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Good video, very much worth watching despite the length. New UI will look something like this:
with an option for a more classic look.
Looks like an enourmous UX improvement too, and a rewrite to QT and eliminating a lot of technical debt will make development faster.
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They had to give us something for all that telemetry to keep their entirely educated and tech savy user base on board. 🙄
Audacity UI has looked basically the same since the first time I used the app in 2006
Tenacity has replaced this years ago. Fuck around, find out!
And what exactly does Tenacity bring to the table other than a name replace across the code-base?
The non-destructive editing and realtime effects alone are a huge jump in capability between the current and old versions of Audacity, and that’s before we even discuss UI improvements
Ardour is milea ahead on all that anyway. Tenacity is a simple multi-channel recorder. That’s all it needs to be
Hard agree! It fills a really specific use case, for ease of use, relatively simple projects (though like any simple tech, artists gonna art and make something massive lol).
Aurduor and the like (I jumped over to Reaper) are truly excellent options for more intense projects.
From what I could tell when I looked into it after a comment someone left on [email protected], some people were very upset at the privacy implications of Audacity adding an update detection mechanism (which can be turned off, and which is not included at all in the default build if you build it yourself).
Are people are actually upset about an auto update feature? A feature that has been pretty standard in programs for a very long time?
I understood some of the upset when they added telemetry, but auto-update?
Not even auto-update. Just auto detect updates. Then you go and download it yourself manually.
Auto-update-detection meant that the software was calling out to a remote server, so they updated the TOS to reflect that, and people got upset.
afaik most distros and flathub package it without that for obvious reasons
(for package management, not weird concerns like “they’re adding an entire http library to audacity for this so they must be in the process of using it for something else”)
Yeah… Who the hell uses audacity anymore.
i’ve yet to meet a single person who uses tenacity
Me
Basically everyone.
they backtracked on the privacy policy and said they had really overzealous lawyers that they somehow mistrusted lawyers doing so “out of an abundance of caution” so i’m still giving them one final chance here since that issue was resolved rather quickly (within two weeks, which is why i’m not absolving them and giving them a chance, but it’s been uneventful since 2021 so i think that strike’s gonna expire in a year)
and i don’t think the telemetry was every an issue since it was always going to be opt-in
tenacity does not have the rally useful beats and measures feature for some reason
They also pissed off a lot of contributors and community members. Tenacity for me!
…through what i mentioned. audacity for now!!
if the concern is just about telemetry, I seriously wonder why Tenacity isn’t just a soft fork of Audacity, like VSCodium is to VS code, or Librewolf to Firefox.
that way you get the best of both worlds, the amazing new features in Audacity, without the worry of corporate control
telemetry and a reverted privacy policy change that lost some goodwill, but i agree
Because then you’re just describing Audacity. The concerning feature has to be intentionally activated by the user. And if you download and build it yourself then that part of the code isn’t even accessible. You have to modify the code to activate it before you build it. I’m actually glad with the way they handled it. They listen to the user base and if you follow tantacrul he regularly consults changes with the users.
Yep. Tenacity all the way!
OMG! I read that as Full AI Overhaul.
They are adding “AI” features in a collaboration with Intel, but luckily they’re minor additions like ML based noise reduction
Also subtitling with whisper, which is awesome
This isn’t new, the features have been in the app for a while now
In other words tasks that “AI” is actually good for, not attempting to generate your music or apply some kind of “magic filter”.
(Based on the screenshot only) Where’s the menu gone?
Screenshot from macos, so I assume in the top bar
Thanks. I tend to worry with redesigns these days.
He made a comment in the video that people have been running versions of audacity that have not been updated in 10 years. I went and had a look at the version I had installed. Yep.
I actually assumed it did have an auto update feature and they’re just wasn’t any updates.
All the changes seem awesome, looking forward to trying out version 4
Damn that looks clean.
I wonder what happened to it’s forks, Tenacity & Audacium
Tenacity is still active
I remember that there was an issue with mainline audicity, like they put malware in it or something? And that’s why it was forked?
I’ve long been hoping for a FOSS alternative to Garage Band. I think LMMS is the closest but it lacks live music recording, its UI is miserable, and the last release was 2020. It would be great if someone could merge Audacity and LMMS.
This is pretty high on my list of coding projects that I would support if I didn’t need to spend most of my time serving capital.
i literally just found out i want something like this too.
I’ve actually switched to Ocenaudio for what little I do and have been happy.
It’s not open source, sadly…
It’s looking freaking gorgeous. Tentacrul is the bomb. His work on MuseScore is arguably the best UX/UI in the FOSS world. It even beats most if not all of the proprietary alternatives in the same category.
He also did a great tribute video to Tim Smith / Cardiacs. Was already in my good books, went beyond with that one.
I wish he would bring his skills to freecad 😂😂 it is needed!
I actually like FreeCAD and its UI a lot and the recent improvements are huge! Yes it has its quirks but for a tool as versatile as FreeCAD they are acceptable.
Hope the new UI fixes the FFT view lagging.
should, since it ports all the Ui from wxwidgets to qt
cos the ui is why people abandoned it… :picard:
the audacity (sorry :D)
Holy shit yes. Also while we’re at it please guys add an option to put the timeline in just seconds instead of minutes:seconds
