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    Important context is missing. If traffic is light and you’re cruising in the passing lane at the same speed as the rest of traffic, get out of the passing lane.

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    I love my Mustang for this one reason. People don’t ride my ass and get out of my way. It’s nice.

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      I drive a NV200 (compact cargo van).

      I could be driving warp 7 in a school zone and I swear people would be passing me and flipping the bird. It’s like they see that is not made for speed, so they’re required to treat it as slow.

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        Because most speed limit zones have little to do with public safety and more to do with enforcing monetary ticket infractions.

        But tailgating is and will always be a dick move

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      Because on a lot of highways the speed limit is a joke. The 4 lane one I take to work is completely straight for like 30 miles and they have it set at 60mph. Many vehicles can (and do) easily go 80-90 on that without an issue. Proper lane usage and adhering to a safe following distance are far more important in terms of safety. There shouldn’t even be a speed limit in my opinion considering the wide variety of vehicles on the road. It’s pretty simple, drive as slow as you want just do it in the correct lane unless you’re passing. Signal. Pass in the passing lane. Don’t tailgate.

      If they need to write tickets for revenue they can get people for cruising in the wrong lane all day long.

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        I’m pretty sure those who have set it at 60mph have calculations you didn’t consider.

        Maybe there are places on the road where someone may suddenly appear, be it human or a wild animal? Maybe the road can get slippery? Maybe the cars going above 60mph create too much noise in the neighborhood? There are many more reasons one could set a road at that, and many may not even come to your mind.

        And no, this is almost certainly not about tickets. If it is - screw them and follow the rule!

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        I wish vehicles made it harder to go above 65 MPH.(Like a mandated regulation to have the foot pedal feel harder to push past 65). Like I want to save money in this economy. Going above 65 is mostly a complete waste of money and will more likely than not save less than a minute or none at all because we all will hit the same red lights on the city streets. I hate how normalized we all become to it. I now mostly drive city streets with either electric vehicle or electric bike. Rent is criminally expensive, people really expecting me to waste money driving 75 on the highway? Fuck that

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          Like I want to save money in this economy. Going above 65 is mostly a complete waste of money and will more likely than not save less than a minute or none at all because we all will hit the same red lights on the city streets.

          Then drive in the general purpose lane on the right AKA the “slow lane”. If anybody is mad at you for driving slowly in the slow lane, they are stupid and you shouldn’t trouble yourself over them.

          Just don’t do it in any other lane, and you’re fine.

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          in a multi lane highway, nobody expects you to be blazing when you’re on the outside lane. people only get pissed when you’re driving limit on the inside lane. if u wanna drive comfortably, just use the right lanes so people can pass you if they want. if it’s a single lane highway, don’t give a shit about others as long as you’re not way under the limit. there are almost always overtake sections of those highways where you see the “slower traffic use right lane”.

          plus, there are roads with limits higher than 65 all over the place and there are recreational things you might want to do with your car.

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          Maybe if you have a short commute. I can knock 15-20 minutes off my driving if traffic is light. That time is more valuable than the extra pennies I’d save on gas by driving slower. Why do you need the medal to tell you when you are pushing past 65? Just watch your speed.

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            Ha, what kind of commute are you doing cross country? That is a wildly long commute. If you find that you need to do 50 to 60 mile commutes then it’s not the norm here. Most of my commutes are within 5 to 25 miles. Driving on the highway at 75 saves as I said, with 1 minute or none at all just because I will hit the same red lights at the same time as others, mind you I do notice when someone flies past me on the fast lane and we reach the same exit ramp stop light.

            The pedal isn’t telling you, it’s basically making it so that you have to consciously push harder to go faster.(A natural deterrent to those who like to just push the car faster and faster without feeling).

            Sorry if you like going fast, and your unnaturally long commute is required. I rather save money instead of living like I never can save any money. Prices went up, I felt the economy lose control. You think Trump is going to lower them? Not really confident in that myself.

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              I will hit the same red lights at the same time as others, mind you I do notice when someone flies past me on the fast lane and we reach the same exit ramp stop light.

              Maybe over a short distance you will. Even then they’d be at the front of the line instead of stuck behind who knows how many idiots that are going to be staring at their phone when the light switches and cause you to get stuck behind it for a second time.

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                We are now discussing what ifs, and honestly that is valid. Still not worth it in my book. Rather blame the traffic controllers who don’t check to make sure all cars are going through the light or straight up there is just too much traffic which isn’t solved by everyone driving 75+ MPH. It is solved if we instead offer better public transportation. At the end of the day we have different views here. I firmly believe in my own and do not think it is going to change anytime soon.

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                  The nice thing about my view is that it doesn’t preclude you from adhering to yours. Everyone can go exactly as fast as they want as long as they utilize the different lanes properly.

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            Distance where going 75mph vs 65mph is 15min faster:

            (d / 65mph) - (d / 75mph) =.25h

            75d / 4875 - 65d / 4875 = .25

            10d = .25 * 4875

            d = .25 * 4875 / 10 = 121.875 mi

            Pretty long commute

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            Plus saving pennies on gas? Sorry but that is the nature of a gas vehicle. They have a really short window of mpg between granny driving and rocketing at 75+.

            I calculated it plenty. when driving 65 MPH, the air resistance is good enough for you to get 28 to 30 mpg. Let’s keep it simple and just say 30 mile trip. At 75+ MPH, your efficiency starts taking a major hit. You will likely be traveling at 25 MPG. That is a +20 percent increase on gas consumption. If you think of it, that is a consistent 18% to 20% loss on gas.

            At $3.50/g(my current market) with an additional 20% increase of fuel usage so, $3.50 * 1.2 = $4.20

            For a 15 gallon tank, you are burning $63 worth of fuel on average.

            While on electric vehicle, it depends on types of charging. If you have solar then it’s free, I don’t. If you have simple home charger, my current rate is 20 cents per kWh. If you fast charge, then it is 50 to 60 cents per kWh.

            Most of the time I am getting between 3.5(above 65 MPH) to 4.5(below 65 MPH) Miles per kWh. With 30 mile trip that is 8.57 kWh to 6.67 kWh usage. This helps translate to cost of gas because 1 gallon at 65 MPH is about 30 miles. So if I do only home charging that is $1.70 to $1.33 for electric. Fast charging that is about $4.70 to $3.67 for just the 30 miles.

            15 gallons of gas can get you 375 miles at 25 MPG, or 450 at 30 MPG. Remember $63 for driving at 25 MPG vs $52.5 for driving at 30 MPG. With electric driving, to get 375 mile at 3.5 miles per kWh or 450 miles at 4.5 miles per kWh. we can translate them over.

            (Above 65 MPH) 375/3.5 = 107.15 kWh * $0.20 = $21.42
            (Below 65 MPH) 450/4.5 = 100 kWh * $0.20 = $20.00

            (Above 65 MPH) 107.15 kWh * $0.55 (fast charge) = $58.92
            (Below 65 MPH) 100 kWh * $0.55 = $55.00

            See now how crazy expensive that becoming for gas while electric is barely taking a hit? Makes little difference for electric vehicles, but gas? That is not pennies.

            Let me tell you I was being very generous with the MPG figure. I looked at family members MPG tracker on their car and they are getting 20 to 25 MPG, but I was being generous because isolating highway only driving is mostly a generous driving situation for a gas vehicle.

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              I tested this on my car as well. I gain about 3 MPG by using the cruise control and adhering to the speed limit vs. Just driving how I want. It’s not worth the difference. Changing to shitty tires was a bigger hit to my MPG than that.

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      This.

      I drive by the limit, and every time I say this a bunch of folks jumps in saying I am the problem when I stop my lane and poor poor speeders have to adapt and not crash into each other.

      Speed limits are there for a reason. Speeders love to say shit like “they’re outdated”, but this is also wrong, they are up to date with vehicles on the road.

      Drive. By. The. Damn. Limit. Those who installed them are more informed than you about risks and dangers on this track, and no, your car brakes are not as good as you think they are (and also there’s likely someone behind you with worse ones).

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        Nah. Drive by the flow of traffic.

        Unobservant people who are “following the rule” in dynamic situations usually create more danger than people adapting to the situation.

        Especially when they get all the way in the left lane to drive 65mph while others are passing them on the right.

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          The danger is created in the first place by normalization of speeding.

          I am aware that, technically, if I’d drive by traffic at any given time, accidents will be less likely. But this danger of variable speed is not created by me moving too slow, it’s because of others moving too fast, because speeding is normalized in the first place, which introduces the problem that wouldn’t otherwise be there. The lane speed should be within bounds of speed limit, the rest is not and should never be my problem or fault.

          Now, don’t get me wrong, if my actions can prevent an actually imminent accident (such as speeding up to let someone return to lane before reverse traffic traps them) - of course I will. But for regular driving, I strictly adhere to the rules and regulations. If this gets someone who breaks the rules in an accident - that’s on them, maybe it’ll teach them a lesson.

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            The “normalization of speeding” is because human beings didn’t evolve to travel at the speeds available to anyone with a driver’s license. In other words, you’re asking for a revision of human nature, which is simply not a practical solution. What would be practical is a system of public transportation that makes individual cars moot, or at least less of an intrinsic necessity, but in the US, there are moneyed interests who will fanatically push back on any alternate options. Car makers, insurance companies, bars and restaurants, and even the “healthcare” industry all profit from people having to own a car and use said car to navigate living in this country. You’d need to provide a broad and low-cost alternative, while dismantling those entrenched interests to make a new paradigm stick.

            So, in the meantime, it sounds like your driving habits are stick-in-the-mud and you likely create impediments to the flow of traffic, as others adapt around your unwillingness to modify behaviors to the situation. The fact that you see yourself as some kind of shining example of driving purity and hope that other drivers get into an accident as some weird punitive recourse is really troubling. Maybe you should talk to a professional about your moralistic judgementalism and anger issues.

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              No, I’m asking drivers to follow the rules designed to make driving safer, which is something a human is fully capable to do - and does whenever repercussions appear, like near the speed cams. If controlling that means installing speed cams at every corner, I’m all in. As long as it’s not that, we have what we have to enforce those limits.

              I also fully support and actively use public transportation and only engage in driving when necessary (which is actually quite little).

              And please, do not jump to the conclusion about someone’s mental health based on a comment on the Internet, this is rude and likely inaccurate. All I strongly state there is that it is insane to blame someone who follows the rules on the road instead of those who routinely break them out of habit and convenience.

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                Hmm. Well, I can explain it to you, but I can’t comprehend it for you.

                You believe that you are right, and can’t, or won’t consider that you could be applying an overly rigid perspective to a problem that requires a great deal of flexibility. Moreover, you seem fixated on punishing those who “break rules.” That’s simply not a very effective way to affect change across human society.

                Best of luck to you.

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        Technically speaking, speed limits are set for worst conditions.

        As in very rainy, very windy, poor visibility, etc.

        So no, in your day to day life in ideal conditions — you do not need to follow the speed limit. Am I saying go double the speed limit? No. 10 miles above the speed limit is fine, though.

        That being said, people who tailgate others can go fuck themselves. There’s never a good reason to be so close behind another car.

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          For worst conditions, it’s a common recommendation to slow down even further.

          You do not want to drive by the limit when the road is slippery, the side wind blows your car away, and visibility is 10 feet.

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    What’s with Lemmy and Avatar memes as of late?

    Not that I’m complaining. I’m a foaming mouth guy tier fan, but I see a Koh the Face Stealer meme as more niche than, I dunno, a Doge meme or Spongebob.

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      I love this.

      And if they start honking and flashing their lights to pressure you?

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        Well they’re obviously letting me know that my windshield is dirty, so I fire up the washers. So considerate!

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            The “odɿυT” sticker on the front of the car is written in mirror writing, so that when you’re one the Autobahn and somebody pulls up behind you with their BMW 2002 Turbo you’ll be able to read “Turbo” in your mirror and free the way for them

            They got sued because of that by the german state btw

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              I was driving a rental when I visited the Czech Republic. On the highways there the speed limit was about 70 mph (whatever that is in kilometers), but Germans frequently use the Czech Republic as a shortcut to Austria and forget (or don’t care) that they’re not on the Autobahn any more. There were many times when I would glance in the rearview and see empty road behind me for five miles or so, then seconds later I’d glance again and see the grille of a BMW right behind me with headlights flashing even though I was already in the right lane. Truly scary shit.

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        Clearly they are warning you of danger. Best drive extra vigilant, which might imply driving slower :P

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      Same. I just take the cruise control down slowly until they back off. If they get off my ass, we can go back to the speed limit.

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    Had one doing that while I was going the same speed as the 10 cars in front of me on the highway during traffic the. He was flashing his lights and when there was an opening on my right he changed lane and then I saw… The guy was in a funk size truck and was pulling a 20’ trailer and was trying to pass me on the right and squeeze between me and the car in front of me so he would have been stuck behind them instead. I didn’t give him enough space, he got back behind me even more angry than before and 3km later reached his exit so he wouldn’t have saved a single second if I had let him through.

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      Was driving on the highway and it was packed. It wasn’t stop go, but we were under the speed limit with cars lined up as far as you can see.

      I look in my review and I can’t even see the headlights of the guy behind me over my bumper. (I’m in a sedan, not a high bumper by a long shot). This is a dangerous situation so I ease off the gas and move over as soon as I get a chance.

      This guy then proceeds to pass me, move in front of me, and slow down. I’m sorry, I thought you were in a rush considering how much you were riding my ass, but looks like you have plenty of time to be an asshole.
      Next gap in the left lane and I pull over and accelerate, he doesn’t have room to get in front of me, and doesn’t have room to get behind me again due to all the cars.

      I have no idea how long he had to wait to get back into the left lane, but for someone so impatient he was very effective at wasting his own time.

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      It’s crazy to me how many pickup trucks with trailers drive so recklessly, it’s like they don’t know they are hitching something. I see other cars being accommodating to them by slowing down more than usual to let them merge in.

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        I’ve seen one stuck sideways on the highway with his trailer flipped on its side and another driving in the middle of the night in the fog without any working lights on the trailer… Maybe they should require an exam before you can tow…

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    this always makes me think about logic and math.

    speed limit is 70. that INCLUDES the passing lane. if I am passing someone who’s going 65, at most I can go 70.

    I am NOT camping in the passing lane. I’m just not willing to get pulled over and possibly shot. Guy behind me can deal with it.

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      Would probably be best for overall traffic efficiency and safer for you too to slow down to that 65 than pass going 70

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          I meant more in the traffic situation but if that’s an option for you then sure why not

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            no see i meant the ass who expects me to speed to pass someone because they drive like they gotta poop and are holding a mug of hot soup at the same time.

            stop. speeding. washing your blood off the road is keeping me from sleeping back at the station.

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              i meant the ass who expects me to speed to pass someone

              In the situation you described that’d be pretty much everyone. 70 vs 65 would be a bit ridiculous.

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                right. if i am going 70, passing someone going 65, and someone zoops up trying to do 80 they can wait until I move back over.

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                  It’s just that passing so slow and when the limit is 70 makes it a bit dangerous to you (and others) since you know that others aren’t going to be traveling at that speed or passing that slowly.

                  Would be less of an issue if someone was going 50 and you were passing at the speed limit at 70.

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    It’s funny how the ‘acceptable’ amount to go over the speed limit is always 10. No matter if it’s kph or mph. It’s 10.

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    I just realized the meme says 10 MILES above the speed limit.

    10 km/h above the limit is pretty standard here in Canada.

    10 m/h over is crazy.

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      10 MPH over the signed limit on the highway is very typical here in the US. And yeah it’s not great, lots of car fatalities here.

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      Pretty standard where I’m from.

      If the speed is 55, most people are going 65. Cops won’t mess with you for it unless you give them a reason. You know, having a dead tag, a dead sticker, being black, brake lights are out, something like that.

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        People in cali (at least norcal) go 80mph, some go even faster (like 100 lol) on the highway

        Socal is always a traffic jam so probably not applicable there