American Militia Members. Where the hell are you? THIS is what you exist for and you are doing NOTHING!

Edit: I’ve only heard “defense against tyranny” as justification for these militias by these militia

  • southsamurai@sh.itjust.works
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    Are you fucking stupid?

    Why do you think any organized group is going to be making frontal attacks at all, much less at this point?

    Jackass

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    The vast, vast majority of armed militias that are allowed to operate in the U.S. are far-right white supremacists. Mysteriously, they are allowed to operate without any issues, but any leftist militias that start to accumulate guns get a visit from the FBI or the ATF.

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    You mean the National Guard? They’re just another branch of of the military now.

    If you mean the white nationalist militias, they’re pretty content with what going on. I think they’re getting ready to bring lynching back.

    If you are talking about leftwing militias, I got some bad news…

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      I meant any of the groups that justify themselves as being a check against tyranny

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    They’re all white supremacists, man. This isn’t a tyranny to them, it’s exactly what they want, they want anyone who isn’t white ‘self deporting’ in the face of cruel mistreatment, and the military and the rest of the government is deleting any mention of any historical person that isn’t a white cis het male. They have never been happier.

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      This exactly.

      They don’t see imposing a state of fundamentalist Christian supremacy as tyranny, because their ideology is one of Christian Nationalism (which in the US is inherently white nationalism).

      They see the erosion of their relevance as the tyranny they’re supposed to stand up to despite it mostly being driven by cultural changes instead of government mandates. This means that the militias are meant to commit violence against civilians; they know the cops will side with them in a scrum. They’re more afraid of a lesbian with blue hair than a rogue sherrif depriving them of rights.

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    I mean, if you look back to the framing of the constitution, the idea was that a bunch of citizen militias would be kept such that if the country needed defense, they would be able to respond. This was because the new United States lacked (and politically opposed) standing armies like the one which they just fought off the continent.

    Since then, the United States acquired an Army, Navy, and Air Force alongside numerous National Guard units. The theoretical need for citizen militias vanished.

    The real answer to your question is that we really don’t have citizens participating in “well-regulated militias.” Not from the constitutional context, anyway.

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    Oh they only care about tyranny that affects them. It’s not tyranny if it’s hurting the people they want hurt.

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    While it is true that the majority of what people conceive of as American “militias” are reactionary, leftist community defense groups do exist. They have no where near the organizing capacity to march on DC but they can be seen protecting their local communities often under the umbrella label Antifa. Given the material conditions of the US, most of the focus is on providing marginalized groups with the skills and resources to protect themselves.

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        Left and fascist are opposites. Left wing organization in general does sadly require millitancy, though, whether it be for revolution or to defend against outside Capitalist powers.

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          Ideas and idiologies are more than just left and right.

          Facism is a way of doing things. It just usually is more prominent with the political right wings because of authotarianism. But there also are left facists. One just doesnt call them that. Leninists, maoists, stalinists, tankies

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            Facism is a way of doing things

            Fascism is an ideology, not way of doing things.

            One just doesnt call them that. Leninists, maoists, stalinists, tankies

            If they are fascists, why did Hitler attack them?

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            That’s not accurate, though. Fascism specifically is a far-right ideology centered around nationalism and entrenching the Bourgeoisie, usually through appealing to frustrations within the Petite Bourgeoisie. It’s a defense mechanism for Capitalism against rising labor organizing and threat of toppling Bourgeois power.

            Marxism, on the other hand, is Left-wing. The class character of the various Communist strains is in appealing to the Proletariat, and wresting control from the Bourgeoisie, rather than entrenching it.

            This is why Communists are the most effective anti-fascists, and fascists the most effective anti-communists, these are diametrically opposed systems and ideologies. That’s why 80% of the combat of World War II was on the Eastern Front, between the USSR and Nazi Germany.

            I highly recommend Dr. Michael Parenti’s Blackshirts and Reds, the first chapter in particular goes to great length to explain how equating Communism to fascism is a horribly inaccurate mistake that obscures the real underlying systems and impacts the two ideologies have had on the global stage in History.

            • 小莱卡@lemmygrad.ml
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              I much prefer georgi dimitrov definition as “the open terrorist dictatorship of finance capital most reactionary and chauvinistic elements”.

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                Certainly better put! When someone is conflating Communism with fascism, though, they often need to be walked baby-steps through those errors in my experience, and Parenti does a great job with that.

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    If the anti fascists of the US actually started arming themselves en masse, I think it would be a net positive effect.

    Either you have more armed anti fascists able to fight back, or the fascists panic and begin banning guns, causing the fools who follow them to actually think twice about their beliefs.

    Nothing gets far right followers more riled up then someone threatening to take their firearms.

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    94% of Militia members in the US are foaming at the mouth reactionaries if not open fascists, with many being active or former law enforcement or related to military or intelligence.