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Type G masterrace represent! The UK may have shit food, shit weather, shit people, shit politicians, shit culture and a shit economy but at least we’ve got good plugs…
Except when the unplugged cable lays prongs-up and you stab your foot by stepping on it. E and F are clearly superior. The switch on the socket will not convince me otherwise.
We don’t have shit food, you can buy all kinds of food here.
We don’t have shit weather, it depends what you like. I imagine rain is good for a lot of things and species.
Everywhere has shit people, but far more good people than shit people. It’s just shit people are more news worthy.
We do have shit politicians though but where doesn’t. Particularly when it comes to the working class or Palestine.
We don’t have a shit culture, you might be hanging around the wrong people. I’ve been to many Pro-Palestine protests in Manchester and we have all kinds of diverse people.
Not sure about the economy, that seems to be a global issue.
I’m not trying to be jingoistic about my country cause I’m really not. I will support any country the same as my own and although we do have issues with racism and stuff, it’s the minority of people.
Cant we all just agree that IEC 60309 is the superior plug for obvious reasons.
800 amps is almost enough to run Roblox at 23 fps
Imagine that on the end of your phone charger
Extra quick charging with 25kw of power
It is definetly the superior plug for everything outdoor and or higher power.
Its way too bulky for smaller devices.
Here in Germany we have type F and C, where C is used for low power devices and also fits into the F socket, but not the other way around.
So even the type F plug would be too big for smaller devices.
Can’t plug it in with one hand. The cover needs an opening mechanism.
I sometimes wonder if other parts of the world label their local specification as Type A.
The Chad Type-G.
Where’s the weirs tri-pin 240V one for US?
What do you mean? A twist-lock
Something like this.
Why are there so many that lay flat with prongs up???
Because when it’s plugged in (as it usually is) it lays closer to the wall and needs less clearance.
oh that? that is so you can learn a lesson
Type B: °⌓°
It’s the saddest because it’s the safest.
It’s definitely not the safest
It’s even almost the least safe. Topped only by type A.
so that is more likely a face of “oh the horrors I have seen”
Thankfully Tom Scott can tell us which one is best:
Type G right? Those are our counties plugs and every time I’ve watched videos people love all the safety features.
Indeed!
Tom’s got every right to be proud for the British plug. It’s super over engineered and a love it.
…until you step on one due to its flat back and split your head open on a coffee table.
They are worse than Lego on the floor.
People in the continental Europe: “Fine. We concede the British plug is a Truly Worthy Adversary to the one true plug, Schuko (Type F).”
I like when I go to some hotels and they have “international sockets” - basically the bastard child of all these sockets.
Also called a fire and electrocution hazard.
The plug design from my country looks elegant and rational, all the rest are koo-koo-krazy-town.
– everyone
Type B should be Type O. Looks so Negative.
Type I best. I don’t have anything to back that up but also it does stay in pretty good and it’s my one so yeah
Why would they invented a plugs that’s not grounded? (Type A and C)
I fucking hate it because my country’s default plugs is type C. Caused me so much trouble in damaged electronics, shocked, and the effort to make a grounded line for each individual electronics myself.
devices with double insulation don’t need a ground connection
A is much less of a pain than C. At least in most cases the plug pinches into the outlet and stays in place.
I’ve used C while traveling for my charger and The weight of a few cords wants to drag that fucker out every time.
Also worth noting that A can come in the polarized (one plug slightly larger, fits one way) or non-polarised (doesn’t matter) variety.
Your neutral should be bonded to ground anyway. If you have current on the neutral that needs the ground path, something is wrong.
That really depends on the network. The only connection between PE and N might be at the power station (TN-S) or there might be no wire at all (TT).
All the house I wired had neutral bonded to ground wire at the panel.
Hi, so should I just grounded the neutral wire from the fuse box (the one that goes from the pole into the house) instead of running a ground wire to each devices?
Type c is commonly used in my country for small appliances as it can be used with type E and F plugs which are used everywhere
Does Finland use C outlets, though?
At least in the US, just about every outlet has a ground port (Type B), even if the device you’re plugging in has only a 2-prong plug. I’ve only seen the Type A outlet in one really old building.
Lots of old houses in the US still have a bunch of the Type A outlet. My first apartment did for most outlets.
Now, what’s really fun is Knob and Tube wiring, where the hot and neutral lines are separate wires. Which means they tended to be run in separate directions if it was convenient for the asshole from a century ago to run it that way.
Finland uses C and F, where F is for grounded and C is for laptop chargers and such that don’t need grounding.
Remember, all this stuff started over a century ago. The main application was electric incandescent lights, which are fine to run with only two wires.
the non grounded plugs are usually only used on double isolated devices, like your phone charger.
double isolated basically means all the outputs are only referenced to each other and not to ground, so you won’t get a shock by touching a usb plug, where you absolutely would if you touched live wire, where the reference is earth
my pc case shocked me when I touched it, not a huge shock like live wires but enough for you to feel a little pain (like static shock on winter day). My phone charger also shocked me the same way when i touched the metal part of the USB head.
yea PC power supplies do need the earth pin, but i’m surprised the usb also shocked you, maybe a faulty adapter?
It’s a $80 GAN charger from Ugreen and the C-to-C cable that came with my iPhone.
I would be a big sad chump if it’s a faulty brick. But thanks, I’ll find a way to troubleshoot that.
Funny enough I got shocked by a USB port once because it was “grounded”. I have my PC plugged into a fairly beefy power strip, and after getting zapped I figured out that the outlet the power strip plugged into was not grounded. So the power strip acted as a mediocre transformer, putting about 70v through the ground wire my PC was plugged into, then the grounded metal of the USB port.
Surprisingly didn’t fry anything in my PC, even that USB port still works just fine. Went through and checked all my outlets were properly grounded after that, thankfully it was just the one I needed to fix.
Remember, all sockets are Type C if you push hard enough.
Edit: this advice applies equally to USB.
But why male models?
Type G is UK and we have the best plugs in the world. Go watch any videos on YouTube discussing all the safety features. Work of art they are.
Eh, the fusing on the plug is a dealbreaker for me, especially with that load potential
Other features are present in AU (three pin safety, switched outlets, etc)
What? You’re against a fuse in the plug? So you’d rather the circuit breaker cuts off everything if one thing fails?
Edit: After searching online it’s not even a debate. The UK has the best plugs.
Germany and Australia also have highly regarded plugs but still ranked 2 and 3 respectively.
We have fuses are only a requirement for our ring main system though, most countries dont use that.
True.
What happens when a device fails in a non Type G plug country? Does the whole house go off, a portion of it, or just that device?
As I understand it, just a portion. So where we tend to have breakers for something like, downstairs sockets, upstairs sockets, downstairs lights, upstairs lights, cooker etc. they would have it broken down far more granularly so maybe a single room or even multiple breakers for a single room and limited to much lower currents. Like our breakers are for 32 amps generally, theirs might be 16 or lower.
Thank you for answering my curiosity.
I still don’t see how that would be better than fused plugs where only the device will go off, even if it was more granular I wouldn’t want the whole room to cut off just because one thing failed. I’m not an electrician so obviously don’t know the intricacies of it all, just every time I’ve seen plugs discussed ours are top.
Ok. What happens if you pull 15amp load on a 10a circuit?
It would blow the fuse and likely trip the circuit breaker as they’re rated for 10amps.
The fuse is part of why it’s the safest.
The fuse offers per device protection, as well as per room/area.
E.g. you have a lamp that draws 1A. It’s cable is rated for 3A. It has a malfunction and starts drawing 10A. This won’t pop a breaker, but will overload the cable. Eventually it could catch fire from overheating. If it has a 3A slow blow fuse, it will kill the fuse before it kills the cable.
It also helps to isolate problems rapidly to 1 device.
yeah but the only reason it happened was because you use ring mains.
aint’ nothing going to convince me that shit belongs in the 21st century.
The ring main was the impetus for it. However it allows for safe down rating at the plug. My lamps don’t need 13A flex. If the only safety system is a 13A breaker, then you’re stuck with it, or risking a cable overload
They are extremely sturdy and safe, but they are too large and unwieldy. Infinitely better than the schuko plug though. No idea what kind of insane people thought a circular plug that has to be plugged in one direction a good idea. Always fun to spin around your plug hoping your prongs are lined up.
a circular plug that has to be plugged in one direction
Two directions since it’s reversible, unlike Type G. Also the guides on the left and right help a lot with alignment. But none of these are perfect, really. If Type L was recessed and had shorter prongs then maybe…
Or just standardize USB-AC.
