This subject tends to draw out the worst in people, oddly enough. She has this strange Order of horny men and faux-feminists who will die defending her over I don’t know what. If that’s you, please, put your emotions aside for a second, and look at Sydney Sweeney objectively (ignore the large rack, blonde hair, and smooth skin and LOOK AT HER)… Is she “beautiful”? She kinda has a horse-mouth smile, her eyes are weirdly far apart, she has big ears, and a pug nose. Sexy, sure. But any woman can be sexy if she’s not obese and has Hollywood image juggernaut at her disposal. Koinophilia? Check. Properly proportioned body? Check. Youthful? Check. But is she beautiful? Personally, I’d say no. Just another busty blond that frankly is probably a lovely woman, and she is attractive no doubt… but she’s no work of art.
Not my type but she is very much conventionally attractive.
objectively
There’s no objective answer, attractiveness is subjective.
You seem really angry people like some person.
I mean, gorgeous is an inherently subjective term
agree to disagree
All women are gorgeous! There is no question.
lmfao
Not a fan boy or a faux feminist, just some random internet lesbo, and yeah she’s beautiful
I just don’t understand how. like, why?
Idk it just works for her you know?
haha clearly I don’t know. but from the few comments who actually tried to address my question, it seems to be a much more visceral thing. I guess rooted more in attraction than anything else. which answers my question in its own indirect way I suppose.
Yes, she is gorgeous, sexy, and beautiful. Both objectively and subjectively.
I just don’t understand how. Like, I can point to her problems and people will see them but still insist for whatever reason she is “beautiful”. I don’t get it.
Some people just can’t handle the truth. And at some point you may realize that you have only fooled yourself.
I don’t know who that is (maybe if I saw a picture) so I’m not a fanboy, I’m downvoting you for the weird, subjective, and objectifying post.
I couldn’t care less who downvotes my post ya’ll are just a bunch of internet plebs . I’m more fascinated in the people who say they think she’s gorgeous but can’t say why, and the people who clearly have not given the philosophy of beauty much thought. Naivety is a modern a plague. Smh.
“I couldnt care less, so I’m gonna let you know with a comment”
You forgot juvenile and stupid. So I’m up voting you and downvoting OP.
lmfao
I’d grab popcorn if I liked it.
ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED
- Galdiator
- Beauty is not objective
- Beauty standards are based in white supremacy
- This post is really fucking weird.
So, because I find some Indian women, some Russian women, some Greek women, some Italian women, some Irish women, some non-Indian Asian women, attractive, that’s white supremacy?
Wow, TIL.
Ok rather than responding in kind with some snarky comment, I’m going to make a good faith effort explain what I mean.
My statement that “beauty standards are based in white supremacy” is talking about what we, as a whole society, consider attractive. I am not talking about your personal taste, I am talking about the kinds of bodies, faces, and styles that are elevated in society and pointing our their basis in white supremacy.
Firstly, we need to understand that beauty standards are not some platonic ideal of beauty, they are socially constructed and therefore informed by the society in which they exist. This also necessarily means that current standards are an evolution of historical standards, reciprocally changing as people both influence the standards and are influenced by them.
That means that if we want to understand today’s beauty standards, we also need to consider them in a historical context. I hope it is not a controversial point to say that most white countries (i.e. Australia where I live, and the US where much of the discussion often centres) were historically white supremacist (if not presently, but that is a different can of worms). Like they openly stated it (i.e. “White Australia” being official policy) and legally elevated whites, this isn’t up for discussion. I would hope it is not difficult to imagine that such a society would also base its definitions of beauty around white features: white skin, white facial features, blonde hair, etc. A cliche example of this would be the historical masculinization of African-American people and their bodies. Pernicious stereotypes like “Jezebel”, “Sapphire”, and more modern incarnations like “Angry Black Woman” are prime examples of this, where black women are given qualities or cast into roles considered, in a societal context, incompatible with femininity or even outright masculine.
Therefore, to evaluate my claim that beauty standards are “based in white supremacy”, we need to determine whether our standards have substantially deviated from that history. I would argue it has not, that our beauty standards are clearly descendant. To look at the modelling industry as a prominent signifier, even with notional improvements in the diversity of models, the presence of eurocentric features is largely maintained (see 1, 2, 3). That is not to say there isn’t work, particularly from passionate activists, to move on from this history - but we are not there yet.
Finally, in regards to this entire thread, I want to point out that, due to the global hegemonic nature of whiteness - historically and presently - to some uneducated eyes the premise of my argument here - that beauty standards are not objective but subjective and socially constructed - may be dismissed out of hand. A naive look at other prominent non-white cultures that attempt to recreate the aesthetics of white beauty standards (i.e. skin lightening products in south-east asia) could appear to suggest that they may be formed from an objective standpoint. This is patently and obviously untrue. Other cultures and periods of time had extremely varied beauty standards to those we have today, and it is a blatant case of presentism and ignorance to assume that our particular version is “correct”. We should be skeptical of claims that, unlike so many other aspects of society, beauty standards alone are not impacted by the global history of colonialism and the dominance of white countries globally.
Beauty is objective. You’re a racist p.o.s., and you’re really weird.
Wow, doubling down with personal insults.
Well I’m convinced folks, OP just played the wild card. Time to go home.
you’re the one who said beauty was rooted in white supremacy. that’s racist af.
No they said beauty standards are rooted in white supremacy. Meaning things like modeling agencies prefering they models to have hair styles and textures that are more likely to be found on Caucasian models.
Lmfao, literally the whole world prefers caucasian models. ever been to Asia? Africa? I have, and everywhere I went the universal obsession with beauty was basically arian women. its nothing to do with racism and everything to do with the fact that objectively those traits are extremely beautiful.
In one comment you call someone racist for saying that beauty standards are rooted in white supremacy, and in your following comment you “explain” how Aryan women are objectively more beautiful than women of other races.
Do you hear yourself? You think that these “studies of beauty” are anything other than horny, objectifying dudes rating women’s bodies. Surprise surprise, those dudes think white women are hotter than non-white women. This is where that other person’s comment on phrenology came from, you’re referencing pseudoscience as if it’s fact.
And before you call me a fanboy defending whoever the fuck you’re talking about, I’ve got no idea who she is, and whether or not I would find her personally attractive is irrelevant. Your question and the entire premise is weird, and your justification behind it when being called out is rooted in more problematic ideology.
This guy is super gross wtf is he on about
I’m here late, i hope everyone’s left I’m leaving
Projection
Hold on folks, this is the same troll that said that pornography is evil the other day and we were all sick perverts, and then proceeded to call sex work the same as self harm.
Troll is trolling, don’t feed. Can’t even decide if they respect women or not. Has one post telling women they should do sex work and they can’t possibly decide for themselves, then posts this one negging Sydney Sweeney.
Downvote and move on.
Thank you. Now I can happily block OP’s profile.
Yeah, best case he’s a troll, worst case he’s a misogynistic white knighter who doesn’t understand at all how to respect women. Either way, don’t got time for that.
Porn is evil, sex work is self-harm, and I respect the female body enough to know it shouldn’t be objectifying itself for money.
Oh see I prefer respecting the people inside those bodies
It is disrespectful to encourage or even permit a person to engage in self-destructive behavior. you don’t respect women if you want to let them perform sex work. you hate them and view them as objects. you are naive, and you disgust me.
Permit? Fucking permit? How fucking dare you talk about permitting what people do with their bodies‽
I’ve known sex workers. I’ve sat in their homes, eaten meals and shared drinks and had deep and long conversations with them. In fact I’ve had long term partners that’ve done it off and on when times are tough. You clearly don’t respect women enough to let us make our own choices even when they aren’t necessarily great. And yeah I’ll acknowledge that sex work often has negative consequences, I learned that from feminist essays written by sex workers but they still believed it should be permitted and I trust them more than a man who feels the need to post about how he thinks some celebrity isn’t beautiful.
The last thing women need is men deciding what we can do with our bodies.
people like you, frankly, disgust me. You are selfish and lazy but don’t want to admit it because you don’t have the willpower to change, so to convince yourself you are good and avoid responsibility for your immaturity you to hide behind a manufactured righteous indignation by moralizing autonomy, pretending to care by removing any responsibility you have towards others and towards society. But I see right through your pathetic facade. You don’t care about sex workers, you’re a selfish P.o.S that doesn’t want to care about them, so you disguise your apathy as a twisted form of altruism. Grow up, you imbecilic child.
Oh I dare talk about permitting people to do things with their bodies. I WILL NOT permit someone to harm another person, even if they want to use their own body to do it. I WILL NOT let another person inject themselves with addictive chemicals that will inevitably cost them their lives. I WILL NOT permit a person to rape someone else, even if its what they want to do with THEIR BODY. Just because its “your body” doesn’t mean you are morally justified in doing whatever tf youw ant with it. Grow up. You’re pathetic.
Sex work is work. If you think all work is self harm then maybe I’ll agree with you on one thing but sex work is work.
Illegal ivory trade is “work” that doesn’t mean you should be ok with it. “Work” is not a monolith. There is good work, there is bad work, there is work that is good for you and work that is bad for you. Sex work is work that is universally bad.
Not reading all that, Sydney Sleeper is the objectively the worst sniper rifle. A jarate effect doesn’t justify losing the benefits of one-shotting any opponent. Even the classic works way better than sydney sleeper in that regard.
I’m a sucker for AWPer Hand and I refuse to consider any other rifles. (Bows are not rifles.)
But scoutsknives low gravity though… You can’t beat that.
this is what is needed.
Who?
google her.
no u
It’s kinda difficult to be objective on this topic, no matter how much you ask for it.
She looks kinda weird, but manages to make it more ‘exotic’ and less ‘unattractive.’ It comes off as unique.
To be clear, I’m not in her “order of horny men”. I’ve seen her in like one or two movies, and that’s about it.
Either way, I think you might care way too much about this. I remember a few people that everyone lost their minds over that I thought were actually full blown repulsive. I ain’t making posts about them, though.
That’s fair, I can understand your point about her looking “Exotic”… that makes sense,
As for why I’m posting it, you can’t pretend that people only post on AskLemme things they are deeply passionate about lmfao. It’s just curious to me, and the internet is the perfect place to talk about this.
OP in his fedora complaining about a girl’s sharp knees.
Who is this chick and why are you negging her?
she’s a 27 year old American actress, with major roles in Once Upon a Time in Hollywood with Brad Pitt and Leonardo DeCaprio, Marvel’s Madame Webb with Dakota Johnson, Anyone But You with co-star and Top-Gun Maverick lead role Glenn Powell, and Eden with Jude Lawa and Ana de Armas.
I am not negging her. I’m just challenging the claim she is objectively beautiful.
Before we kickstart the conversation about her, go ahead and show us a pic of yourself, let’s see how objectively handsome you are. Then we can get onto deciding if she is “beautiful”
I am objectively a 4/10. She’s way out of my league, she’s definitely attractive, and I’d totally shoot my shot if I ever had a chance (which I never will). But she’s not beautiful. You don’t have to be beautiful yourself in order to appreciate beauty. Please, try to stay focused.
Name rings a bell, but I have no idea what she looks like.
I tried attaching images, it wouldn’t let me. “Image too large”. Oh well.
Meh, don’t bother. I honestly don’t care.
lol
