarantee that the government would collapse within about three weeks if less. Which I think is maybe a good rule of thumb, that if your law would collapse society if it were enforced equally, it should not be a law.

    Do not underestimate the power of the gooners when they are kept from the goon.

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      I guarantee that the government would collapse within about three weeks if less.

      Oh sure. Famously, whenever a worksite implements a blacklist on pornographic websites, the workers immediately begin screaming and flailing and eating each others faces.

      Do not underestimate the power of the gooners

      Generally speaking, the power of the gooner is to compile 500 TB of questionably legal pornographic data on a PLEX server in their basements and ride out the porn-pocolypse as a bunch of horny hermits.

      But the theory that this is going to be the last straw and hordes of angry horny dudes are going to take to the streets in a mass labor action is about as likely as the one where Tech Bros were going to take to the streets over Net Neutrality or women were going to have a sex boycott over the Abortion Ban or the hippies were going to tear down Wall Street over the drug war.

      Americans are shockingly pliant and far more prone to simply turn to black market cartels than actively resist policing.

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        I was being hyperbolic, but, a famous part of the prohibition was the organized crime which was both kind of naturally occurring at the time and was created specifically to traffic booze. Illegal material can’t be protected by legal means, obviously, and so in order to trade it, you basically have to create your own police force, your own privatized military. a gang, a mob. That’s how we got nascar and shit, the rumrunners. If you made porn illegal, I’d imagine it would just be added as kind of another form of valuable property which would be traded around by gangs which would see increased power and are kind of inherently anti-institutional. So, turning to black market cartels is a form of resisting policing, it’s a form of anti-institutional action, I’d say, as it gives more economic power to anti-institutional organizations.

        I’d also say, you know, I mean, the hippies did go to wall street in 2008, so that’s something. We had the big liberal feminist pussy hat shit sometime after that, which I’m not as familiar with. More recently we had BLM which was possibly the highest level of street marching we’ve seen basically ever, and then we’ve seen like two riots to try and overturn elections, one of which was successful. We’ve seen more recent campus protests which are still constantly ongoing despite a lack of media attention. I don’t think it’s as absurd as you think, that something kind of stupid like porn getting banned might be the tipping point, especially considering the pretty steady upward trend that we’ve seen with political action concerning other somewhat disconnected issues.

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          a famous part of the prohibition was the organized crime which was both kind of naturally occurring at the time and was created specifically to traffic booze

          Quite a few political families profited handsomely from alcohol prohibition. The Kennedys are probably the most famous, but the political system was rife with corruption. If you’ve ever watched Boardwalk Empire, the story was based on the notorious Atlantic City sheriff Enoch Johnson.

          So, turning to black market cartels is a form of resisting policing, it’s a form of anti-institutional action, I’d say, as it gives more economic power to anti-institutional organizations.

          The ability to selectively enforce prohibition gives you ample opportunity to profit from the gaps in the system. Sex work has long had a relationship with local politicians and police, and I have no doubt that criminalization of porn would create an huge market for kickbacks to enforcement organizations.

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      What part of “Pornography should be outlawed” don’t you understand. That also entails owning and viewing porn.

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        If it actually does entail owning and viewing porn then the quote should match the claim. The document is like 1000 pages, if its in there then it needs to be quoted in the graphic.

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        Outlawed isn’t equal to prison, it could be just a penalty fee, so it’s not like if you see pornography you will go to jail like OP make it look.

        Wokie sensationalism not too much different than west media propaganda tbh.

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          Holy fucking shit how have you not learned to shut your dumb redneck mouth after being downvoted of every one of your last 100 comments.

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          So, why should people be fined for watching porn? Why does christian puritan views be pushed to everyone? Party of small government my ass.

          “It’s not that bad” isn’t good enough. Why is that there, at all? Why should I somehow deserve to be in prison?

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        Sending nudes to your partner counts as production and distribution of pornography

        This obviously deserves the death penalty

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    nothing to hide nothing to fear and anti-2A mofos when they read any part of project 2025

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      No, like Prohibition, everyone will keep some around, and the laws will only be enforced against non-whites, non-Christians and uppity women. Oh and gays are right out.

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        probably will to some degree, one of the key defining traits of fascism is to make the in-group smaller and smaller

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          Only the ones that nobody liked anyway. The least useful part of the social group will get purged first. Always does.

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    the party of “small government,” once again, wants the government to police everything you do with your own junk