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I had to test it. That is wild.
Switched to windows 10 a month or so ago just for ease of use with video games and mods. Man does windows suck ass. Wants to open random web pages, use dumb AI tools and give me useless info on every empty inch of screen space . At the end of the day it works but quality of life is low.
I can’t reproduce the CPU spike, but Windows is overall slower. Strangely, the calendar on the taskbar takes a long time to load the first time that I open it.
Question for those who know more than me: how much is different 11 from 10, obviously excluding the desktop theme? I imagine very little but I’m curious.
The main difference is that it requires TPM 2.0, which allows applications to run in a fully encrypted mode and prevent user tampering.
Oh no! Not the user tampering! 😱
It’s like a modern version of the worst parts of Vista.
The UI is a clunky mess. I had to spend a week to make it about usable. Every menu is now a submenu of a new new menu, so you often have to click 3-4 times for stuff you’d have in a top-level right click menu not so long ago. Now they’ve been doing that for a while now, so some settings are getting quite deep at this point. The whole thing feels unresponsive and sluggish.
I use windows at work, it’s basically the same except for looks. I do development and have a weird setup and it didn’t break after I unexpectedly updated to windows 11 by accident (nobody told me I was added to the list of people being updated). File manager is worse imo but you can still get to the old options menu, they’re just buried down a layer.
The system clock no longer shows seconds when you click on it which is annoying.
At least my wallpaper transitions will stay smooth.
I can make my CPU usage jump from next to nothing as it sits on the desktop not doing anything, to 100% usage by just shaking my mouse around like a maniac. 😤
You’ll have to pry my Windows 10 launcher from my cold dead hands.
people have been saying stuff like this since Windows XP came out
This is why I use Open-Shell. Ever since MS decided that the entire program list should be in a tiny little scroll window I’ve been giving it the middle finger.
To think what lengths we went to keep the Win7 launcher
Everything since 7 has been a downgrade.
Windows 8 was a vast aesthetic improvement over Windows 7.\s
This is hilariously bad. I think it might be time to bring back some of the old “launcher” utils for Windows like Slickrun or Launchy.
I love Launchy, never stopped using it.
They have power toys run now which is pretty nice and fast
I love PowerToys Run. The Command Palette is ass compared to it. PT Run is basically KRunner from KDE, and I’m absolutely here for it. Finding things (that you have properly indexed) is so fast and easy!
I have a Windows laptop for the first time in well over a decade for a project I am working on. Even though it is overpowered (i7, 64gb ram), and it is currently “idle”, the cooling fans are working overtime because the damn OS is always busy doing some random shit when “idle”. This is AFTER I ran a debloat script. It was near impossible to use before then.
Unticking “alow this drive and its contents to be indexed” and terminating the indexing service helps.
And might as well, not like the fucking search works anyway, even with web search disabled. At least on W10.
Everything by VoidTools is a million times better than the Windows search, it indexes every file and then actually finds it right away when you search for it.
Have enterprise win 11 now and it isnt as bad as that. Its stupid, but not evil.
I don’t get why people exaggerate this much. I have a laptop with a 7840hs and 32gb of ram so it’s also “overpowered” but it’s whisper quiet and consumes 30-45w while doing simple tasks. Consumption only increases if I’m running code, playing games, etc which makes total sense.
Windows is not a well optimized os and the telemetry sucks but you’re just flat out lying with your claims. It’s either that or your laptop has the worst possible cooling.
No exaggeration. I could literally record video at any time to show how it is fanning like crazy. If it is on, it is fanning like a jet plane.
It is much more likely that your specific laptop and the way the software currently is setup has something fucked up. Software A conflicting with Software B. Something trying to load, getting killed by something else, so it restarts because it failed unexpectedly. That sort of thing.
You can’t possibly believe that your situation, as described, is normal. If you honestly do, I have no idea what job you would be competent at related to any sort of tech. The end users I support that barely can turn on the computer or remember their own passwords would know that shit isn’t normal.
Exactly this. I used to have an HP Omen 15 laptop with a 10th gen H variant i7 cpu that would constantly make a noticeable fan noise and would ramp up and down for no reason but the problem was the laptop. Everyone complained about it. The current one is an Omen 16 and it doesn’t have that problem at all. Even when gaming.
I have a laptop that I dual boot Windows 11 and Ubuntu on.
If I leave the Windows desktop idle for >20 minutes the fans will almost always randomly flare up even though I’m doing nothing. On Ubuntu, the desktop usually stays silent, or sometimes the fans come on a little (probably due to bloated browser apps) but never flare up the way it does on Windows.
Again, the most common problem in those cases are crappy drivers/fan curves. I have a laptop with W11 on it and fix/maintain laptops for friends as well and this is not an issue with any of them. The only time I had this problem was with a specific laptop.
Honestly, of all of the things you could criticize about windows (and there are lots), this is the one thing that is simply not an inherent OS problem.
From where have you downloaded the script? Was it trustworthy?
This time around I used the Chris Titus Tech one, but there are a few other open source and reputable scripts out there.
Probably the raphire power shell script. Works pretty well, and is widely used as far as I know
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I’ll just reiterate that this is a work computer provided by a client. They lend them out to contractors like myself. Since they don’t know what the work will require, they order them with max specs. It’d be a monster if I could slap linux on it, but with Win 11 it is just meh at best.
kind of apples to oranges, but the bit about contractors and employees being assigned computers that dont match the needs of the job hit me.
a friend of mine is a video game developer, works for one of the Microsoft studios, He’s a Narrative Director, and no that isnt writing. to my understanding his job is mostly revolving around setting up sequences of events so that characters, special effects, music, etc all plays in the correct sequence and functions properly, its kind of like editing, but instead of a timeline, its a 3d world.
It does need a graphics card and a fair amount of ram, but the computer they gave to him, since he works from home as a remote employee in Canada, is a complete beast. its about 3x more than what is needed for the job.
It was actually kind of comical listening to him complain about a game he wanted to play, not working very well on his personal PC, and he had a monster system in his possession, that couldnt be used to play games.
I’d boot that fucker from a usb drive and have my own shit on that. Or I’d borrow the video card every evening.
I know they lock them down pretty good, but not so good that they could stop me gaming on it in some way.
Nahhhh. If they’re willing to let you work remote and also give you over specced stuff instead of underspecced that sounds like a good gig. Don’t ruin it.
Switched to Linux at the beginning of the year. Still have a lobotomized local windows 11 boot for gaming/VR still though. Can’t wait for the day I can finally get rid of it totally.
I’m rocking an LTSC 10 until 2027.
Depending on what games you’re running you might already be able to. https://lvra.gitlab.io/ https://areweanticheatyet.com/ https://www.protondb.com/
No “should we.” Probably no “can we.” Just a “hey AI, how do I…”
ExplorerPatcher https://github.com/valinet
Been using it for a few months, quite happy. Does not seem to spike CPU with my settings
I don’t understand what this means, but try and find a single Windows user who cares (assuming everyone here is on Linux).
Jesus I really need to install linux don’t I?
Is there a distribution that is better at running conversion layers like Wine? I need to run some windows only software (Solidworks, Affinity Suite…)
I tried using vms or wine, which wasn’t a good experience. But my computer isn’t really the fastest. BUT i got an solution for you. I am using an old computer as a backup with windows. It needs an average gpu like an geforce 970. Then install sunshine and moonlite and connect to it. Its a software like remote desktop, but its so fast that you can play games, which is the original intend. But you can use it for Cad or other programs aswell, Iam still impressed that this works (and its open source)
I’m saving this comment because our engineering department has been complaining about rdp being too slow for CAD.
As someone who has been on Linux (openSUSE Tumbleweed) for almost 6-7 months now, I still don’t understand how to get some of my programs running in Wine. I tried Bottles, and that’s a little better, but it still leaves MUCH to be desired. I have two SSDs in my computer, one Windows and one Linux, and that’s how I do some of my stuff. Lutris works for some things, but I generally don’t like having 3-4 programs that are trying to do the same thing, but it only works on 1-2 of those programs. In my opinion, it’s a little silly, but I’ve mainly just given up on trying to make all of that work and just boot into Windows when I need something done quickly without having to jump through hoops. I love Linux, but it is still lacking in some areas.
The best part about Linux, though, is that we can potentially fix our issues with a little bit of collaboration, whereas with Windows, you’re stuck with whatever M$ wants you to have. It’s something, at least! :)
At the risk of saying, “I use arch btw” - I’ve found CachyOS to be fairly great.
I’m running it on my Rog Zephyrus M16 purchased in late 2023 (it came with Windows 11). It’s great for pretty much all games that I’ve thrown at it with proton, Heroic games handles Amazon Games, Epic, and GOG stuff.
You have lots of options (probably too many to be honest) for getting windows programs to run on Linux - ranging from very hands on with no-frills wine to more hand holding things like Lutris or Bottles.
My wife (who is only a techie from osmosis) switched to CachyOS on her laptop and seems to be fine with it (her game of choice is Last Epoch and it’s painless to run).
All of that is not Cachy OS specific, you can use any major distro
For windows-only software, you can keep a copy of windows as a dual boot. Not the most ideal solution, but minimizing windows usage by any little bit decreases the chances of you getting annoyed at Windows.
Alternatively, if it’s a lightweight software, you could run it in a virtual machine and use something like WinApps to blend it into Linux
Nah, it’s all the same. You can try using Bottles or Lutris to make things a bit more convenient.
I’ve got Wine 9, running on Linux Mint. I mostly use it for older games and a few Windows programs like IrfanView. All my modern games I bought on Steam, run great under Linux. (Steam has a native Linux client and uses it’s own Windows compatability layer called Proton to run games).
I use LibreOffice for productivity, Thunderbird for email and GIMP has a native Linux client, too.
Oh man that explains so many pains in the ass at work
Right?
Doesn’t explain why the fucking lock screen does the same thing though and needs a Ctrl+alt+del just to free up resources
WHY WOULD IT EVER
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