Hypothetically, that is.
Remove every unhealthy person and/or gene modify existing ones to eliminate every allergy orbodily defect caused by gene defect.
Also gene modify so that theres no mental detorioration and humans die just because they are old and the nody can’t keep up with maintenance.
That’s not even unethical, we just have bioconservatives in charge.
Remove every unhealthy person
Well that seems very unethical.
About gene modification, assuming it were to fully work without risks, it would still only be ethical if the patient were to consent, which not everyone would.
Fair enough, I was letting “or” do a lot of heavy lifting there.
Take the people expressing their violent political fantasies in threads like this and make them live in the worlds they’re advocating for.
I suggested lobotomizing all conservatives. I’d 100% live in that world and love every minute of it.
What happens to them after? There are a lot of logistical issues to figure out if about 1/3 of the population of the planet suddenly couldn’t feed, dress, or care for themselves at all.
Making chimeras sounds cool as shit. What’s even unethical about it? Why can’t I have an army of beavermen to dam the world’s waterways unless my ransom demands are met?
Ok, I think I see where the unethical part lies…
Yeah it’s beaverPEOPLE, not beaverMEN. Get with the times!
I’m a beaver man myself. Pubes are sexy.
I want to see what happens we nust have mob lynchings of politicians if their approval drops to below 50%.
Maybe the world would become a utopia?
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Tbh I don’t think anything would really get done. Politicians would just recycle the same super popular ideas to prevent themselves from getting lynched.
It’d be like how video games companies are just churning out safe titles they know will sell really well, but with our government instead of video games.
Historically the most popular political idea is “all your problems are the fault of those guys over there”.
I always found the stories of human/chimp hybrids fascinating.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humanzee
https://bigthink.com/the-past/soviet-human-ape-super-warriors-humanzee-ivanov/
Unproven, but theoretically as possible as horse/donkey, zebra/horse, or lion/tiger.
I heard there’s a guy called Luigi with a cool idea.
Raise a group of a dozen newborns with absolutely zero contact outside of their own group. Food and necessities get provided of course, but no language learning, no nurturing, no generational teaching.
What kind of community do they form when they are old enough to grasp such things? Do they develop their own language; or a different method of communication entirely. How do they stratify their society, or even do they?
At a certain point, when they are old enough, introduce challenges that only work if they cooperate with one another. See what happens.
Most research on human embryonic stem cells - currently impossible in western countries due to ethics concerns.
Theoretically, if a few stem cells from every embryo early on and frozen that might be a huge boon for them once they grow up to adults with potential health issues. Need a new heart? Grow one in a lab from the preserved cells - perfectly compatible.
Currently these kinds of things can’t be explored, and whilst the ethics may be dubious the potential medical benefits left on the table are astonishing.
Lock someone is a room-wide 24h fMRI or some other imaging technique to get a full recording of a human body working.
Is it unethical if they volunteer? I’d be down!
The mouse utopia experiment but on humans. Ive always seen a subset of people who bemoan having to work or develop specialized skills to contribute to society. They want everything provided for them so their whole life can be leasure and comfort. A lot of socialism and communism talking points tend to be about having social services and things provided to you. I’m interested to see the long term affects of people in a society where EVERYTHING is provided for you all the time. Every survival concern, sexual pleasure, every base urge, every whim and desire. For decades and decades and decades.
Ive always hypothesized that any human society that attempts this will quickly erode into something similar to the mouse utopia.
Without any environmental pressures or meaningful challenges to overcome a large portion of the population without strong internal drives will become lethally/suicidally lazy, apathetic, and narcicistic
I suspect theres a large amount of people who simply have zero internal drives to apply themselves to doing a thing unlesd they have to. without the pressure of survival in either a physical or economic way they would simply sit on their ass, jerk off, play games, and maybe groom themselves, for decades until they die. Merit and overcoming challenge are important aspects of drive and dopamine generation. You deprive a person of those things they become lethargic. If that sentiment proves itself true it will be a hard pill to swallow for a lot of ideologies.
I’m curious if it’s even possible to satisfy every whim of a human. Do they get any access to human culture? If not, it would be like cloned birds failing to migrate.
the issue that caused societal collapse in the
mouse utopiaBehavioral Sink was overpopulation, not that they had their needs met comfortably lolfor a more accurate comparison look at Rat Park Experiment.
TL;DR: rats in solitary confined standard lab testing cages will consume lots of morphine laced water available as an alternative to normal water, rats in a spacious cage with other rats of both sexes and entertainment are not very interested in the morphine laced water. in fact they drank more of the laced water when naloxone, a drug that negates the effects of opioids, was added to it. the implication being that the rats were more interested in sweet water than morphine in good social conditions
I’m in that Foto and I don’t like it!
Would it be space limited like the mousetopia too? If not you could have everything you desire and just go hiking for the Dopamin would be my dream lol
I think we see aspects of this in the behaviour of the rich and ultra-rich (where “screw the rules I have money” applies). It’s pedophilia all the way down.
How many billionaires need to be publicly executed to fix the usa political system.
Title says unethical
More than just the ones in America, I’d reckon.
I’d like to see if we can build hybrid computer systems using cultured animal tissue (like Cephalopod or maybe GMO human / Cephalopod), basically grown onto an array of tiny wires. Push sensory information through the tiny wires and see if the lump of cells can learn. If it does, put it in a Eva. Or a butler robot. Or a robot vaccuum.
Idk. Its an idea for a scifi novel I’ve had. Some company does this and what people don’t realize is the supposedly autonomous systems making their lives easier are fully conscious but live tortured existences. It would get more and more lovecraftian as the cephalopod hybrids some how take over (I was thinking maybe cancer? or networked mind) and start chopping everyone to bits. Maybe they try and eat them but they have no mouth, like how an octopus arm when detach will hunt and try to feed a non-existent mouth.
Didnt someone get doom to run on living cells?
Yeah see, but I wanna get live cells running on doom.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8DnoOOgYxck&pp=ygUaUnVubmluZyBkb29tIG9uIGxpdmUgY2VsbHM%3D
Sorry to disappoint ;/
I think that’s a black mirror episode (what dystopian shenanigan isn’t, nowadays?) , something like they copied your mind digitally and then (cruelly) trained the copy to become your perfect digital assistant.
Nice try, Mengele
Making a lot of clones of myself, raising them all differently, and seeing how many of them turn out in the same way as me.
Not the same, but your comment reminded me of an upcoming game I want to try The Alters
Oooh there’s a playable demo! I’m gonna try it as soon as possible!
AFAIK genes only account for physical properties like hair color and shit, and upbringing effects everything else.
Source: someone I met who claimed to be a psychiatrist told me and I’ve never confirmed it or that she actually was a psychiatrist.
Agreed, it’s an interesting thing to think about at least. The nature vs nurture debate is practically as old as time itself but it feels like we’re no closer to an answer outside of “it’s a bit of both.” But how much?
Twin studies show thats its about 50% each.
50% per twin?
50% genetics and 50% the twin’s respective environment. These twin studies often look at twins separated and raised in different households.
Recreate the setup of Training Day and see how many people become dirty cops because they get finessed by Denzel Washington