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Back in the days we were paying 10$ for an album. Then Napster came.
Now we pay 100$ for a concert.
Try Metrolist maybe.
$10 an album? Before Napster there was literally a class action lawsuit against the music industry because albums were like $22
I bought my first album in 1977 for $7, which is $37 in today’s money. It’s pretty insane to think that the entire music industry back then was about getting people to pay $37 for a piece of plastic. Avocado toast eat your heart out.
I remember 1977. I started going to concerts and I saw the Led Zeppelin!
It was Yes (“Going for the One”) for me. Led Zeppelin was for the burnouts!
Sorry, I was doing a bit from Everclear lyrics. That’s super cool that you saw Yes for your first concert. My first concert was Aerosmith in 1992.
I just noticed yesterday, that existing subscribers can stay at the old price. There’s an option to switch to a “basic” plan, afaik you will lose access to audiobooks, but they only give 12h of those per month, for the 2 euros extra.
…are people really paying for a music subscription service to listen to the same music on repeat? I pay a service because I listen to like at least 4 new albums every week, minimum.
this post is just to placate a group of people. i prefer streaming for new music friday. i also don’t want another crate or hard drive of shit i lost interest in.
Me too. However I recognize that many people are content to listen to the same things they enjoyed in high school forever. In which case they definitely do not need streaming
I pay for Apple Music (well, technically I get it as part of Apple One) for one reason: the library matching function. I have half a gig of mp3s on my home computer, many of which are not on any streaming service, and apple makes them all available to every device I own.
For me, thats worth the monthly price.
You can host it yourself without paying apple.
You’d literally be paying yourself back after not much time at all.
I like Plex amp but there are quite a few options.
Wait…that’s a peak feature, rare apple W
It took me 10 listens to get into Jimi Hendrix. You are consuming quantity but quality requires effort.
This is making some significant assumptions, don’t you think? That I sample the buffet does not mean that I don’t also cherish and return to familiar recipes.
I’m assuming you have a similar amount of free time as me and are not able to fit in enough listens to become familiar.
I have no kids, no pets, and a job where I can listen to music the entirety of my shifts while working. I have music on in some capacity probably an average of 12 hours a day. 4 albums a week, even when listening to them each 6 six times, is a fraction of my listening.
Music listening is my primary “hobby” and interest.
In that case, what are your top 5 undiscovered gems that need 5+ listens to appreciate.
What are the modern Captain Beefhearts?
Dunno if I go actively searching for difficult music, so I may not have the best answer for that specifically, but here are 5 albums I consider hidden gems or underappreciated:
Horse Bitch - RIP Pistachio
Tattle Tale - Sew True
Gaytheist - The Mustache Stays
Codefendants - This Is Crime Wave
Irist - Gloria (actually an EP, if you’ll allow it).
These probably won’t take you 5+ listens to appreciate, but I do think they’re smaller releases worthy of greater attention. Hopefully that’s close enough for you. ✌️
Never heard of any of them, so a perfect response. Thanks!
or self inducing yourself into liking by listening to it so much
I don’t this works with all music.
The first few listens I thought it was garbage. But I decided it must be me who is wrong, not everyone else.
Or, that taste is subjective and that there is no right and wrong. You are allowed to not like something others do.
This is true, but you should really give something a good few listens before you come to a conclusion. Good things can turn bad just as much as bad things turn good.
I truly wonder where in my post I implied that I am drawing significant conclusions without giving something a good few listens. Again, I think you are making assumptions of my listening habits based on severly limited information presented to you.
Because if I listened to a minimum of 4 new albums a week then I wouldn’t have the time to repeat any.
It was applying your statistics to my habits.
No, I think you’re absolutely right and it’s comforting to know there are others who do this too. I have a kind of 3-5-7 trial period for getting into new music. If it’s crap but I want to give it a chance, I’ll do 3-5 album plays; if it’s ok but has potential I might not see, 5-7 plays. Anything challenging but enjoyable gets minimum 10 plays.
About the self inducement, that is making me question myself a little. There are things that I’ve tried over and over to get into that I just cannot no matter what, but I’m seriously questioning if it really is possible to “make” yourself like something through type of, I guess familiarity?
I think the counter argument to self inducement is that I can really go off something that I hear too many times (usually on the radio). Even if the first listen wasn’t too bad.
What is money for if not to waste completely when you don’t have to at all lol
*laughs in physical media*
*cries in disc rot*
*wonders what disc rot is*
It’s the terrible reason CDs and DVDs don’t last forever. Curse you, oxidation!
I did return to my old flac and mp3 collection. Got Foobar working again, found a nice skin and I’m rediscovering music that I that skipped over. I buy second-hand CDs when I find them. I’ve managed to get a digital copy of all my favourite albums and tracks.
I will keep Spotify though. A long time ago, I got friends to share their Discovery and Release Radar playlists. With my own, I have a nice spread of recommendations.
I need regular new music. Call it a search for unexpected dopamine. Spotify still picks new tracks that I really like. I also like Spotify Connect and the easily shared collaborative playlists.
The UK has less alternatives for music discovery. I don’t like Radio, way too much talking and ads.
I’ve got rid of Netflix, Prime. I’m getting Disney+ for free at the moment. Back to physical for film and TV.
For now, Spotify recommendations is worth the cost of entry.
Just the albums on my favorites list in Qobuz would have been around $10,000 USD to purchase in hi-res.
You can just rip it off Spotify.
Lossy
That reminds me I still need to export my spotify likes and migrate all that out
Honestly, I’m surprised that streaming has gone on this long before we have such enshtification taking place.
I’m basically down to just a single subscription now because the cost outweighs the ease of use and only keep my music streaming service because of work and I don’t want to be using self hosting on a company network.
Okay, but I can access my full library from anywhere at full quality from multiple devices, I have several 5,000 plus song playlists with little to no overlap between a few of them and I have had CDs lost or stolen and had drive failures delete digital libraries. But sure.
I don’t do it personally, but from what I understand, it’s really pretty easy to set up your own self-hosted music server to stream from.
I have jellyfin for movies/tv because there isn’t a more convenient option available. I am not going to VPN from my phone or anywhere to home to play music when Tidal is available.
5000 song playlist
That sounds like digital hoarding. Why do you need a 2 week long playlist?
Shuffle
When I was just a lad looking for my true vocation
My father said "Now son, this choice deserves deliberation…
Though you could be a doctor……or perhaps a financier…
My boy, why not consider a more challenging career!"
They mock you for subscribing to an online service. I mock you for subscribing to WoW instead of FFXIV. We are not the same.
(Insert FFXIV free trial meme here)
FFXIV is just a drip pageant. Seems like it’s little else but people standing around role playing fetishes.
And WoW isn’t? The big advantage FFXIV has there is dye channels on their armor instead of recolored sets (though WoW is better in the way you collect transmogs without having to actually store the item somewhere). And you’ve clearly never been to Goldshire or seen the lvl 1 trolls dancing naked on mailboxes in Orgrimmar. WoW is full of people ERPing.
The biggest difference between the two is that WoW doesn’t give a damn about the story and each xpac is obsolete when the new one releases, while FFXIV puts the story first with each xpac being a new chapter and keeps content as evergreen as it can. WoW also caters to their endgame raiders above everyone else, while FFXIV claims to put casual players first (though whether or not this is true is hotly debated in the community at any given time).
So you successfully pointed out how the players of both games are obnoxious and ruin any incentive to play either title.
And it’s funny how you claim that Wow is full of people ERPing as if it were somehow different- right after I said the same of FFXIV.
That’s the thing about multiplayer games - no matter the game, people never change. Some games incentivize different behaviors, but people will be people and will ruin any game if you let them. I think FFXIV does a much better job in this regard by incentivizing players to treat new players more nicely than WoW does, but that’s my personal experience. You can meet assholes in any game.
And I wasn’t claiming that FFXIV doesn’t have ERP. Merely pointing out the hypocrisy of criticizing it when WoW has the exact same issues that you criticized FFXIV for having.
Besides, this is all a heavy discussion for what was just referencing two memes.
I’ve heard the plot is actually pretty good
I’ve never played any of the FFs :/
people pay for music? Wow at least give you something for the money, although pricey. others like RS trying to justify thier price increase without substantial increase in content.
Paying for music is worthwhile. Ditch Spotify. Embrace Bandcamp.
For some reason pirating music libraries is really hard. Probably bc everyone uses Spotify
Get a library card! My local small town library has access to a surprising number of nearby libraries, and if I’m willing to wait a week or two for the item to be available and get transferred, I’ve been able to get some decently non-mainstream stuff for free. For more obscure stuff, bandcamp is pretty awesome.
Try Usenet
https://1337x.to/ has been my piracy go-to for years and they’ve rarely missed.
Hint: Discography is what you’re looking for if you want everything the artist made.
I do have a Qobuz subscription, I just rip whatever I want to listen and stream from my home server.
You can also do a free trial for a month and just use a disposable e-mail to redo it every month, if you don’t want to pay anything.
