• barsquid@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    “America bad therefore all adversaries are good and all adversaries’ actions are good.”

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      Is resistance to Genocide good? No this is a nuanced complex issue and anyone saying it’s not is an America hater! (Because israel = America right?)

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    Based. Get wrecked Zionist troll.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinkwashing_(LGBT)

    Origin of the term

    In April 2010, Queers Undermining Israeli Terrorism (QUIT) in the Bay Area, used the phrase pinkwashing as a twist on greenwashing, a practice where companies claim to be eco-friendly in order to make profit. Dunya Alwan was at a talk with Ali Abunimah, editor of Electronic Intifada in 2010, when he said “We won’t put up with Israel whitewashing or greenwashing” and she thought “or pinkwashing!”

    In 2011, Sarah Schulman used the term pinkwashing in a widely read The New York Times editorial arguing that Israel used the tactic in its public relations. Schulman saw pinkwashing as a manifestation of homonationalism, the processes by which some powers selectively agree with the claims of sexual minorities and exploit them to justify racism, xenophobia (rejection of foreign people), and aporophobia (rejection of the poor);

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    Well one of the mods over there is a clearly pro-Russian account.

    I’ve been banned from that community (and all others on Lemmy.ml he is a mod on) several times by this account: [email protected]

    https://reddit.moonbeam.town/u/[email protected]

    https://lemmygrad.ml/u/davel

    He absolutely refuses to answer the question “are you pro-Russian” while fiercely touting Russian propaganda, saying Russian propaganda doesn’t exist at all, denying Uighur genocide, advocating against Ukraine, all that jazz.

    Ten bucks says he comes here whining about stalking again while refusing to answer if he supports Putler or not.

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      Tankies will never, ever wander outside of their safe spaces. Despite them being able to talk here, none do it, mainly because then they’d have their bigotry and extremism challenged.

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      No doubt there’s russia government propaganda out there but advocating against the ukrainian authoritarian government is not automatically “enemy” propaganda

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        Advocating against Ukraine in the context of the Russo-Ukrainian war, by spreading pretty much verbatim what Russian state news is touting.

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    How is the idea that two evils can fight each other so hard to understand? Not all fights are between a good and a evil.

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      I think it is difficult for children to understand nuance like that. Aren’t cartoons always very obvious about who is in the right?

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      It doesn’t help that they have the emotional maturity of toddlers

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        You’ve got to wonder how much of it is genuine and how much is some in a third world country being paid by putin/xi to spread propaganda on social media

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          No, you really don’t have to wonder that. Not when you meet plenty of real people with those real opinions. I think questioning the humanity of those who we interact with is far more destructive. It’s often the conspiracy minded Lemmygrad users who share spaces with real people who disagree with them, and instead of managing the cognitive dissonance they just accuse them of being a bot. Everyone who disagrees with me is fake!

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      It is fights between arbitrary stance with no factual evidence and arbitrary stance with no factual evidence.

      Actually it sounds a lot like a holly war

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      Seriously. There are also people on Lemmy that think anyone who has sympathy for civilians also support terrorists.

      How absolutely fucking brain-dead do you have to be to not understand that killing civilians is wrong? You can hate the rulers of Israel, Hamas, and Hezbollah while simultaneously hoping that Israeli, Palestinian, and Lebanese civilians don’t get hurt.

      This isn’t rocket science.

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      Reality is a team sport, to some people. The conservative worldview is defined by interpersonal loyalty. There is some rightful order to things, and it’s your job to justify and promote that, by stringing together argument-shaped sentences. They think that’s all anyone’s doing.

      And yes, I would call tankies conservatives. The word doesn’t refer to right-wing policies. It means “well somebody’s gotta be king.” They use leftist language, and absorb some leftist motivation, but any of it and all of it will go out the window for the social game of maintaining loyalty.

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      Yeah and they also forget that something evil can have elements or components that arent evil. You wont kill every employee of a company because the ceo is evil. You wont kill every palestanian or israeli because the IDF and hamas are terrorist organizations.

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      Your statement is akin to saying the Allies in WW2 were no heroes. In fact they were also the bad guys because they were racist and homophobic. Thus WW2 was a “complex and nuanced” issue.

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        Parent comment: “Two evils can fight each other.”

        Your idiotic comment: “You’re saying everyone who has ever fought anyone is evil and there’s no good guys anywhere!”

        I’m confident that when you review what was said you’ll see just how fucking stupid your reply is. I’ve seen you say intelligent stuff before, drink your coffee!

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        WW2 was complex and nuanced, especially outside of Europe, and extra especially in the Middle East

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          WW2 was complex but I wouldn’t use the word nuanced. Most people can agree morality in WW2 can be fully reduced to Nazis bad

          Whenever someone calls Hitler bad and Allies good it’s not a great look if someone shows up saying “well actually the Allies bombed Dresden too, it was actually all pretty nuanced”.

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            The WWII equivalent of what they said is “Churchill was a hero of humanity”. I would absolutely disagree with that statement.

            Churchill was a monster, just less of one than Hitler.

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              If Churchill was killed during WW2 while fighting Hitler everyone would be calling him a hero.

              OP didn’t even mention Nasrallahs actual war crimes which were backing Assad during the Syrian civil war. Just the generic pinkwashing.

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            I believe if your argument relies on the semantics of words, then your argument is pretty weak.

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    I was blocking most lammy.ml communities I encountered. I finally just blocked all the lammy.ml instances. Its mostly trash there and I will find some place else.

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      That is a matter of perspective.

      If someone kills the leader of a genocidal country, they are a hero to the genocided and a terrorist to the genocidal country. The leader of a genocidal country is a terrorist to the genocided and a hero to the genocidal country.

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        There is a pretty clear definition of terrorism and when you think actual genocidal islamists arent terrorist “because they fight the status quo and nothing else” you might need to find yourself in prison for terrorism support.

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    You got banned, logged into an alt, said the same thing, got banned again…

    And you were so surprised you had to make a post about it?

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      No idea who they are, we got banned at the same time. You can see the conversation in the original post

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      You read a post title, clicked the link and scrolled ALLLLLL the way down to comment this?

      And you’re here trying to shame this other person for talking about getting banned?

      Lmao, typical tankie with the .world sock puppet account.

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      That’s about right for flyingsquid. Seems like a nice bloke but has repeatedly shown he doesn’t have the impartiality required to be a moderator.

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        Semi-related, but how do you feel about my moderation? Being impartial is sometimes quite difficult

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        I don’t think he is nice, I think he acts like a mall cop on an ego trip. I had to block him

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          He’s nice when you agree and most his opinions are decent so you tend to agree a lot. But he tends to start acting weird/hostile when you have a disagreement.

          I really appreciate his contributions to lemmy while thinking maybe he isn’t the best person to moderate a political community.

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            We have different opinions on what nice is. Personally I feel if someone’s only nice when you agree with them. That’s not nice

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      You didn’t politely disagree. He asked a direct question to which you earlier said to know the answer to.

      What you kept repeating was not an answer to said question, and then you started playing stupid games against someone who’s shown time again to have no patience for them.

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        Imagine you are an expert in software engineering, and imagine I asked you, “How do you build an app?” How would you directly answer that question?

        Moreover, if it was obvious to you that the person wasn’t really interested in how to build apps, but they actually doubt it’s possible to build apps at all and they just want to waste your time arguing with you would never get your app approved on the App Store or something like that, how much detail would you be willing to go into about how to build apps? Would you take them through the whole process, start to finish? Would you point them towards resources they could use to learn how to build an app?

        I answered the question quite extensively, with explanations and caveats. It should be very clear that while he (and you) may disagree with me, I am not making these arguments in bad faith, I’m not trolling, and I’m not being particularly rude or breaking any rules.

        I’m definitely not playing any “games”, I’m just explaining my position the best way I can, but I’m also not trying to waste my time arguing with people who have zero genuine interest in taking what I say seriously.

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        It was a message I accidentally submitted before I had finished writing, then deleted so that I could continue to write it, but by the time I finished it, I was already banned. It was something along the lines of “I don’t really think you’re arguing in good faith here, because as you said, you “knew” before even starting this conversation that I wouldn’t have any practical ideas”, or something along those lines. If there’s any way to un-delete it I’d be happy to do that, if you know how I can? Or somehow recover the original text?

        Edit: Never mind, figured out how to undelete it. Original comment is restored. I accidentally submitted just that fragment instead of a longer message I had intended on replying with.