I am in the US, so financial calculations need to be factored in.
For a moment, I couldn’t breathe, felt like I was going to die, then vomitted.
Now heart beating slightly off, not feeling great but not terrible, had mild chest pain earlier in evening…
Kinda feel off. Have medical insurance with large deductible.
Ignore it? Taxi to ER? Call 911? Genuinely don’t know and don’t like 911 since police are involved.
Also I feel hot, feel burning around my neck.
Yeah, I think I’ll just go back to sleep and risk death. Tired of being fuxked over by hospitals, society, everyone. If I die, so be it. Peace out.
Hope ya didn’t die.
For those in a similar situation the correct answer is Uber to a hospital ER. Do not use stand alone ERs. Chest pain gets ya to the front of the line.
This. They’ll hook you up immediately to an ECG to see the state of your heart in the moment and draw blood for labs to check for signs of a recent heart attack or clot issue (trops, d-dimer, etc.). If ischemic heart attack, you’ll be rushed to cath lab. Urgent Care doesn’t have the resources to do this and will likely re-route to a hospital anyway, charging you separately in addition.
Seek medical attention now!
Your life is worth much more than the price for emergency care <3
Seek medical attention now!
Yeah bro being alive is so worthy, who’s going to pay for my landlord’s vacations if I die? Who’s going to slave away 12h a day lifting heavy shit 😢 Y’all can have this life I’ll have the next one
Sorry bud, you only get one.
Thanks I didn’t ask for it, I’m here involuntarily.
It is what you make of it.
It’s very much worth it imo. I get to kiss girls and enjoy the beauty of the world and help those I care for
“kiss girls” lol
Yeah this is hospital visit worthy. Please seek medical attention
Are you sure? It could just be food poisoning. I ate a lot of candy earlier before sleep.
I want real world answer, not “always seek medical care answer.”
I can risk a 20 percent chance of death to avoid medical bills.
It sounds like heart attack symptoms. It is worth seeing atleast a clinic
I’m in the US. It’s late at night.
The United States should be dismantled entirely for making people think like you are right now
Its been a day , this was their last comment…
A twenty percent chance of death is 1 in 5. That’s insanely high. That’s like if you chose to walk through 5 doors in your house and one of them kills you. You should always go to the emergency room if you have symptoms like this.
Or just don’t pay the bills and debt is gone in 7 years 🤷♂️
What do you even got to lose?
I think medical debt is exempt from declaring bankruptcy, no?
No, you’re thinking of student loan debt; but even for student loan debt, that are some special circumstances where you can get rid of those debt.
Yeah, you’re right. I probably mixed them up.
What the heck, how is this a question at all? Dude you need to get help asap!
I live in the US
We have to weigh the cost of a medical visit versus the likelihood it’s nothing
If it’s food poisoning and I overreact, that’s a 20K overreaction in the US
Everyone who downvoted this can get fucked with a cheese grater and no reach around. This is how America works. Do some research.
You can negotiate down any medical bill. Do some research.
If you don’t have insurance, you would get hit with this.
However, in most states I’ve lived in, if you don’t have insurance, you get off with less than I’d end up paying in copay after subsidies/negotiations.
As someone who lives in the US, you literally didnt need anything but the first sentance.
Might be a heart attack
Yup. Classic heart attacks symptoms for a woman, actually. But since they’re ignoring medical advice I’m assuming they’re a dude.
That last line hits so hard
USA, USA, USA!
I suppose this person needs some advice from someone who actually lives in that hellhole and can judge if its not better to just die instead of fucking up the inheritance by going to the ER.
This is the best anticapitalist propaganda I have ever seen and its not even intentional.
To everyone who thinks this is a worthy system: i wont piss on you if you’re on fire.
Can you ask somebody to drive you?
No
I could just get a cab
The point is the ER costs a lot
Sorry that I don’t understand the financial situation in your country.
But I think your health situation absolutely needs some professional to have at least a thorough look. Today.
> Makes thread asking if you should go to the ER
> Literally everyone says to go to the ER
> Doesn’t go to the ER
ok
secretlyaddictedtolinux
Probably just Linux withdrawl.
he did say hes from the us.
'Murica
The only valid reason. lol
Lemmy has made it. It’s Reddit from 10 years ago
Go to ER.
In the US, they are required to provide care for actute condition (meaning chronic, aka: along term conditions like cancer or diabeted can be legally ignored), so if you are about to die, they are required by law to stop you from dying.
Worry about the debt later. Or just ignore any invoices/bills… they can’t seize anything if you have no assets, debt is gone in 7 years.
Edit: If they ask for your social, say you forgot. Don’t provide anything other than basic name, birthday, gender, that sort of stuff.
If they ask for social just refuse to give it. You don’t even need to give them your real name. They still must treat you.
The last time I was in an American ER they asked for my social before starting to work on me. I told them, very angrily, that I will never give them that info because the last time I did, and paid my bill, it still showed up on my credit report as a collection. It took months to remove. The nurse asking me said okay with no further problems. They began treatment immediately.
Unless it’s a red state and you have a baby in your belly. Then the will absofuckinglutely let you die.
this could be a number of things, some of which can be fatal. lab tests or imaging for these things are cheap, but only available at hospital and what else do you expect from random internet people than “haul your ass to hospital and ask someone irl that actually knows”
Genuinely don’t know and don’t like 911 since police are involved.
911 dispatcher in the US here
This will vary a lot from one jurisdiction to another, I can really only speak to county I work in
But while in theory every EMS call also gets a police response, probably more than half of them the only action the police take is to tell us “not responding unless requested”
And if they do respond, a lot of time they don’t do much besides sit at the end of the driveway with their lights flashing so the ambulance can find the house easier.
Things like overdoses, assaults, shootings/stabbings, psych emergencies, cardiac arrests, etc. they do of course show up to because they may actually need to do something.
And if you live in a bigger city or rougher part of the suburbs, sometimes they may even take their sweet-ass time getting to those.
And if you live in a rural area, there’s a decent chance you’re covered by some part time or regional police department, or state police/county sheriffs who are stretched way too thin covering a huge area with maybe 2 or 3 officers on duty at any one time, they’re probably not gonna show up in a hurry if at all either.
Like I said, it varies a lot, some towns in my county I can count on police being there before the ambulance (whether or not they actually do anything once they’re there in a different story) and in others the cops don’t give half a fuck unless someone is actively dying.
If you do find yourself calling 911 though, for the love of God, don’t tell them you don’t want police on your medical call, I swear that might be the most surefire way to make sure they do actually show up in a hurry. If that ends up in the notes of the call it makes the cops think you’re hiding something or I don’t know, planning to jump the EMS squad or something, some cops can be pretty panicky, paranoid weirdos like that, or sometimes just spiteful.
some cops can be pretty panicky, paranoid weirdos like that, or sometimes just spiteful.
And this is why we never want the police involved.
Sounds like a seizure. Of what kind, dunno. If it’s candy, might be diabetes.
It’s just guesswork though. Only a doctor visit will say for sure.
Damn… Sounds like literally you just had heart attack…
Alright. Way too many socialists in this post who don’t know how 'Murica works, god dammit. Here’s real advice:
You woke up, so you aren’t dead yet. In most cases, that’s a good sign. Give it 30 minutes. If you feel better, great! This is where I preposterously tell you to follow up with your family doctor and we both have a good chuckle.
If you don’t feel better, might well give it another hour. Most of the damage from a heart attack or stroke is done in the first 30 minutes, so you’re probably not going to get any worse.
If you’re still not dead after that, you’re probably clear to make it through the weekend.
Next question is do you have sick leave? If not, congratulations, you’re fine! If you do have sick leave, go ahead and make an appointment first thing Monday. They won’t do anything, just send you for labs, maybe or just leave that part to the specialist they will refer you to.
So now it’s 6 weeks later and the specialist is calling to confirm the appointment you’re forgotten about. Do you feel better or are you out of sick leave? Congratulations, you’re fine.
Next, is your deductible over 10% of your annual income? (5% if it’s after Nov.15. You’re gonna wind up paying that whole thing for diagnostic tests this year and the actual treatment will hit you after Jan 1 and you’re double fucked.) If it is, congratulations, you’re fine!
If you reach this point, you probably are in need of medical attention and can afford it. Congratulations on getting the help you need.
Bask in the superiority of the best healthcare in the world, you European nancies!
Obviously the tone is meant to be humorous, but this is basically the reality. The only thing I’ve omitted is that you can just go to the hospital and get the treatment you need and then avoid answering unknown numbers for 7 years. I have yet to see anyone sued over medical debt.
Its actually funny (in a fucked up way, that is), because for appointments, you have to pre-pay, so if you are already bankrupt, you might as well just go to the ER where you do not have to pre-pay.
Pre-pay for PCP and Specialist visits? What is this plan you are on?!
Poor people insurance like the majority of the US.
I have yet to see anyone sued over medical debt.
If you’re in my area they sue you without telling you and it goes straight to garnish out of your paycheck. I had to spend a better part of a decade committing fraud just to keep enough money to pay for rent and food.
