I know they’re going to say it is only jokes. Fuck that. I get y’all want to be edgelords, but this is the most dangerous thing that has happened this century. I would be surprised now if we make it to the end of the year without some people getting assassinated for real, and it will target overwhelmingly the leftest end of the spectrum.
Example, example, example. There are others.
Y’all are on the precipice of finding out firsthand the difference between “OMG I’m so oppressed, the police are racist and I’m struggling to pay my bills, civil war y’all” and “OMG I’m so oppressed, a gang of big violent fuckers with bats and boots and the support of the government just attacked my whole community, seriously hurt me, and burned part of my house down. They told us if they find us here tomorrow, they’ll kill us.”
Fascism is fascism: left, right, or center. Celebrating violence shows a weakness of character, and demonstrates that the violence wishers are really fascists happy to use violence to get their desired outcomes.
weakness of character is being a little pussy bitch instead of standing up to evil.
ok! your being evil. please be a better human being
incorrect
Wishing for people’s assassination is definitionally lawless and by extension morally evil.
lawful good bitch says what?
Ad hominem attack while tacitly admitting your unlawful evil, bold strategy.
Please be a better human, you don’t always have to be evil.
stfu pussy
They’re not against fascism. They’re against fascism from the opposing side. The level of hypocricy demonstrated in these comment sections is mind boggling.
100% agreed. It’s not violent authoritinarianism if we do it.
(Another commenter corrected my use of fascism, I think they’re correct, but this lacks the impact of fascism for violent oppression of political opponents)
I made nearly the exact same point in /c/news last week and got similarly downvoted to hell.
Seriously reconsidering whether Lemmy has the type of people I want to be associated with. I’ve definitely been increasing my rate of bans as of late.
Lemmy is effectively the left-wing equivalent of Gab or Truth Social. There’s a ton of extremists here, but they don’t see themselves as such because they believe their extremism is justified and that they’re on the right side of history. Ironically, that’s what all extremists think. Moments like this are the true test of one’s intellectual honesty. A rational, independent thinker should be able to condemn this kind of behavior even when it’s targeted towards their “enemies.”
The absolute hate for free speech I’ve encountered on Lemmy has also been perplexing, like it’s the whole point of a open federated platform. It’s the reason I blocked all the political communities, those discussions went nowhere with no ability to have a discussion deeper than sound bites repeated.
Yeah, I am only here to help Lemmy grow. I really have come to realize over this experiment that I’m not the right type of person for social media.
In the past year nearly 100 percent of my discussions with people I know have been productive.
On Lemmy it’s about 5%. I’ve tried blocking most of the political discussions, and memes and that helps. When I do find good conversation it’s rewarding, but the frequency is going down.
I mainly think that it’s because niche communities can’t grow sheltered on Lemmy, the tools aren’t there yet. Lemmy is so small and flat we end up having the same discussion over and over again. The main Lemmy zeitgeist is one I dont really agree with, and that might be the reason the conversations I value are so hard to have here.
Eh, it gives me some faith to still see the occasional individual making sense in the comment sections. I’ve blocked close to 800 people on Lemmy, and on average, I probably block 10 more each day. It feels like it’s not making much of a difference, but it must have some impact. If the number of users here were on par with Reddit, I’d just be wasting my time. However, considering Lemmy’s low user base and the fact that most comments are written by a small percentage of users, I still have faith that blocking those who are just making noise has to improve the signal.
For me, it serves two purposes: less content to browse, which means less time spent here, and the opportunity to engage in thoughtful conversations with the remaining sensible users, rather than partaking in a shouting match with everyone.
Well, I appreciate you being here. You’re a semi-rare voice of reason in a cacophony of nonsense.
I’m a Reddit refugee myself, and I came here expecting a similar crowd. They’re definitely here, and I’ve had many productive discussions, but I always end up having to swat away (read: block / ban) the 'chan-type crowd that just wants to stir the pot.
If I gave up on this, I dunno where I’d go since every other social is either not interesting to me at all or has enshittified beyond usability.
I guess outside is still an option LOL
Hackernews, matrix servers of friends would be my fallbacks… maintaining social groups in person really should be my main component.
As are you! I appreciate you too.
Fascism is specifically a right wing type of Authoritarianism
Authoritarianism is Authoritarianism: Left, right, or center. Please, use the right words for this. Yes, I’m choosing to be a stickler because a lot of right wing nuts claim Nazis are left wing and use that to prevent self reflection. Words have power and meaning - That’s even the very point you are making, that words can do more than violence
Communism / Lennism / Marxism was the left-authoritarians.
Fascism was the right-wing authoritarians.
See WW2 for details.