I’ve been very stressed lately and have been doing some window shopping to calm down. I’m interested in gadgets, but a lot of things can just be replaced with apps. I realize a phone won’t replace very large appliances like refrigerators or washing machines so I’m trying to scope my question to portable devices. So what are some portable devices or gadgets that their specialization hasn’t been replaced by smart phone apps? Extra points if they’re super useful and reliable.
A steam deck (OLED if you have the extra money). Best purchase I’ve made in freaking ages. It’s the most used device I have in my house. Worth every single penny.
Pocket knife. Although I wouldn’t be surprised if there’s a phone case out there with a box-knife-like insert for a razor blade.
…infact, brb.
Please send pics of “Knife Phone”.
Well fuck me, turns out not only does it exist, but there are quite a few options!
There’s this dude, which tries to be an entire Swiss army knife. Buyers pretty consistently complain about the build quality though.
This one has a sheath for a removable knife:
And this one uses the mechanism I had envisioned when I was typing my original post, but uh… cuts a little differently than I had expected, and is ofc the clear winner:
Fuck yeah! Knife Phone and Fuck You Phone!
My dumb ass would forget this is my phone case and try to go through TSA lol
Professional work tools come to mind. Laser measures, camera gear, flashlights, 3D scanners, calculators, etc. Sure, there are apps that offer the same functions, but they usually lack the precision and reliability expected from professional tools. There are also some great gaming devices (such as the Analogue Pocket) that probably offer a better experience over gaming on a smartphone.
Stun guns
Actual guns
I carry a spare usb stick and some low-capacity microsd cards, because sometimes its just easier to hand someone a file the old fashioned way.
Sometimes I do play games on my phone, but whenever possible I use a usb or bluetooth gamepad, because touchscreens aren’t supplanting buttons any time soon.
And of course the Steam Deck is my favorite gizmo, not just because it can run every PC and emulator game, but also because it doesn’t have any bullshit preventing me from installing mods. If phone modding was easy and accessible i’d be willing to spend more on a phone.
Cameras. You can take pictures with your phone, but despite Apple’s advertisements, a phone camera will never produce anywhere near the same quality a dedicated digital camera with interchangeable lenses. And neither are as good as film.
And cameras will never replace a good painting!
Jk, I still use my handheld camera, a shame it takes 30 seconds to boot it
30 seconds
Yowsa. That’s an old camera!
I have a point-and-shoot Canon from around the mid-2010s that’s still perfectly functional. It starts faster than I can get to the phone app on my phone, and takes pictures faster. The video is worse.
My Fuji T-10 takes a couple of seconds to start from cold, but less than a second if it’s in stand-by.
The only digital camera I ever owned that took double-digit seconds to start was my very first - I don’t even recall the brand, but it was before smart phones and the resolution was pathetic, like 800x600 or something. And it was so. Slow. Starting, and snapping.
They haven’t completely replaced them. But for 99% of people they’ve replaced them for 99% of their photography needs.
Man, that 1% are buying a shitload of cameras.
3 year high
That’s long after the reign of smart phones started. https://www.statista.com/chart/amp/15524/worldwide-camera-shipments/
I would add that even though you can slap a filter on a pic you won’t get the same quality of lighting as utilizing reflectors, diffusers, lamps, etc.
Neither are as good as film?
That’s subjective. Subjective to the application and the viewer.
It’s impossible to get a film look with digital, you can get close but there is just something about film that feels like a capture of an actual moment
Similar argument is vinyl vs digital, some people just refuse to believe vinyl is unbeatable
It’s not, really. Most of the variables are quantifiable: granularity (or resolution, what have you), dynamic range, speed. A small, disposable, fixed-lens film camera may not match a 3/4 Fuji X model, but compare similar size frames and don’t try to sabotage film by getting the cheapest no-name brand, and the measurable qualifiers are always superior on film. There are very few, if any, digital cameras available at even the professional level that can match the dynamic range and granularity of large format film.
Film is so bad in low light that Kubrick had to obtain 3 of the 10 NASA lenses to film Barry Lyndon. Any modern digital can take better low light pictures than the best film.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Zeiss_Planar_50mm_f/0.7
This is sadly not correct
ignores the fact that multiple shots-at-different-exposures-combined-at-print-time has been used in film for nearly as long as we’ve had film cameras.
Multi shot for HDR in film is restricted to still life because film is very slow compared to digital. There’s no film camera that will automatically change the stops to make that feasible. So it’s take a shot, adjust settings, take another, adjust settings. At the low and high end you’d need to swap film stock between shots.
@Blue_Morpho responded about how film is so bad that Kubrik choose digital,
??? I said to achieve low light performance on FILM, Kubrick needed a lens that was (and is) so special that only 10 exist in the world. What was possible for Kubrick using extraordinarily rare and expensive equipment is achieved by anyone with a common digital camera today.
So while you can find references to film that matches digital, it is so extreme that it isn’t valid. It would be like someone using the cryogenic cooled sensor in the $10B Webb telescope for their argument.
I apologize for the phrasing - my only excuse is that I use Lemmy mostly in an app, and unless it’s the comment I’m directly responding to, I have to memorize stuff from other comments. It’s usually all I can do to remember who made the comment; trying for an exact quote is beyond me.
So: I’m sorry for a bad paraphrasing.
On a similar note, action cameras, which can be even more portable than a smartphone.
Excellent point, especially as they’re still quite common. GoPro, for instance.
Another light-emitting device: laser pointer. I don’t know of a phone that comes with an LED laser; it’s probably only a matter of time, but even then it’ll probably be - like a lot of other things - a handy-to-have-in-an-emergency app, but not a practical substitute for a real laser.
AGM Glory G1S
Thermal camera?? Yeah, Ok, you may have something there.
What’s an LED laser?
A laser where the light is generated by an LED, as opposed to the more historical synthetic ruby or (argon or other) gas laser.
Original lasers were a tube with a fully reflective mirror on one end and a partially reflective mirror on the other. Some single-wavelength light emitter was inside - synthetic ruby, or a (noble? Not sure if they were always noble gases) gas. Electricity excited the light emitter, and it’d bounce around and back and forth between the mirrors, one of which was set up to allow light of only one polarity to pass. Then there’d usually be a focusing lens to account for spread you couldn’t completely control with the mirrors, and that’s how you’d get Light Amplification by Stimulated Emission of Radiation.
We still do this for big lasers, but for small applications LEDs can be used to generate the coherent light, and you still need a lens because the LED is still basically just a kind of LED flashlight; the lens focuses it into a beam.
Thank you, I did a quick google but all I was seeing was articles explaining difference between an LED and a laser, none were saying you could use LEDs to make a laser.
Not electronic, but definitely a (set of) gadgets: a compact set of tools. Specifically, I carry a Wera Tool Check, but most any multi-tool with bits and adapters will do, e.g. the old Gerber Diesel with the bit set and carrier.
Regarding useful and reliable, it’s Wera, so high quality, and I’ve saved so much bacon (including my own) with this kit.
In these responses I tend to omit obvious items that have no digital component unless there’s an app that can function as the non-digital item. So, no knives or multi-tools.
Along with the mirror, tape measures fall into this category. I’ve tried several digital length-measuring apps, but none provide and accuracy that I’d rely on. I do, however, own a laser measure about the size of a Bic lighter that is extremely accurate; it’s digital, portable, and accurate, so I think it counts.
Even that laser measure isn’t good enough to replace a real, physical measure for detail work, but apps can replace neither except in an emergency, and even then are useless except for coarse-grained measurements.
how bout car keys
I’m posting these separately so people can argue about specific devices.
A calculator is still better than a phone in a lot of cases. I haven’t yet met a financial advisor who uses their phone instead of a calculator. It’s often the same issue as with keyboards: touch screens are simply vastly inferior to tactile keys. Few people are willing to carry keyboards around with them, but for those who use calculators a lot, for many it’s worth having a portable, dedicated device.
I did machining inspection for a while and would be dealing constantly with hundreds of data points. Using the table functions on my TI-84 was a godsend. Everyone was writing answers down and transcribing when I joined.
Yeah definitely, I use an HP-49 emulator on my phone for like whenever I want to do just some quick calculation or only have my phone, but I always have an actual HP-49 in my bag because just having real buttons is so much nicer even if everything else is the same
RPN gang taking over
Technically the 49 is algebraic by default but I don’t think I’ve done a single operation in that mode
While it’s not an electronic device, my wife says makeup mirrors. Yes, you can reverse the camera and use your phone as a mirror, but she says it’s not as good as a real mirror.
Phone cameras are kind of useless for makeup. It’s just good for checking if your hair and lipstick are in place, also if you have food on your chin.
Flashlights. Again, in an emergency, you can use your phone. But it’s not as good as a real flashlight, and I always carry and use a flashlight.
Depends though, you need to buy a pretty good one. My phone has a better than average phone torch, CatB40. It’s better than most cheap torches so you would need a decent torch to do better than the phone.
Can confirm. In many situations, it is far more convenient to go get a flashlight worth $2 to $5 that can easily fit exactly where you need it to be rather than holding your main communication device in an awkward angle where it doesn’t quite do the job and also a wrong move could destroy your $200 to $1k device.
Spend $20-$30 and you can have a rock and roll light.
This is my latest, of, uh, many lights. I’m a bit of an addict.
I’ve heard the “flashlight rabbit hole” goes deep.
I’ve bought myself exactly one “nice” flashlight and it was a big shock seeing how good the tech has gotten since phones took that over in my life. Some Acebeam model with a ridiculous bulb and a convenient rechargeable AAA battery with a USB C port. It’s tiny and super neat.
While I haven’t bought multiple, I did buy more of the same model for family members to carry around. For what it’s worth I don’t really keep it on me, but if you carry a purse or whatever, a powerful finger-sized flashlight could definitely come in handy without being bulky.
I’ve actually written a bit about my gripes with the EDC subculture online, which is how I learned about the flashlight in the first place. TLDR is that there is a weird disconnect that can’t be ignored between a rational interest in preparedness and the phenomenon of online communities of users goading each other into buying more and more widgets, sometimes with financial incentives to make others buy things.
It’s not just flashlights, it’s a whole bunch of things. EDC is a rabbit hole of rabbit holes and while I do appreciate having a lot of options and reviews for said options I genuinely think it’s a consumerist disappointment if you zoom back out.
Would you mind letting me know the model of that Acebeam? Really like the sound of it. Though the OClip mentioned elsewhere is nice too.
I just looked up my orders, it’s the H16. Looking more closely at the receipts it seems like there’s different models with different max brightness but whatever ,they’re all blindingly bright, for me at least, a non flashlight person.
They’re also nominally waterproof, they’ve got a strong magnet at the base so you can stick it places while you work, and comes with a headband attachment and a belt clip.
The bulb is angled which was weird to me at first. I also had to learn the controls over time since there’s one button but several brightness settings.
I hate how promotion-heavy the internet has gotten because it feels like even writing out any endorsement feels like shilling. But it’s a cool little thing. I’m sure there’s more models out there that might appeal to you by other manufacturers but I’m happy with this one.
Also somebody had a bright idea to disable the flashlight in Android after battery drops to low percentages. I was very angry one day, when I walked through forest, and I needed to do it in complete darkness.
bright idea
I see what you did there
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I’ve been very stressed lately and have been doing some window shopping to calm down
Not to minimize your distress but surely there are less wasteful ways of letting off steam than buying a gadget that you didn’t know you needed.
Window shopping means I’m not buying anything.
Yes I know but it seems odd to ask the question if you don’t in fact want anything.
If I don’t know if something exists I won’t know if I’ll ever want it. I live without a lot of commercials and ads compared to the average American. So when I want to know if anything has come to the market that could add value or joy I do it on my own terms. When I window shop it relaxes me probably for the same reason I like hanging out in museums. I will admit anything actually worth purchasing is a rare occurrence.
Interesting. Actively seeking out FOMO. I prefer the inverse of that: amistics
Noble and I support the notion.
Think of this in an exercise of “missing out”. See what is being offered. If you don’t find treasure move on. If you find treasure is it worth it? Price and a metaphorical weight should be put in the calculation.
The best belt I ever owned was Amish made.
Fucking Lemmy.
“Hey guys, what are some cool things out there?”
“Let me tell you why you are living your life wrong.”
Actually, I asked them to consider whether, all things considered, there might not perhaps be a better way to imagine living their life. Big difference. ;)
Video games. At least for me. Mobile games suck.
If you haven’t experimented with roms and emulators yet, many old school games play great on a smartphone. The biggest downside is the touchscreen controls overlay will never compare to an actual controller, but it’s close enough that it’s… well, close enough.
Nintendo’s entire library from their inception as a company through all of their N64 content is a grand total of like 20gb, the vast majority of which being N64. Roms from previous console/handheld games are tiny.
No idea what the current best emulators are; for the games, drop into places like thepiratebay and search for things like “SNES Romset” for the entire library.
Use a VPN. Yar.
There are also fan run repositories of games hosted through Myrient and the Internet Archive if you just want some specific titles or need a particular version for patching.
For emulation, personally I like RetroArch over individual emulators for simplicity. Can recommend SameBoy & Gambatte for GB+GBC, mGBA for GBA, melonDS DS for NDS, & Snes9x for SNES. All are accurate (so not likely to make a game bug out) & run fine on my midrange phone.
The touch controls work fine for games where timing/precision matters less, and for the rest I just use a BT controller. Xbox & PS ones are compatible, I believe, & there are some great quality 3rd party ones (like 8bitDo) out there.
play great on a smartphone.
Physical controls are a necessity for retro games. Get a Miyoo Mini Plus or equivalent. They make retro games playable.
You can get a controller for any smartphone out there. Also RPG’s play fine with touch controls, that’s how I played Pokémon games with no issues.
I know that iPhone supports pretty much any Bluetooth controller.
Joycons, PS4/5 controller, and Xbox controllers all work great on it.
Be careful with Xbox controllers if you’re using Bluetooth. Microsoft only started including Bluetooth in their controllers in the last few years. The Xbox consoles all the way from the 360 actually use 2.4GHz (same band as WiFi) instead.
That’s part of why Xbox controllers are so much bigger and heavier than things like the PlayStation controllers; The 2.4GHz circuitry and antenna takes a lot more space than Bluetooth does.
If you’re going to get an Xbox controller for Bluetooth, at least look up how to identify which models have Bluetooth built in.
Physical controls are significantly better, but not strictly necessary. The kicker is needing to press 3+ buttons at the same time, like in Mario 64 pressing forward to run, Z to slide, and A to jump is a PITA on touchscreen.
I’ve played through Mario 64, Zelda OOT and Zelda MM all on touchscreen on mobile, and it’s -again- good enough. It scratches the nostalgia itch. But 100%, if you have a bluetooth controller or something, use it.
Sbcgaming or whatever its called is a good sub for that, handheld gaming has taken off, its gotten solid, you could also android phone with any of the controller cases, I just dont game as much or id be into them
Totally agree. The only game I play on my phone is Balatro.
Agreed. I play Scopa sometimes. That’s it.
Early in the mobile gaming world, it was looking like mobile games would catch up with consoles within a few years, but then Angry Birds made more money than anyone ever imagined with half thr effort, and then Clash of Clans did the same thing again, and suddenly the idea of working hard and making a good mobile game seemed like a silly waste of time.
I just emulate things nowadays. I have pretty much the entire NES, SNES, GBC, GBA, N64, NDS, and PSX libraries on my phone ready to go. And it works perfectly fine with any Bluetooth controller, because touchscreen controls are… Well… Complete fucking garbage.
I’m currently playing through the NDS version of Chrono Trigger in my free time. And since all of the games are stored locally, it doesn’t use any data at all. I recently went camping for a week, and my iPad lasted like 7 or 8 hours of playtime (on low brightness because I was in a tent at night) off of a single charge.
What app do you use?
That’s why I bought a 3DS :)
Have you seen trimui, abernic, etc. products
Yeah, I had one of these cheap retro handhelds, but I lost it somehow. I have been thinking about getting another one, but for now I am either using 3DS or RetroArch on my smartphone.
I think a ds lite is still the best value in gaming although the prices have gone up in the past few years. You can get a decent bundle with games and accessories for $50 plus theres those sd card cartdridges for it and you can play gba cartdriges. Battery life is unfathomable and they’re pretty durable
plus theres those sd card cartdridges for it
If you’re willing to get a flashcart for your NDS, you might as well just get a 3DS and load up some custom firmware instead. It’s stupid easy to hack with the SD card slot, and you can play whatever games you want for free. No need to fiddle with flashcarts when you can just use the 3DS’ built in SD card slot instead.
Oscilloscopes, logic analyzers, and spectrometers.
