• TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world
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    6 days ago

    Not to diminish the struggles of those with ADHD, but this is also a thing for neuronormative folks. Society simply tells us all to be brilliant in order to be useful for others. But the problem is that not everyone of us are the same and if we don’t live up to expectations, we also end up disappointing ourselves. So, we try to keep up to please others, neglecting ourselves, and hence leading to burnout.

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    7 days ago

    I was in GT classes in middle school and my freshman year of high school and I absolutely did not belong there. But, you know, I liked teaching myself things so obviously I should be put in the class that made me do extra boring bullshit work.

    Why yes, I did end up dropping out of high school and getting a GED.

    Never been evaluated for ADHD, but I have basically all the symptoms my daughter, who definitely has ADHD, has, or had them at her age.

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    7 days ago

    They called us ‘gifted’ to justify our separation from others.

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    7 days ago

    I’ll go for the “Don’t get diagnosed” and “Kill yourself in your 30s” strat.

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      7 days ago

      Same, thou I’m not sure I can wait out the last couple years to 30. Might be fun to have my birthday be my deathday tho

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          7 days ago

          Life is both pointless AND miserable and it would be fine if it were just one or the other but I’m just so fucking tired of putting effort into a life that I hate living

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              5 days ago

              Worthy? I can accept that. The problem is my presence in someone’s life would only make theirs worse. Well it would be a problem if I were capable of seeking out a relationship which I’m not. Not even comfortable with hookups anymore. Accepted that love, affection, and intimacy just aren’t for me.

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                5 days ago

                Relationships aren’t for everyone, and that’s fine if its your choice and you are actually happy with it. Regardless, life is worth living. It may not seem like it now (I’ve been there) but I assure you there is a reason you’re here. Keep your head up.

        • pixeltree@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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          7 days ago

          Nowhere near it, but haven’t started looking for a place to get a helium or nitrogen tank yet so I call it a win. Tbh I should hurry up so I have more money left to leave to friends and family but I just haven’t been able to get around to it.

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              7 days ago

              I mean, sure, but I see them irl maybe once a year, and it’s easy to forget people exist (or existed) when you only interact with them online. I’m always the one reaching out and trying to do things and god knows I’ve let enough friendships vanish by getting sick of it and stopping initiating things and watching them never notice.

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                7 days ago

                I don’t think it’s as easy as you think. It sure isn’t for me. There are a lot of friends I have lost touch with over the years that I think of often. And hope are still around.

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      8 days ago

      For anyone reading this who may not be aware, there’s a lot of overlap between the two diagnoses, and there’s a chance you may have both.

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        7 days ago

        ADHD may actually be a spectrum disorder. I’ve seen a few studies over the last few years that suggest this.

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          7 days ago

          It does “feel” like that to me. Some days it helps me do my job better, some days it takes an hour between deciding to brush my teeth and actually doing it.

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      8 days ago

      Don’t give up, it took me eight years from my suspicions to actually getting a diagnosis. The hardest part was finding psychiatrists, making appointments, going to the first appointment, and then going to the following appointments.

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        8 days ago

        Im at the “psychiatrist referred me to psychologist for testing” stage. As of like, a few days ago. Otherwise identical, 7+ years of wanting testing (and having insurance and money to do it), before even making an attempt at getting treatment.

        Psychiatrist seemed confident meds would seriously help tho! Although i guess they are kinda paid to say that i guess?

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          8 days ago

          I posted elsewhere about this, but ADHD can mess with your emotions. I thought for a while that I was bipolar because of how quickly my moods could change and how strongly I felt things like anxiety or disappointment or frustration. Now that I know what it is, in the moment I’m able to pull myself out of depressive spirals caused by hyperfixation etc. I’m also able to better work with the peaks and troughs of my productivity. Plenty of other helpful reasons too!

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            7 days ago

            Whoa whoa whoa

            I’m diagnosed bipolar and I’m just starting to work on potential adhd/AuDHD issues

            My Dr appointment with the psychiatrist basically went nowhere. He said that he very rarely diagnoses ADHD in adults because it gets found when you’re a kid so i probably don’t have it since im an adult.

            A real fuckin doctor said this to me.

            Idk where to go from here…

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              7 days ago

              Find a new one. Find one that specializes in ADHD. You can absolutely be diagnosed as an adult, however the symptoms must have been present before the age of 12 or something, technically.

              I had a doctor ask me if I had found jesus when first trying to get help w my issues. For real. It can take some time to find the right fit, but hopefully you can seek out an ADHD/neurodivergent focused therapist for better results

              e: i was diagnosed by a psychologist/therapist. I have heard from several folks anecdotally that their psychiatrists are more detached and are mostly just there for prescriptions. YMMV

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                7 days ago

                Your edit seems about right lol

                I’ll definitely be looking. I’m on a wait-list for therapy for now, but I’ll try to find someone who works with ADHD specifically. I didn’t know that existed. Hopefully my city is big enough.

                I also had a therapist tell me that Jesus could help me once. I didn’t see her again. Lmao

        • bestboyfriendintheworld@sh.itjust.works
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          7 days ago

          The advantage is you’re no longer doubting yourself. Self diagnosis is not sufficient.

          That makes it easier to select therapy that specifically suits ADHD. For me, It also lead to me actually using self help practices and trying to read books on it. A diagnosis gave me a framework to base my path to improvement on.

          A diagnosis also demonstrates to others, that you’re not just lazy.

        • nickwitha_k (he/him)@lemmy.sdf.org
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          8 days ago

          ADHD-tailored therapy.

          Meds alone are not going to solve the problems that ADHD causes, especially when it is untreated throughout one’s life. There’s the additional primary impacts like emotional disregulation and alexithymia (and many others), as well as the secondary impacts of emotional traumas from struggling and failing to do things that are simple for neurotypical people and being given no quarter societally for those challenges that are rooted in the physical neurophysiological differences in the prefrontal cortex of ADHD brains.

          In addition, stimulant meds are not the only meds for ADHD and not effective for all people with ADHD. They are the first line treatment because they have far greater statistical efficacy than other meds in most cases. Their main useful mechanism of action though, is not really their “stimulant” properties but their action as dopamine/norepinephrine reuptake inhibitors.

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      7 days ago

      I do apply myself from 2-6 am until my eyes are dryaf and wont stay open

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        8 days ago

        As it turns out, our potential is really high in a select few categories, and that makes it look to authority figures like we’re good at everything.

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          8 days ago

          me explaining to my family that the only thing I actually know is how to formulate a proper search query

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            I used to feel that was one thing I was good at. But then the algorithms changed as well as the internet. Now I rarely find what I’m looking for and I die a little each time.

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              Yeah but that’s not a problem with you or the march of time. Search engines have been effectively ruined.

              I’d suggest Ed Zitron’s “better offline” pod or Freya Holmer’s latest YT vid on the topic if you want to hear some will developed arguments on the subject.

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          7 days ago

          You must not have heard it enough because I heard it seriously all the time and I’m doing great and like sure I can’t sleep and stuff but I’m totally fine and doing great now as an adult and it’s totally unrelated that I’m not employed and super anxious about literally every moment awake because who knows what’s coming but honestly I’m super fine so not to worry.

          (That was so hard to write without punctuation, but that’s how it feels)

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    7 days ago

    Isn’t it strange that we have a government-ran education system that seems to identify those with significant potential for social change/upheaval and then manages to turn them into aimless mental health cases without the necessary learned skills such as how to study, how to overcome challenge, etc? Surely that couldn’t be by design to maintain the status quo and weed out or disenfranchise potential challengers to it before said challengers had a chance to inspire action, could it?

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      7 days ago

      Honestly, I don’t think your thinking is correctly placed.

      I do not think people with ADHD or other neurodivergencies are by design thought of, in first hand, as opposition Opposition that will be oppressors of the system. If anything, it’s a second hand thought. Of course the surpressed will attempt to revolt on a personal or collective plane sooner or later. But really, I don’t think people with ADHD are pre-identified as rebels by the system. I think it’s more historicallly sensible that people with ADHD are just trouble inside school. They ask too much and remembers too little. It doesn’t fit the practice of teaching. That’s it.

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        7 days ago

        I recognize the community, but I’m referring specifically to “gifted and talented” programs as referenced in the meme, not just ADHD.

        I also recognize they were not originally intended to be filters for society and likely had good intentions at inception, so I’m suggested they have been co-opted as a means of social correction by evil actors over time

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          7 days ago

          I can see the appeal of thinking that your genius is being suppressed by an evil cabal who is afraid of your power, but it’s much more likely that the system is designed for neurotypicals because there’s more of them.

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            I feel like this person is doing the serious version of what I say when I claim there’s a conspiracy against us left-handed people, when in reality we’re like 10% of the population.

            Still makes it no less annoying to only have a potato peeler with a blade on the side where you can’t use it.

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    I’ll be honest this makes me feel so much less alone. I should have completed my engineering degree by now, but honestly not blaming COVID itself but the situations around it and the isolation among other things sent me down a never ending spiral to the bottom. I come to learn I barely holding on by a thread most of my life and it started to unravel at 21-22. Getting ADHD takes forever in the UK, I just hope I can survive or find something to hold me up until that. I went from potential family top earner to a lost loser who is anxious when seeing people nowadays.