• AeonFelis@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    Even worse. The police has both the authority and the budget to:

    1. Test candidates before they hire them as cops.
    2. Train their cops.
    3. Discipline the violent cops.

    Protest organizers can’t do these things. Anyone who wants to join the protest just needs to arrive at the appointed time and place, and if they behave badly - the ones allowed to punish them are not the protest organizers but the police.

  • RealFknNito@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    So close to being self aware. What happens when you reverse the roles with the same logic then? Judging a police force for their most violent cops but not judging a demonstration for their most violent participants is what? Are you suddenly a ‘freedom fighter’ because you believe your cause is just? History proves the worst people always think their path forward is the righteous one. I really wish we’d stop getting distracted by this shit and fight against the real oppressors of us all: The wealthy.

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        4 months ago

        I’m 14 and that’s deep. Way to sidestep the actual point.

        The counter to hypocrisy is to be principled, yet that sign seems to accuse people of the exact thing it represents. I’ll ask again, if your enemies are oppressors, does that make you a self-claimed freedom fighter? Rebel? Or something less flattering - Terrorist.

        • spujb@lemmy.cafe
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          4 months ago

          yeah grabbing the hammer is a remarkably wise plan as far as self defense in this hypothetical

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            4 months ago

            Wonderful, then you’d agree we should get rid of all hammers then too right? Clearly it’s the fault of the tool, not the one wielding it.

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                4 months ago

                Yeah it’s hard to stay consistent when warped logic is applied to different scenarios. I’ll spell it out for you, Mr. White.

                If a murderer uses a hammer to murder, you don’t ban hammers, you go after the murderer. So then why when the wealthy use the police as a tool, you try to ban police, instead of going after the wealthy?

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                  4 months ago

                  breh you asked what we do if a man hits me on the head with a hammer

                  my genuine immediate reaction would be to wrestle the hammer out of control of the man

                  but for some reason you think that my first reaction, being in imminent danger of immediate injury and death, is to start canvassing the neighborhood? gathering signatures to ban hammers from the local Lowes or something? meanwhile the guy with the hammer still has his hammer and is beating the shit out of me. i actually would not do that.

                  i’m being quite consistent where you are being quite silly 😛

                  edit: also no one said “instead” but you. pardon me for not taking this seriously i just don’t care (about your messed up hypothetical; i care deeply about institutional violence)

  • spujb@lemmy.cafe
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    4 months ago

    i support this sign and its artist but someone needs to teach them forearm anatomy they kind of said

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      4 months ago

      Yes! I was actually admiring the artistry of the fists and the shadowing and everything and then I followed it down to the shapeless skinny forearms. looks like they put all their effort into the fists and couldn’t be bothered to make realistic looking forearms

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    4 months ago

    … but it’s just a few bad apples. Most cops are very fine people.

    Edit: /s Jesus

  • Telodzrum@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    Fine message, but if you have 33 words on your protest sign you’re really missing the mark.

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      4 months ago

      internet users be like, i can’t read anything longer than a short tweet actually

      edit: also ignoring that this poster made it to the internet and got >1k reads and counting on one platform alone. 😛 epitome of nitpicking the unnecessary

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        4 months ago

        You’re making a sign, not writing the abstract to a political science paper. You get like a dozen syllables, max.

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      4 months ago

      am I the only one who counted? it’s only 25. you could have used the real number you lazy ass.

  • dQw4w9WgXcQ@lemm.ee
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    4 months ago

    Can we take a second to appreciate that those hands were drawn very well? Like, most times I draw a hand, it just ends up looking like a stupid blob, but this poster has gotten the shape and proportions pretty decently. And not just once, but twice. Good.

  • Mammothmothman@lemmy.ca
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    4 months ago

    Its even more true when the most violent in a protest are working with the cops or are cops themselves.