I recently watched a short film, Place des fêtes (spoilers)
::: Place des fêtes
The scene in the end, a group of friends One guy steals a sad guy’s guitar,
Another guy tells him “He’s just kidding” as he’s making chase
A third guy stabs him in the belly
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Jokes can hurt. Sometimes the joke is malicious. Sometimes the joke hurts a lot -
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he had to get an ambulance
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I can’t figure out how to mark a spoiler, the spoiler button on the jerboa app doesn’t work out
It’s missing the word spoiler between the ::: and the header
Like…
::: spoiler header Content :::header
Content
Title
The button on Jerboa works for me. 🤷🏻♂️
TIL there’s a term for this: Schrödinger’s joke
Same woman probably constantly says “Men are the worst”
You’ll be glad to know I just spent a good five minutes on her twitter account and she’s not the man hating person you expected this woman you know nothing of to be. You might still exercise caution though, as she might be… a single childless cat lady 😱
Did I say she is a man hater? Don’t put words in my mouth and stop being so dramatic
Don’t put words in my mouth
I equated someone constantly saying men are the worst with hating on man. I don’t think it’s farfetched. How would you call that? Also putting words in people’s mouth is literally what your comment does so maybe just follow your own advice.
stop being so dramatic
I’ll be as dramatic as I choose to, thank you.
Bruh did you even read the original comment you posted lmao
Ok. Re-read it. You’re being dramatic
Nope. I used to be exactly like you when I was a 13yo edge lord and I know how you operate. You clearly have a lot of insecurities you don’t know how to deal with so you turn to hate to make yourself feel better.
They’re just joking. They’re exhibiting the same behavior criticized in that meme to mock it further. Unless you’re going along for the joke, in that case don’t mind me
They never put a /s and I have autism so I’m going to take it literally.
God I hate Poe’s law.
Lol. You know nothing about me. So all you can is assume and make accusations and try and insult me, but I’m the problem. Ok
I want to cherry pick all the volunteering misogynist pricks from the comments section, let them go in a forest and shoot them for sport. With nerf guns, but still.
Right? The point she’s making had zero to do with being a woman, and she didn’t single out men, but some dudes really love to tell on themselves.
Pretty mysandrist of you to assume what my intentions were
You calling me a misogynist?
Your going to have to explain your comment there, cuz it’s not looking to good for you
My point was that it should be common knowledge that there are some jokes that shouldn’t be said, and yes, it is bigoted to make the jokes.
In my experience, people who get on social media and get on their soap box about bigots are self-righteous and hypocrites. Whether you like it or not, everyone has biases.
Plus the whole idea that men can’t criticize women, but it’s not sexist for women to criticize men. No, she didn’t say anything about men, but my point is I believe those words have come out of her mouth at one point or another, and that’s bigotry
Ok you see, right there at the end. Thats big incel energy brother. It was wholly unwarranted. This poster made a general statement about trolls pushing the boundaries. This is a human condition thing. If the picture was of some dude, you would not have said anything. Your mind has been poisoned and has you tilting at windmills. You took offense at someone calling out trolls. Why would you automatically be on the defensive?
Normally i wouldn’t extend this energy out. But you seem oblivious to the state you are in. I don’t know if you will accept it, but honestly your best bet is to own this mistake and take a moment to just look at your self.
I’m not an incel (this suspicion is bigoted). I’m actually married. And you assume that if it was a man, my reaction would have been different is presumptuous. And it didn’t offend me at all. Im just pretty certain that those words have passed through lips before which is bigotry making it hypocritical. I don’t really know how to explain my point any better.
My dude! Your last paragraph was about how women don’t get to talk about men like that. She never mentioned anything about Schrödingers joke being from men, or a man. You supplied the justification to call her a hypocrite in your own mind. You admit she didn’t mention men, and without missing a beat justified calling her a hypocrite because you assumed she had made comments against men at some point in the past?
And even if she did, it would not be hypocrisy because she did not single out and attack men here. So she could not be a hypocrite in that way. Someone has gotten ahold and poisoned your mind and you now paint your perspective to where random comments are calling you out! The very shadows plot against you! That’s not healthy. And it’s the kind of damage that some rando on the feed ain’t able to fix.
The warm fuzzy feeling of a chain of DELETED when another incel gets owned. Back to the cave with ye! Vie! Brandishes broom
ah, so you just assumed she was a “misandrist” because she’s a woman on the internet who has opinions
there’s nothing misogynist about that no sirrrr /s
Lol. I didn’t say any of that. Practice what you preach about assumption
No, she didn’t say anything about men, but my point is I believe those words have come out of her mouth at one point or another
so tell me, why do you believe those words have come out of her mouth at one point or another?
Let me guess: “iT wAs a J0kE bRo!”?
You’re 0 for 2 now.
But that person only commented once.
I realize that now lol
You’d only be proving her point.
That’s bigoted. One man upset you so all men are bad?
More bad faith dipshittery.
He’s actually working undercover for the Big Bear consortium, pushing women to choose the bear one comment at a time.
This is why I only spread hatred towards people I actually hate, like the British.
The only thing I can’t stand is people who are intolerant of other people’s cultures… And the Dutch!
I prefer not offending anyone so I usually spread hatred towards people who don’t actually exist, like the chilean.
But the British aren’t people…
We FACKIN love it mate
Where did you find such hate? The British museum??
Bri*ish🤮
French person! I hope you enjoy the government corruption of the Olympics! 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬
Nah. Jokes are funny.
Wait, did you do that or is this just a joke? This gets meta pretty soon
I don’t mind, rather, I enjoy dark humor, just not when it’s thinly veiled actual beliefs. It’s more supposed to be a way to show the absurdity of legitimate problems or be a easier way to broach tough topics.
Yeah, if it’s truly just an attempt to not admit your bigoted beliefs, then it’s a fair callout. But there are also cases where the insulting bigoted comment joke is supposed to make fun of the people who actually hold those beliefs, and those are fair game.
I think they fairly qualified their joke to indicate that they are explicitly excluding sarcasm from the scenario.
Though agreed that a good sarcastic or sardonic joke can be a great callout.
She’s being so sensitive
If a comment is funny to the person giving it and offensive to the target it’s not a joke, it’s just bigotry.
It’s interesting how people try to redefine the word joke. If there’s nothing funny about it, it’s not a joke. So maybe they mean that they were trolling just for fun, which is not the same thing.
The second point is that if they say something horrible and then you call them an asshole and then they complain that you’ve gotten too sensitive, which is a very common chain of events, it actually shows that they’ve gotten too sensitive. If you’re not supposed to care about what they said, why should they care about what you said? … But of course actually they don’t care about what you said, and they’re just grandstanding. But even if we accept their internal logic just for the sake of argument, it still makes them giant assholes.
If there’s nothing funny about it, it’s not a joke
This doesn’t excuse these people, but this is a bad way to define a joke. Funny is a subjective thing, a matter of taste, there is no objective “funny” to measure against to see if they qualify.
A lot of language is subjective, and jokes are notoriously subjective. They translate horribly across cultures and languages.
If you have a different definition in mind, I’m all ears.
Lol couchfuckers
So … Harley’s beliefs are a joke. Got it!
Fuck blind people and deaf people suck
Is this instructions and information or…?
It’s a line from Eminem track. (Old man Em argues with his young, edgy, offensive Slim Shady persona from the '000s)
Haha, yes, I was trying to be funny by implying that you were telling me to sleep with blind people and find people who gives oral
The end stage of this is Groypers screaming the N-word at large public events, then filming reaction videos of the results.
If I say some fucked up shit as a joke, it’s only because I failed to see how it was fucked up. Or I’m being sarcastic/facetious. If the former, and it’s brought to my attention, I’ll apologize and not repeat it. If the latter… 🤷🏻♂️
However, I once repeated a joke told to me by my transfem sister that she learned in her trans support group and was called a transphobe on Reddit. Sometimes shit doesn’t matter, they just wanna be angry.
Yeah the sort of jokes from trans support groups often wind into the “this is probably not the sort of joke I’m comfortable hearing a random cis person tell”. Lots of jokes about dark aspects of our lives
Lots of jokes can be understood in different ways. On the internet nobody can tell if you are sincere, while a trans person at a trans support group definitely is. If I repeat an alt right talking point to my buddy, he knows I’m being sarcastic and I’m making fun of them. But you can’t tell if I’m alt right or not. Kinda sad you actually have to explain this.
