The biggest surprise for me was the https://hexbear.net count, an instance I hardly interact with.

Community Count Community Subscriber Count
beehaw.org 6 133450
hexbear.net 33 663204
lemdro.id 1 17052
lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 15907
lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 53006
lemmy.ml 14 356460
lemmy.one 1 16257
lemmy.world 39 851950
lemmynsfw.com 2 33586
sh.itjust.works 1 16006
sopuli.xyz 1 14093

The data this is based on comes from https://lemmyverse.net where you can just download a full json of the data they have (I excluded all communities marked as “suspicious”)

EDIT: The data if you sort by active users last month:

Community Count Community Active Month Count
awful.systems 1 2616
feddit.org 2 7363
feddit.uk 2 5289
hexbear.net 1 2952
lemdro.id 1 2898
lemm.ee 3 8898
lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 11422
lemmy.ca 3 14910
lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 13752
lemmy.ml 10 54949
lemmy.world 57 338384
lemmy.wtf 1 3602
lemmy.zip 3 12020
mander.xyz 1 11469
sh.itjust.works 5 37365
slrpnk.net 3 10897
sopuli.xyz 2 10070
ttrpg.network 1 4107

Community Count:

Community Users:

  • KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    anyone have any guesses as to why lemmy.world is so big? Scale/size advantage? Reliability advantage? Name recognition? What do we think is the culprit here.

    And whilst i’m here, anybody want to explain the source of lemmy.ml to me? I only know it as the instance where mad people yell at me from lol.

    perhaps a more “ambiguous” federation system would be better. having community instances is nice and all, but having one literally just be lemmy.world seems a little bit antithetical to me.

    • FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today
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      If I am not mistaken, ML was made by a couple of Fediverse Developers, but their moderation policies are comparable to Elon Musk so nobody goes there.

      World has good branding, will moderate, and has some of the best uptime stats.

    • ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net
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      I bounced between a few instances and .world seemed to always be up and available. Not to mention all the communities on .world.

      I don’t have an allegiance. Open more communities in other instances or migrate the .world ones there.

      I just want to post.

    • TheHarpyEagle@lemmy.world
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      I was a reddit Sync user and was super bummed when (large scale) API access was shut off, so I jumped on the chance to use Sync for Lemmy. It defaulted to world for signups, presumably for ease of use for migrating reddit users. Knowing that Sync already had a loyal audience that was willing to put in a little effort to migrate, it seems the dev opted to make everything as similar to the reddit UX as possible, including registration.

      Now that I’m more familiar with the fediverse, I’ve been considering migrating to a more specialized instance that matches my interests. Truthfully, though, it seems unlikely that much of anything would change if I did since I’m going to keep using the same app, so I’ve been slow to move.

      To compare this with my experience with Mastodon, I was absolutely overwhelmed by the idea of instances and really had no idea which to join, nor did I have a familiar app to work with. I figured it out eventually, but a lot of the artists I follow didn’t or didn’t have time to, so overall I haven’t spent much time on it. I’ve spent way too much time on Lemmy so far.

    • auzy@lemmy.world
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      In my case, I went to the biggest one after leaving beehaw.

      I left beehaw because it was clear there was a double standard for one admin between minorities and the rest of us where an admin overlooked someone from a minority acting like a total ass and starting a fight… and blamed me simply because my opinion half agreed with an article that was posted.

      Which was such a pity because they other admin there is awesome (and I loved the idea of the instance), but I’m worried it will become a echo chamber eventually unfortunately where you simply can’t discuss things, but only agree with people

    • Demdaru@lemmy.world
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      About lemmy.world - when running from reddit, it was literally first on the list of advised ones everywhere. Also, biggest, so it had most communities. I am actually pretty much only aware of .world, .dbzer0 and sh.itjust.works. From the normal ones anyway.

      lemmy.ml is basically an instance made by creators of lemmy from what I know.

    • Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      Defederating from Hexbear probably didn’t hurt. I remember when the users were literally flooding .world circlejerking about being the biggest and best instance and that any instance that defederated from them was full of transphobic Nazis.

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        Are you from another dimension as everyone else where this happened? Because they never federated in the dimension I live in. Very interesting you’re able to cross this gap, does the name Nelson Mandella mean anything to you?

        • Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          Yeah, it must have been on a different instance. I have a terrible memory for places, which probably bleeds over. I distinctly remember the circlejerking and getting lots of messages about how people who don’t like Hexbear are transphobic, though.

      • Fidel_Cashflow@lemmy.ml
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        .world pre-emptively defederated from hexbear before hexbear ever entered federation. you are making things up wholecloth.

      • KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        dbzer0 had a few issues with hexbear and i believe we defederated from hexbear? I honestly cant remember, i blocked that instance a while ago.

        It was probably every instance, ML included.

        • Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          It may have been after someone proposed defederating from them, but I’m pretty sure it didn’t happen because I’ve seen users around recently. I have the instance filtered, but I still need to block the users, same with ML.

    • Jiggle_Physics@lemmy.world
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      When I first got on Lemmy I signed up for a small instance my friend was on. Mostly ended up lurking. Before ditching that account, because I forgot the password, and was looking to go to a different instance anyway, I looked up what instances had the most federations. world had a lot, and no hexbear. It also has a old style interface, and blocks NSFW content, so I can more safely browse in public/at work. So I switched to it with my main and then separately logged into places with open NSFW content.

    • qaz@lemmy.world
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      Lemmy.world has kept open signups open during every large Reddit exodus while many others didn’t. It’s also decently reliable, has decent moderation and is well known. The reason why people didn’t move after is probably because instance migration on Lemmy isn’t possible* so they just stick with what they use.

      *Yes I don’t consider exporting/importing followed communities a migration

    • Kaiyoto@lemmy.world
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      4 个月前

      I remember I picked Lemmy.world to create an account only because I had no idea what I was doing and it seemed like the only one which had merit at the time (I know how things work better now.) Now that I know how decentralization works I’ll probably open a new account on another server when I get time.

    • voracread@lemmy.world
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      4 个月前

      No gatekeeping. We did not have to answer any question, write any essay showing we were worthy etc.

      Reddit refugees were welcome no question asked.

      Once were in, we found the admin/founder to be cool, open and reasonable.

      We stayed.

    • Eiri@lemmy.world
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      5 个月前

      I heard what lemmy is. I googled Lemmy. I downloaded an app. I pressed sign up. I ended up on Lemmy.world.

      I’ll be honest I don’t even really understand what different instances do.

      • KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        4 个月前

        an instance can be thought of like a reigonal server for a game, but for a community interest instead. dbzer0 is more on the fringes partaking more actively in piracy and AI shit, as well as other shit like anarchy and personal liberty/freedoms at a more broad scale.

        Sometimes they’re regionally specific, like the midwest instance, other times they’re global like the .world instance.

        you do have instance specific communities, and users obviously, but it’s also open to the broader “fediverse” as well. The only technicality is that i’m tied to dbzer0 since that’s where my acc sits, though i can still poke around outside of it.

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        They can be oriented to some type of content: For example, the many feddit.something are targetting people by countries or langages (.it, .uk, etc.). slrpnk.net is solarpunk oriented, mander.xyz science oriented. Litterature.cafe is books, reading and writing oriented.
        And they can offer different moderation policies: People on lemmynsfw.com probably want to see NSFW content. lemmy.world has a policy against it. lemmy.dbzer0.com allow for open discussion about piracy that many instances forbid and so on.

        It you don’t see the difference in instances, it is probably that you are about fine on your local instance. But if one day, you hear about a community you can’t access, maybe that is because it is blocked by lemmy.word and you could access it from another instance

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    Your data quality is questionable. You list only 2 communities for feddit.org. Lemmy Explorer has 148. I doubt that they’re all ‘suspicious’. And if they are, then that flag is itself suspicious.

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    5 个月前

    Probably unintended side-effect of this post: A few people like me discovering new communities to follow. Thank you!

  • cron@feddit.org
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    I think subscriber count is probably not ideal. I’ve seen communities where the number subscribers is 10x the number of active monthly users.

    For other communities, subscribers is about equal to active users.

  • Resol van Lemmy@lemmy.world
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    I might as well leave lemmy.world

    I’m only concerned about how to transfer all my stuff to the new account. Mastodon makes it super easy.

  • moonlight@fedia.io
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    Very interesting, although I’d like to see how different threadiverse software like mbin fits into this.

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      It uses the lemmy API, so it is plattform specific. AP has no metric for active users in the magazine yet, only instance wide. So for mbin only total subscriber count would be a metric

  • LarmyOfLone@lemm.ee
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    Duplicate instances are a problem imho. You can see the network effect synergy working by how many communities flock to the biggest instance lemmy.world.

    There also need to be tools to merge two communities on separate instances, or move them.

    Two of my niche instances tried to leave reddit, but then there were two versions, one on .ml and one on .world. Confusing. Maybe there need to be reviews for communities or instances.

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      No, it’s just a big community by itself already. So while some big instances have it blocked, they have enough users to just have activity from their own instance.

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        It isn’t big though. They just get kicked out of everywhere else they go for being disruptive assholes, so for every community there’s a hexbear duplicate

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          lol, what disruption did they do when LW “pre-emptively defederated” them “as a last resort”? Or did they just get banned for being leftists?

        • Binette@lemmy.ml
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          Hexbear was there before the reddit exodus, so this make no sense.

          Please verify your claims before saying nonsense.

          • TexMexBazooka@lemm.ee
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            Because they - specifically Chapo trap house-got all of their communities banned from Reddit years before.

            You are not making the argument you think you are

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              When you say “It isn’t big”, you’re comparing it to reddit? That would basically dwarf all Lemmy instances combined lmao.

              This post was comparing Lemmy instances with other Lemmy instances. Hexbear was its own website for a while, and only decided to start trying federation like a few months after the whole reddit thing. They’re fine on their own even, so I don’t know why people keep acting as if they necessarily want to be federated.

          • WalrusDragonOnABike [they/them]@lemmy.today
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            Games is the largest games com by far in terms of posts and comments (150k comments and 15k post vs 71k comments and 3k posts on lemmy world…

            News has most posts than any other news and about as many comments as lemmyworld.

            Politics has the most posts of any politics coms, but far less comments than lemmyworld’s.

            History basically has no competitors (150k comments vs 7k for the next largest)

            Movies also has no competitors (75k comments vs 9k for the next largest).

            Videos has 56k comments vs lemmyworld’s 13k

            Music has 45k comments vs lemmyworld’s 6k

            Urbanism has 44k comments vs fuckcar’s 19k

            Granted, given Hexbear has been around for 4 years, the number of comments/posts is largely a side effect of age. But it also means calling them duplicates is probably misleading. OTOH, the main trans community there has been very active recently, dwarfing all other trans communities combined.

            • ZeroHora@lemmy.ml
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              They are more “community” than the ex-redditor secluded island that is most of the others instances, that’s definitely the side effect of age.

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                Hexbear (if you disagree with their politics) is basically like a white american from the deep south. They’re perfectly reasonable to talk to as long as it isn’t politics