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      I really liked the Dharma Initiative aspect of it, was hoping that they’d go somewhere with it…

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      The eternal metric of a good show hitting a point in season 3 or 4 where every episode opens 20 more questions than it answers, making me wonder if its going to Do a Lost on me and just fall apart. (ahem-Yellowjackets&Severance-ahem)

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    Quite a few MST3K films have a decent premise IMO, but lacked either the budget or the talent to make enough of them.

    Eg Time Chasers (which isn’t really all that bad), The Skydivers, Moon Zero Two, Rocket Attack USA, Stranded in Space, and perhaps even Manos: The Hands of Fate.

    With the right people, I think those and others could have been very decent movies.

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    The Fall Guy. The show had a very simple premise (stunt crew moonlights as bounty hunters) that really couldn’t hold up after multiple seasons. The movie just floundered trying to do too much, and ended up far too inside baseball for normal viewers to really identify with.

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        Yeah, rushed is part of it as well for a full 120+min movie.

        And, I should say, I also loved the movie and was disappointed to see mostly negative reviews afterward, but I get it. I initially loved the fact that 87North, the director’s own production company, is both listed in the opening credits and is the company making the movie in the movie. But as the final (contrived to look awesome, which is the point, not the actual plot points) moments wrap up, it felt like it was as much an industry commercial for the director’s own production company as it was a movie just being a movie. Maybe that’s a selling feature and I overthought it, but it sort of took me out of it.

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    Christian Bale faking an actually decent London accent, Gerard Butler being a loveable scot, and Matthew McCaughnehey doing his best Norse/Spartan Warrior impression?

    Horrible acting all around (except Bale at times), the lead female character was basically there to soothe/flirt with the lead (wish i was joking), you can barely understand anyone, and yet really impressive set/castle and overall atmosphere. You believe you are there, and that the world is gone.

    Huge gaps in logic on the hunting patterns of dragons, helicopters seem to run on infinite fuel, and the final plan to take down the main dragon is just stupid at best… but the execution of fighting dragons in the air with nets dropped by guys without parachutes was a phenomenol air sequence.

    Also, the dragon CGI holds up. You never quite see it, but when you do, you believe it’s there, and the CGI team did a great job with consistency in that the dragons are always depicted expelling fluid that they ignite, and you see it every time they cast fire.

    Phenomenol movie, and one of the best opening 5 minutes in terms of origin story. Just a lot of bad acting, and some questionable feats in logic plot-wise.

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      Highlander 2 is unsalvageable. That movie sucked so bad it wasn’t even fun to watch with friends to make fun of it

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      Mind you, Highlander II would’ve made more sense as a non-Highlander movie that just revolves around space aliens dealing with Earth having a planetary shield now. As a sequel to Highlander its premise was really weird.

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      I feel the opposite, the premise is a defence of eugenics that looks like it was written by that mother-goose ass neo-natalist nerd couple

      The actual film is a decent turn off your brain stoner comedy

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      I think I read that the studio insisted on changes that annoyed Mike Judge. Pootie Tang met the same fate. They should have just let professional comedians release whatever but some studio executive didn’t get the jokes and was like, “This movie won’t appeal to suburban fathers over 45.” or whatever.

      In my experience, it often comes out that all of the shitty parts of comedy movies are not the fault of the creators. But comedians aren’t given creative freedom like Scorsese or whomever and also are like, “Make whatever edits you want. I made a stupid movie with my friends. You got my check?”

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        yeah read that Caddyshack was made in florida instead of california because they didn’t want the studios breathing down their necks.

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      I will upvote you, but i must disagree. It was executed flawlessly for 75% of the film. Hell, even the “project 2025” beat towards the end was pretty spot on.

      If I may ask, what would you have done to change what you didn’t like?

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        The premise was powerful, the plot and character development were good, but it seems like the ending of the screenplay got rewritten, and it wound up being a standard issue Rambo-style shoot em up, when it had the opportunity to end on a different, more powerful note that left the viewer thinking about how this relates to themselves, and our own society.

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        Please excuse all the replies, I just love discussing the movie. It’s still one of my favorites, but I would love to see some other production company film a different ending and release an alternate version with a powerful ending. Think how “Arrival” (Amy Adams, Jeremy Renner) made you feel at the end. I feel like “They Live” could’ve been that good, but maybe it was before it’s time, and they had to cater to the box office of the time.

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        I wonder what the original screenplay looked like. It starts so powerfully, but takes such a vivid downturn at the end to appeal to the masses demanding shootouts and explosions. I suspect the ending was rewritten in order to get green lit for production, because the original ending might’ve been too cerebral for general audiences. I imagine the original ending probably made you think, and generally that’s not what the masses like from their movies. Kind of ironic considering the plot of the film, don’t you think?

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          I’ve never seen the movie, but I’ve always wanted to. Have you researched an original screen play? You might get lucky with a leak somewhere.

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        The fight scene where the main character was trying to get Keith David’s character to try on the glasses… that was legendary. I’ve never seen another (serious) fight scene come close to how hard it made me laugh. 10/10 for that. I imagine Roddy was so familiar with fight choreography from being a professional wrestler that he just got the green light to go ALL OUT and both actors nailed it.

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    Not a film, but a novel:

    Starflight 3000 by R.W. Mackelworth

    If I remember, it was about this asteroid called “The Biosphere” that got hollowed out and sent on relativistic speeds through deep space to seed other solar systems with human colonies. The inside of it was set up like a giant rural town with massive skies, and a foot print the size of New York. And that’s a cool ass premise.

    But the book was so fucking milquetoast and bland. I could not tell you anything about the protagonist, their challenges, or anything.

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    The punisher 2004. It’s fun.

    Battlefield Earth. It’s a get drunk and veg kinda movie for me. It fucking sucks. But I like it.

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    Dark City (1998) could definitely fit the bill, it has so many unique ideas for that time in film and you can see there’s of all sorts of future sci-fi movies in it from the matrix to inception, it’s a very visually ugly movie and the acting is subpar but as a premise it’s super interesting. Generally I think remakes are a waste of time and money but I’d love to see this movie with a proper budget and modern technology

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      I really like that movie. But watch the directors cut, for the love of all that’s good! It removed the narration at the beginning that gave away the whole plot. Much better that way.

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      I just watched this! It felt like the director wanted to go real big with it but technology just wasn’t there with effects. It also tried very hard to be a mindfuck movie but also kept spoiling the twists somehow lol. Overall solid 7+ movie.

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      Just joking. I really liked the movie for its style and the frightening bad guys in all sizes. Also Kiefer Sutherland with a mad scientist touch.