I love seeding.
There are clients with a “stop seeding” button that works prior to finishing the download. Just sayin’. Still seeds while it’s active, but stops right after.
This is how you end up with a 99.7% completed gzip of bob Dylan’s entire catalog and have to restart on a new, uncompressed stream that’s 10x larger
Fortunately the significantly improved download speed from the 6 heroic always-online seeders mitigated your concerns somewhat. But where were they before?
Can confirm.
about to go postal rn on god frfr
When VPNs are paid to not get fined, and only distributors get fined, don’t blame me for not doing jackshit to contribute.
Your whining is music to my ears.
just had a silly idea: stopping your torrent right as it starts to seed (to avoid ISP letters) is like pulling out as a form of birth control
Coitus interruptus
One of the few latin expression I memorized, because that’s how the Catholic Church calls it since that’s their recommended “contraception” method, all of which I find hilarious.
That’s… not how it works. A law firm rep (usually) just has to connect to the swarm and see what IPs are there. It matters not if you share, being in the swarm is enough for them to send your ISP a notice of infringement. So as others said, use protection.
Yeah, but you still seed while you download
Meta’s legal defense was that they limited seeding to a minimal value as a precaution when they pirated terabytes of books. Of course, I don’t expect the same ruling would be granted to an individual… Shit is fucked.
So they downloaded it all to train their models and didn’t even seed back!?
Yes, beacuse that would be distribution of copyrighted materials…
Digital pre-cum.
How do I delete someone else’s comment?
Has the law in any jurisdiction determined that sharing some small fraction of bits is equivalent to sharing an entire series of bits? And how do they determine that? Like I’m sending 1s and 0s right now. Is that a violation?
Did a little digging around. It looks like they manage to get discovery judgments all the time over partial downloads, but I don’t see them actually taking anyone to court for anything less than a full file.
Once you have the entire file available, it’s hard to shimmy around the distribution claims. Wouldn’t it be super effing interesting if everyone’s torrent client specifically picked a random block and refused to give it to anyone?
I’m not sure it would hold up in court, but it would be interesting.
I mean, at that point everything is legal if we pretend to just send “random” 0s and 1s
But there must be some kind of burden of proof, right? If I leech 0.001% of a file, have I really pirated that file? If yes, then how small does the amount go? If no, then how large does it go? Or if they have to prove intent, well then that can go to trial…
The law is whatever the judge says it is. You could have undeniable proof of your innocence and still get convicted.
In the piratebay trial, just announcing the hashes was bad enough for a conviction
I mean, that’s kind of what encrypted traffic looks like to anyone without the private key
JFC people, use protection
you mean a VPN ?
yes
Maybe one day ProtonVPN will fix their port-forwarding for their configuration files, I haven’t seen anyone else complain about this and their support is oblivious that this function even exists.
For people wondering the Learn More link just tells you what port forwarding does.
Try taking a look at the way glueten implements port forwarding with protonvpn. Hopefully it helps you piece together a script that works for your setup.
https://github.com/qdm12/gluetun/discussions/2686
https://github.com/qdm12/gluetun-wiki/blob/main/setup/advanced/vpn-port-forwarding.md
Looking at the docs, it seems like that toggle enables UPnP, so the rest of the setup should be on the torrent client to announce that it needs an external port, and the VPN and torrent client should handle things from there. Maybe you can lookup the docs for your torrent client and see if there’s anything extra to use UPnP?
I mean I’ll give it a try, their support flat out said they don’t support port forwarding for WireGuard configs which is why I never used the feature, but if it’s truly using UPnP than it may be worth a shot!
As for router setups, the Port Forwarding feature is unfortunately not yet officially tested and supported, therefore, I will be unable to provide any specific steps for setting it up and creating a port mapping on your Asus router, nor guarantee that this specific scenario would work as intended. Our team will consider testing it on router setups as well in the future, however, at this moment, I am unable to provide any specific time-frames or further details. I apologize for the inconvenience that this may cause you.
Edit: https://protonvpn.com/support/port-forwarding-manual-setup#wireguard looks promising!
People should learn how to seed. If you don’t want to seed, just pay for Usenet.
It’s a shame Usenet has become fully paid. It’s what ultimately pushed me into torrents. And the fact that small communities don’t have all the content out there for you to download via Usenet.
Downloading large files from Usenet was paid pretty early on. If the core functionality of Usenet is now paid, this is news to me.
What do you consider large files? Isn’t the article size usually limited to something like 1mb (it’s been a while since I used Usenet)?
So it would technically be about the number of articles rather than the eventual size of the combined archive? At the core it’s all still text right?
Pirated media(images, movies, ebooks, ROMs) uses binary posts, not text. There are different limits and retention policies for binary versus text articles, and most Usenet servers, particularly cheap or free ones, don’t host a lot of the categories a pirate would want at all.
Please don’t imply that all Usenet providers facilitate piracy.
Thanks for the pointer! I took the opportunity to learn a bit about more recent NNTP by reading the standard: RFC 3977. It looks like nntp v2 circa 2006 added MIME encoding, so I would guess that may be how a service provider would differentiate.
I haven’t used Usenet since the turn of the century. Back then it was all text (including every article under alt.binaries), and even pirated media needed to be split into a multi-part format (often rar) then each part uuencoded so it could be included in an article.
There weren open test servers though and sites with limited trials but no data limit.
That’s what I used back in the day. Sadly all these trial offers are gone now and demand credit card information upfront.
I would seed if people ever used me. I only have so much space, and everytime I try to seed, there’s either nobody downloading, or theirs a hundred other seeders.
Have you checked if you have the port used by your torrent software forwarded?
Is that Matt & Marisha?
Is it possible to obtain stats what seed ratio you need to get to on average for a torrent not to die?
It really depends on the tracker in use. I tend to stick to private trackers, so I feel relatively safe stopping seeding at a ratio of 2-3. For public trackers, your ratio would have to be pretty dang high because most people stop seeding on those.
I meant more like where would you get these data from? I guess the most precise would be to actually seed a bunch of torrents to different ratios and then test retrievability after X months.
Yeah you would have to study it. I am sure the tracker itself has much data on this, which is why private trackers structure their rules the way they do. In my personal experience, I try to stop seeding torrents that have more than 10 seeders already and a ratio above 1 on my client and more than 60 days seed time. That keeps me from hitting the limits of my torrent client / network / storage / etc.
Sorry guys but I’m living out of a 500GB hard drive. Anything that I’m not using regularly gets purged.
I used to seed in the old days, but I feel it has become more complicated now.
The primary issue (before eg.: CGNAT or port-opening issues) is it’s become more and more often the case that I post-process what I download before use (rename / reencode music albums, reencode movies) so it makes little sense to keep the old files only for seeding. In theory a “seedbox” (those are the trendy thing this decade, right?) would help solve this, but I’m still rather new and have not found any FOSS, PII-free offerings in the market.
I kinda started a “seedbox” for at least my niche torrents. Most of the mainstream things I download I don’t normally leave to seed that long as there’s already plenty seeding, but a lot of the documentaries or other things that only have single or double digits seeding I’ll make a copy and leave it to seed for a while. I used to host my Plex server from that PC and when I build my new dedicated server I left the storage intact, but transferred my whole library over, so I have a large amount of unused space doing nothing else.
I’m also fairly new to all this. I’m now using Jellyfin for selfhosting. What’s the benefit of enencoding everything?
Exactly the situation I’m facing. Despite torrents being a popular choice, it just doesn’t provide an easy way to manage your seeds.
Of course I have found some potential solutions. Seedbox is one of them. There’s also the *arr suite, which is a more local solution that utilises hard links - but im not sure if it’ll be effective if you want to reencode.
I have an *arr suite back at home (and had one back at work, once). It’s quite local yes but I feel that to be to its advantage in this case since it’s for downloading, not uploading. No advantage if I want to reencode, since in an *arrsetup you just post-process the files as usual and remove the originals. OTOH, you can easily connect it to your Jellyfin, mpd, etc…, but by that point I just connect the folder with the post-processed stuff.
Exactly this. I don’t need 1080P or 4k mp4 rips with 10bit audio, and I definitely don’t have the storage for it, but when that’s all that is seeding, its usually quicker to just download it and re-encode.
This pretty much. I’ve never understood the point of something like
The_Avengers.[4K][8K][16][Dolby_7.18_3D][128subs].mkv… what, do people want to take note of The Hulk’s groin warts?For stuff like animation content, even 720p is too much unless it’s content from the last ~5 years. Anything before Infinity Train does pretty well on 540p or 480p with 96k audio, and if I’m looking for a movie from the 80s, let alone a black-and-white from the 50s, I’m certainly not interested in a 8K rip that would naturally have to be an AI upscale.
god i even hate pausing seeding for even an hour cause i’m like BUT WHAT IF SOMEONE WANTS IT???
you’re the hero we don’t deserve
No one wants my seed.
