If you never lived where it snows and were moving North to where it does snow, what would you have liked to have known? What would you do to prepare?

  • snooggums@lemmy.world
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    22 days ago

    If it snows much at all, get some waterproof boots that either have insulation or plenty of room for socks. Get ones either intended for snow or look similar to ones that are, as soles of boots have different traction in snow than dirt just like tires. They don’t need to be marshmallow looking snow boots, just purpose made winter boots.

    Snow pants and a good winter coat is good for keeping dry while shoveling snow. Dress in layers, so that you can remove one or two if you start to get warm. If exerting yourself avoid sweating by going a little lighter than you would when stationary or walking as sweat will.make you a lot colder. If you can find and handle wool it is absolutely amazing at keeping you dry, even if it gets wet, and it is a lot better at leeping you a constant temp through a wide variety of temps.

    Where I live we get strong winds, and even down to 0F with wind I generally wear a long sleeve wool shirt, light jacket as a windbreak, snow pants, and some insulated work boots made for snow. Plus gloves and a hat of course, which are the two things that tend to get sweaty!

  • foofy@lemmy.world
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    22 days ago

    Get a scraper/brush and keep it in your car.

    Use it before you start driving. Don’t just clear a “porthole” to see out of. Clear the snow off the roof too. If you don’t it’ll fly off and hit the guy behind you or it’ll slide down over your windshield.

    If you don’t have your scraper, a credit card will work in a pinch for the windshield.

    Don’t pour hot water over your windshield to melt ice. At best it just doesn’t work, at worst you’ll crack the windshield

    If you’re new to driving on icy/snowy roads, get a sense for how/when your car will break traction. Find an empty parking lot, accelerate a bit and then brake increasingly harder until you start to slide. This will give you a feel for the conditions under which you’ll lose traction to brake. This is also a good way to learn how to recover from a slide.

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      22 days ago

      I’ve got a spray bottle filled with windshield wiper fluid I sometimes use to “pre-treat” an icy windshield before I get to scraping it, it’s often able to loosen the ice’s grip on the glass so the scraper can just lift it off. Simpler and more controllable than relying on the built-in windshield sprayers.

      A one-handed garden pick is a nice tool to have handy if you find your car’s wheels stuck in some hard-packed snow or ice. Don’t spin your wheels fruitlessly, the friction is just making the ice slicker and harder. Use the garden pick to dig the wheels out instead, creating a rough surface to get some initial traction on. There are also traction plates or mats that you can stick in there to help get moving, though you need to be able to move the car far enough to get them caught under the wheels for them to work.

      Make sure your car battery is in good condition. Cold weather will reduce its power output, so if your car’s going to fail to start it’ll be in the dead of winter when that happens. For peace of mind I bought one of those battery booster packs that you can use to jump-start a car with and I really like it, it’s got a built-in air pump, USB charger, and light source as well and I’ve used it for all of those things now and then. Wasn’t very expensive.

      Stash a warm hat and a pair of warm mittens in the car somewhere. If you end up stranded on a roadside you won’t have known ahead of time that you were going to be stranded so you might not have brought adequate clothing with you. A flashlight, too. In northern latitudes there’s a lot of darkness during winter time.

  • ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net
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    22 days ago

    If your state salts the roads in the winter, it’s strongly recommended to undercoat your vehicle with a coating to preserve it from rusting and shortening its useful life. Fluid Film is one of the better coatings, and is based on sheep lanolin, so it’s not toxic to the environment.

    4wheel drive is nice, but tires are EVERYTHING. You absolutely cannot rely on all season tires, you MUST get proper Winter tires if your region snows heavily, or you will have a bad time.

    There are now fabric snow ‘socks’ for cars that act like snow chains to get you out if a bind, which would be worth having in the trunk.

    In the winter, ALWAYS bring winter rated clothing in the car along with water, a small amount of food, heavy duty blanket, and a small liquid paraffin candle for heat in the event you get stuck in a storm, or go off the road from ice.

  • Hugh_Jeggs@lemm.ee
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    22 days ago

    I live at 2000m altitude

    I had a problem with skin on the tops of my knees drying out and flaking, it was quite painful

    Turned out it was the antiperspirant I was using on my armpits got on my knees when I bent over to put my socks on and dried out the skin 😂

  • conciselyverbose@sh.itjust.works
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    22 days ago

    Stopping takes longer. Drive slower; leave more space to stop.

    You’d think it’s common sense, but a huge number of the accidents in winter are because people drive like idiots.

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      22 days ago

      Conditions change rapidly too. A cloud can cause everything to ice over instantly. You might have stopped fine every other time, but it takes a single unexpected slide to change lives forever.

  • MudMan@fedia.io
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    22 days ago

    I moved to a snow city for the first time well into adulthood.

    The big thing I have for you is that walking on snow is awesome for like two hours and then it’s constantly threatening to kill you. Slippery sludge or ice is the worst feeling in the universe and all the locals will just strut right over it like it’s nothing while you’re fighting for your life.

    Just buy good shoes and plant your feet vertically, no sliding motions.

  • m-p{3}@lemmy.ca
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    22 days ago

    Clothing

    • Make sure to have a good winter coat, neck gaiter, hat, gloves and boots. Staying warm and dry is important.
    • Hand warmers can be handy if you expect to be outside for a while. There are several variants (chemical, reusable, rechargeable)

    Driving

    • Winter tires. It may seems like an extra expense, but it will make your summer/all-season tires lasts longer. In some provinces, they are mandatory for residents (ex: Quebec)
    • Make sure to clear the snow from the car, INCLUDING the roof (aka don’t leave a snowhawk). Keep that snow brush in the trunk.
    • Make sure to keep your windshield washer fuild filled.
    • Have a small snow shovel just in case you get stuck in snow.
    • Keep one of those metallic safety blanket, and those emergency candle in case you get in an emergency.
    • A car battery booster might come in handy. A drained battery isn’t fun.
    • Drice defensively, it’s easier to lose control of the vehicle.

    Homeowner

    • A good shovel to clear out the driveway isn’t a luxury
    • Some sand in a bucket with a lid, to put over ice patches when it gets slippery. You don’t need to put a lot, just enough to not fall.
    • Be sure to keep the temperature above 18°C. If the temp inside the building drops too low, ice can form in water pipes, and you can imagine the mess it can make when a pipe bursts.
    • Balthazar@lemmy.world
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      22 days ago

      Before it gets cold, turn off your outdoor spigots from the inside. If you have ducted air, change the filter every few months. If you have a furnace or boiler, be sure to have a carbon monoxide detector in addition to regular smoke detectors.

    • ballskicker@sh.itjust.works
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      22 days ago
      • I would add keeping a jug of sand or cat litter along with a couple 12"+ 2x4s in the vehicle to help with getting some traction if you or someone else ends up stuck.
      • i dunno about EVs but if you’ve got an ICE vehicle give it a minute or two of just idling and warming up before going anywhere
      • When I start driving on snow I tap the brakes a couple times if nobody’s around just to get a feel for how good my traction is. Am I sliding a little bit? A lot? Not at all? That helps set the tone for what to expect on the roads.
      • Don’t accelerate through turns if you’ve already got momentum, and if the weather’s REALLY suspect I prefer to coast on overpasses as well since those ice over first.
      • Respect the possibility of black ice. If you live in a mountainous area then assume anywhere in the shade is black ice
      • If the house is on a crawlspace make sure any ductwork and copper piping are properly Insulated, keep the crawlspace vents closed during the cold months.
      • Use ice melt sparingly if you have to use it at all (sand is preferable) because it’s caustic to concrete.
      • if you’re somewhere that gets an absolutely stupid amount of snow, follow your neighbors’ lead if you see them shoveling snow off their roofs. I saw a lot of roof collapses in a luxury mountain town where rich people’s second (third? Fourth? Ninth?) homes were left vacant during a pretty nasty snowstorm
    • MeThisGuy@feddit.nl
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      22 days ago

      Make sure to keep your windshield washer fluid filled.

      and make sure it’s winter grade fluid (rated for freezing temps)!
      I once had summer stuff in there (doesn’t smell as bad because no anti-freeze) and as soon as I turned the wiper spray on the whole window froze over and I couldn’t see shit while I was driving.
      scary shit!

      • jqubed@lemmy.world
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        22 days ago

        We had to make an emergency trip to Quebec in January 2022 because of health issues with the in-laws. Father-in-law advised to get the stuff rated to -20°F, but it wasn’t available where we live and I’d gotten the car serviced before we hit the road and they filled the washer fluid with what they had, I’m guessing 0°F. I bought some -20°F in Buffalo but didn’t have room to add any. The temperature was rapidly dropping as we headed farther north and as we neared Watertown, NY the fluid wasn’t spraying well. I tried adding what I could of the -20°F but by the time we stopped east of Montreal that night it was -45°F and the whole system had frozen solid. Tried using a hairdryer at the hotel, but we couldn’t melt it until we got it in the in-laws garage. Without fluid running the wipers can mean just smearing crud across your windshield, making it impossible to see.

        Now I always make sure whenever we leave Quebec that I have a bottle of -49°F rated fluid and fill the reservoir at home before heading up in the winter. If there’s a lot of warmer-rated fluid in the car I’ll actually siphon it out.

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          22 days ago

          good advice! I didn’t even think about the whole system freezing.
          and if you’re going a place that cold also get a (fresh) heavy duty battery. ours had trouble starting the car when it was -35F also in Montreal

      • m-p{3}@lemmy.ca
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        22 days ago

        18°C is recommended, especially for uninsulated pipes and where the ambient heat may have trouble reaching, as these spots may get colder.

        More importantly, check your home insurance coverage policy, some will set a minimum temperature to maintain to be covered, with some exemptions in case of a power outage and other things outside of your control.

      • PetteriPano@lemmy.world
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        22 days ago

        I’d go somewhere in-between to keep things dry.

        Condensation around windows and outer walls make great growing grounds for mold. 15°C is the recommendation here.

        Shit can happen. Boilers break. Leave your faucets dripping and run your circulation pump off of a battery and inverter to save your pipes.

      • Worx@lemmynsfw.com
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        22 days ago

        Look at Dr Money over here, anything above 0°C will keep the pipes from freezing and is technically survivable

  • Brkdncr@lemmy.world
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    22 days ago

    Don’t use anything but a snow scraper to clear windows. Credit cards and anything else will scratch your shit up.

    Your car will rust at a surprising rate.

    All season tires are barely adequate. If you have room get a set of winter tires/wheels.

    Remote start is a godsend.

  • Voyajer@lemmy.world
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    22 days ago

    All season tires aren’t for all seasons, get real snow tires. They work better in the cold in general even if its not snowing out. 4 wheel drive doesn’t matter once you’re moving.

  • BorgDrone@lemmy.one
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    22 days ago

    Cycling through fresh snow is fine, it’s the snow that has been driven over and compacted that’s really slippery.

    When you ride over the slippery icy stuff, don’t brake hard, don’t make any sudden turns. Better to just stop pedaling and let your bike roll. Watch out for hard frozen ridges of snow.

    Usually the cycle paths are salted early, it’s the part from the busy cycle paths to your front door and the last bit to your destination where you have to watch out.

    Snow dampens sound so be careful around cars, you might not hear them coming. If you wear a coat with a hood it might be more difficult and annoying turn your head, resist urge to not look when crossing roads.

  • Vanth@reddthat.com
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    22 days ago

    There’s more to know if you plan to drive a car.

    Four-wheel drive helps to accelerate in icy conditions, it does not help braking.

    Make slow, careful changes when it’s snowy or icy. Slow down more than you normally would to take a turn. Give yourself triple the distance to slow to a stop. Don’t turn hard.

    Use windshield wiper fluid appropriate for freezing temperatures.

    Put any rage or impatience aside and get to where you’re going safely.

    If you live in a place that clears the streets and you don’t have to go anywhere, consider staying put. Wait a couple hours until the streets are cleared.

    If you’ll be driving somewhere more remote, have clothes and boots appropriate for the weather in case your car breaks down or gets stuck and you have to walk. I also keep a jug of water, flashlight, and blanket/sleeping bag in my trunk during winter for this reason.

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        22 days ago

        This is very important, I’ve seen people try this and it just makes things worse. In another comment I suggested my favourite solution to getting stuck like this; have a one-handed garden pick or similar tool in the car so you can dig the tires out of the ice.

  • BougieBirdie@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    22 days ago

    I’ve lived with the snow all my life, but I can probably still offer some tips that people get caught on.

    Snow removal is a bastard. Snow’s often heavier than it looks, especially when it’s wet. If you’re doing it yourself, make sure to stretch and not to attempt it if you have a heart condition. The low temperature makes the exertion more difficult on your heart, lungs, and muscles. It’s a fantastic way to stay in shape, but I often pull something in my back with the first major snowfall.

    Winter driving bears some special consideration. Your car might need more time to warm up before it’s good to drive, and freezes will kill low batteries. Traction is poor, and even with a light layer of snow it can be very difficult to drive uphill. You often need a running start, and around here sometimes you just can’t make it to the top. Be prepared by knowing alternate routes, and by keeping an eye out for other drivers that might start rolling back towards you.

    People often get stuck in the snow, so it’s important to be prepared. There’s two types of roadside emergency kits that you should be prepared to use. One is for attempting to get your car out of the snow, and the other is for survival if you can’t get unstuck. People more qualified than I could tell you what should be in them, but warm clothing and blankets are a must. If you have enough fuel, you might think that you could run the car all night to keep warm. But be warned that might not always be an option, and if the snow is piling up it can cause your exhaust to back up and asphyxiate you.

    Walking in snow requires a higher level of exertion. It’s harder on your muscles, and stabilizing on packed snow might cause you to use some unfamiliar muscle groups. Again, it’s a great way to stay in shape, but if you’re not prepared for it you can quickly have a bad time. If the snow is particularly deep, you might be interested in snowshoeing or skiing. These are easier than clomping through the snow, but again, they’ll be unfamiliar muscle groups and require some practice.

    I would do some research to see what level of snow removal your destination city does. Some places are super accessible, some plow only roads and leave sidewalks buried, and some places you’re snowbound for months at a time. I personally find it quite cozy to be snowed in, but it can become a serious problem if you’re not prepared for it.

    This one’s probably subjective, but I find it important to keep separate Winter and Autumn outerwear. We’re at the time of year now where we’re starting to see some freezing temperatures, but it’s nowhere near what it’ll be in a couple months’ time. If you’re coming from a hot climate, you might be tempted to put on your warmest clothes as soon as it’s colder than you’ve been in your life. But then when it gets even colder than that, you’ll be happy to have something warmer to add to it.

    Find something fun to do in the snow. If you’ve never seen snow in person before, I understand it’s often a magical feeling. But once you live with it for a long time, the magic can fade, and the inconveniences can mount. Having something to look forward to with the snow sometimes makes all the difference between Winter Wonderland and Frozen Hellscape. Whether that’s tobogganing, skating, or snowball fights, you’ve got to do something to keep up the morale in the winter months.

  • jordanlund@lemmy.world
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    22 days ago

    Drive your car like it doesn’t have brakes. Treat it like a boat.

    When you get parked, knock the snow and ice out of the wheel wells before you start driving again.

  • Nollij@sopuli.xyz
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    22 days ago

    A lot of people have pretty well covered how to drive in snow and ice, but here’s a little secret they won’t tell you:

    • Over the summer, the locals forgot how to drive on snow, too.

    The first big snow will bring the car fairy to sprinkle wrecked cars along the side of the road. Most of these are given by people with plenty of experience driving on snow.

    Stay home that first time. If you absolutely must drive, be the one going too slowly. After that, you can kind of do as the Romans do.

    • nicgentile@lemmy.world
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      22 days ago

      My first time driving in snow ever was in January. From Columbia, MD, through DC into Arlington, VA. At 5.30 AM. Big truck guys we the most guys on the snow. I drove a FWD 05 Jetta and drive painfully slowly and made it. Patience and sensibility paid off abundantly.

  • greenshirtdenimjeans@sh.itjust.works
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    Keep one of those brush/scraper things in your car.

    Clean the snow off your car before driving.

    CLEAN THE SNOW OFF YOUR CAR BEFORE DRIVING

    All of it

    If it is going to be a lot of snow, don’t wait until it is over before you start digging out.

    Salt/pet friendly ice melt for your walkways

    Have a snow blower? Don’t wait until the day before to see if it still runs. Make sure you have gas for it