cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/41143386
By Areeb Ullah
Published date: 2 January 2026 13:52 GMT
Last update: 08:52 ESTAn activist held on remand on charges linked to the direct action group Palestine Action in UK prison has been hospitalised for the fifth time after going on hunger strike for more than 50 days.
Kamran Ahmed is one of eight pro-Palestine activists who began a hunger strike last year after Shabana Mahmood, the home secretary, failed to respond to a letter setting out concerns over their treatment.
The group’s demands include immediate bail, an end to interference with their personal communications in prison, and the de-proscription of Palestine Action, which accuses the UK government of complicity in Israel’s genocide in Gaza.
I don’t like that Israel was formed either, but they were. That genie is out of the bottle. People have been born there for generations now, it’s not their fault, and they should have self-determination just like anybody else.
Let’s also not pretend that if Israel and Palestine were united under one banner that things would go well for the minority population.
A two state solution is the least bad outcome, and that’s why even Palestine themselves support that outcome.
Those groups didn’t cripple an already incapacitated policewoman by hitting them in the back with a sledgehammer.
Those groups didn’t ram-raid a factory with workers inside.
Those groups didn’t break onto an RAF base and destroy the engines of two jets.
There’s a reason why only PA was proscribed and none of the others were. I’ve been to a pro-Palestine march and may go to another if one is near me. I have no fear of arrest, as I’m not a supporter of PA or any of their above actions.
No different to Thatchers position on South Africa. The black south african’s being tortured and crippled has happened for too long for anything to change, so we just have to live with it right?
Most people in occupied Palestine have chosen to move there, they are precisely at fault and are choosing to be neglectful parents bringing a child into an occupation.
That is also a zionist position, israel existing and continuing to exist is an admission of wanting the apartheid system to continue and the suffering that exists today to be committed against the next generation. The ‘israelis’ will be fine doing the same thing white south african’s did, move to Perth.
The minority population is also the current one living under apartheid so I’m not sure what your reason would be to say that improving the situation would be not worth doing this idea anyway. Its starting to sound like you don’t actually want the Palestinians lives to ever materially improve, even via minor reforms.
What we have now is what the two state solution will end up in eventually, so rather than put 2-3 more generations through the same suffering to start again, we can just skip to the part where the white settlers move back to Russia, Lithuania and Brooklyn.
The police officer chose to brutalise someone, they don’t get to complain when people defend themselves. She could’ve stayed home, but being a police officer demands you be the kind of person to choose cruelty, so what happened is precisely what was always going to happen.
Also important to note the police officer isn’t crippled, just a small detail you need to update.
Thinking people have the right to self-determination is very different to Thatcher’s views on South Africa, don’t be daft.
Incorrect.
No, Israel existing is an admission of reality. People there today aren’t at fault for its formation, and like it or not, those people are human beings, not cattle. They have the right to self-determination.
Think of it like Northern Ireland. Should their right to self determination be ignored just because many of their ancestors were settlers who probably shouldn’t have been there? No. Of course not. The people there today are not responsible for the sins of their ancestors, and they have the right to self-determination.
I’m not really sure why you’ve put Israelis in scare quotes. Most white South Africans stayed in South Africa.
And Jesus, I didn’t realise you wanted to oust Israelis from their home as well. Surely you realise that ethnic cleansing like that is a rather fringe viewpoint?
Didn’t happen.
Defending yourself is taking a sledgehammer out with you and hitting a woman lying on the ground in the back repeatedly until their back is broken?
She was crippled. Her back was broken.
Your love of violence and, seemingly, ethnic cleansing in quite disgusting. I think I’m just going to end this conversation here. I don’t think you’re being rational. Defending behaviour like that has no place in civil discussion.
E: omfg I’m such a moron. A 2.5 year old account that suddenly became active 3 months ago and speaks exclusively about Israel. I’ve spent my morning debating with a bot or a troll.
Some of us take breaks from websites?
If we are talking about comment history of course you’ve been active in a lot of political threads taking the side of israel. So I’m not sure what this point is meant to make?
Your post history seems… inorganic. It’s very strange to post a few normal comments 2.5 years ago, then 3 months ago start exclusively talking about Israel and nothing else.
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I’d never support the Israeli government, they’re routinely committing war crimes and breaking international laws. And as I’ve said, I’ve attended a pro-Palestine demonstration and would likely do so again.
I don’t know where the hell you’ve got this idea from that I like Israel.
Thinking people have the right to self determination, having a distaste for attacking incapacitated people with sledgehammers, and being against the violence and ethnic cleansing you’re gunning for is not the same as supporting Israel.
But you just said you support the two state solution? Or has this conversation made you realise the ‘israeli’ government is objectively wrong and cannot continue? Are you finally a one stater and want to enact Thawabit?
Supporting a two state solution is not the same as supporting the Israeli government.
Again, Palestine wants a two state solution. Are they “fully Zionist” too?
And why can’t you answer any of the questions I’ve asked above?
What? I joined the fediverse on the first big exodus from reddit and didn’t find anything useful to participate in.
I don’t talk about warhammer because I would just build paint and play it.
I don’t talk about death metal because i’ll just listen to it instead.
Politics is one of the few things where talking about it is the “doing”, so of course its all going to be that.
I’m not talking about ‘Israel’. I’m talking about Palestine and the swift movements of the UK government to remove all of our supposed rights as soon as people protest about our country’s complicity in the genocide.
Again this line. The police officer attempted to brutalise someone, and they defended themselves.
Important to note that removing ‘israelis’ from homes is not ethnic cleansing. They are not in their homes, its the Palestinians they have stolen. The same way it wasn’t ethnic cleansing in South Africa in restoring equality like Musk and Trump say.
Why do you keep lying?
Why do you keep putting Israel and Israeli in quotes?
You’re talking about Israel
Our country has been pretty pro-Palestine as of late. What do you want us to do, nuke Israel?
Didn’t happen.
It’s not “Israelis” it’s Israelis. And it absolutely is ethnic cleansing, by definition. You’re advocating for forcibly removing a demographic from their homes.
Yes they are.
So you also think hundreds of millions of Americans and Canadians should be forcibly deported to the UK, Ireland, Germany, etc?
Can you provide an exact ratio of post history that would avoid this? For every comment I make on world politics should I make 3-4 in a hobby community?
Or is it specifically “Israel” that has this prerequisite? If I exclusively talked about renters rights and mass construction of social housing would you raise the same concern?