• sinovictorchan@lemmygrad.ml
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    Racism does not mean that a person are equally racist towards all member of a race. Usually, a racist white person exclude one or a few black people from his racism. There is also the conditional racism that force black people to follow certain restrictive or derogatory stereotypes to evade the racism of a childish white person. There is also the racism that subjects black people to an inferior subordinate role as condition to evade racism. Some racist white employers can evade accusation of racism by banning employment of black women and forcing black men into certain sector of jobs.

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      White people are the fragilest race on the planet one little criticism and they immediately start throwing a childish tantrum

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      “plz, let me be racist! i feel triggered by the existence of people of color and they’re mean to me!”

      master race, everyone!

    • La Dame d'Azur@lemmygrad.ml
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      Racism is prejudice + power.

      It’s not some vibe you get when someone is mean to you.

      Grade Schoolers can understand this. Why can’t you?

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              Ah the classic “dictionary screenshot” lol man this took me back to 2016 😂 you know that dictionary definitions don’t always reflect what’s in reality? Even Merriam-Webster said so, since you take so much stock in dictionary definitions 💀

              Just embarrassing work LMAO

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          I don’t know how anyone can say this unironically when the entire history of racism has demonstrated beyond a shadow of a doubt that this is simply not true.

          Did you just sleep through history class after getting to the 16th century?

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            Racism doesn’t require power. It often comes with it, but it doesn’t require it.

            I know most of you guys aren’t great with defining basic things, but racism? The very name is a giant clue lol. Race-ism. Race-ism.

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              The dictionary is a resource whose purpose is to help foster understanding.

              It is not a “See? You’re wrong!” card to pull out when you don’t have an actual counter argument.

              You are refusing to think critically about this and it’s stunting your ability to actually engage in good faith since you’ve already made up your mind that you’re right and we’re wrong.

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                The dictionary has the literal definition lol. What you’re doing is trying to convince people that the definition is wrong so you can justify using the term to fit your agenda.

                Racism has nothing to do with power. It is easier for powerful people and groups to get away with racism, but that doesn’t mean that power is needed for racism to occur.

                Answer me this: if a black man is in a restaurant and has a Chinese waiter/server, and the black man says “get over here chink, take a break from eating your neighbours dog and get me a drink” while pulling his eyes to make them “squinty” - is that racist?

                What about if in a job interview in a black owned and run business, a white person applies and in the interview the black owners say “fuck off cracker we aren’t hiring any redneck inbred nascar loving hillbilly” - racist or not?

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                  Again: you are refusing to think critically and shutting out arguments rather than listening to them.

                  I’m not saying the dictionary is wrong; I’m saying the dictionary doesn’t offer a complete understanding - something you don’t seem to understand as you’re treating it like gospel. The dictionary is the beginning, not the end.

                  You are being willfully obtuse and acting in bad faith.

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      Are you saying those people are incorrect to point out that incidental prejudice against white people doesn’t uphold an institution of racism? Racism as it has been run by Europeans is a system that manages access to capital and disciplines workforces in the imperial core. That is more of a threat to white people than being called a fucking crackeroid

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          White as a concept of race derives from the institution of white supremacy. An institution of power which designates certain people as “white” and others as “non-white”, and then it designates white as superior and everyone else as inferior. This is why you can’t be racist against “white” people. Because there is no institution of power based on designating people as white and then treating them as inferior; it’s just the opposite.

          You can be rude to a person who is considered white. You can exclude them from things. You can even carry prejudices around about them (and if you do, it’s probably because you are dealing with them being the oppressor on a regular basis). None of those are the same thing as the oppressive experience of systemically enforced, institutional racism that “non-white” people experience on a daily basis.

          Do you see the difference? One is having a bad day. The other is being gunned down by a cop because your skin was the wrong color and you get no justice for it. One is some people may not like you because of what they’ve learned to expect from dealing with you. The other is being enslaved by you and treated as subhuman. One is occasionally you may not get special treatment because of reform attempts to even the playing field for people who are treated as subhuman. The other is having to work extra hard in everything just to get seen, much less seen as anything resembling an equal.

          There is no comparison. Some people who are considered white get confused somewhere in this and go “well my life was hard too!” Which is beside the point. The institution of white supremacy does not ensure that every “white” person has an ideal life. But it does ensure that a lot of non-white people live very short and traumatized lives as an exploited group of people, treated as subhuman. You can be white and still have a shit life. You can be non-white and somehow, despite everything, manage to have a relatively good life. But if you’re non-white, you are a special target for exploitation, specifically, if not a target of being murdered just for having the wrong skin color.

          I could go on. It’s night and day difference.

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            Racism is about treating people differently - more specifically badly - based on their race. It has nothing to do with power.

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              The conception of “white” as a race literally would not exist without the institutional power that made it so. It has everything to do with power.

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          The existence of your settler nation is a crime against the indigenous. Who are you to speak about racism against “white people”?

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          Words mean things. People don’t always mean the same thing by them. These definition games are pointless. White supremacy backs up a completely different kind of racism than “go white boy go!!!”, people are still being lynched and discriminated against for jobs in America to this day. It’s also attached to the world’s largest capital centers. It wields actual power via that discrimination!