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    transgender and antifascist ideology

    transgender … ideology

    [Squidward voice, but angrier] NO, PATRICK, TRANSGENDER IS NOT AN IDEOLOGY… PREGNANT IS NOT AN IDEOLOGY EITHER.

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    “transgender ideology” is not a thing. That’s the type of shit transphobes pull out of their ass when they’re trying to attack trans folks

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      I think transgender ideology is “we’re human”.

      It’s fucking wild that the Right can be opposed to human rights and anti-fascism and millions of people are somehow still gaslit in believing they’re the good guys.

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        It’s this exact point for me. “Antifascist” is being taken at face value and simultaneously being tarred as antisocial rhetoric. What the actual fuck has gone on? If the belief that “antifascist” is a cover or a dogwhistle, then shouldn’t you attempt to separate their political orientation away from those words? “They aren’t antifascist. They are political dissidents claiming all of their political enemies are ‘fascists’.”

        Instead, we have: “No, they ARE antifascists and they are our enemies!” Why did we let them stigmatize the word “antifascist”?

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    This false flag operation is insanely piss poor. It’s like they were all sat in a room and told one of them was going to be scarified to initiate a civil war and here is your rhetoric start immediately saying the exact same thing.

    And who has the most to gain? Couch fucker picking off his presidential rivals…

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    I hope a trans person did shoot him and I hope they get away with it. Kirk made his living by terrorizing and dehumanizing queer folks and I’m happy he finally got to the FO stage. Hopefully seeing daddy get blown away will ensure his kid doesn’t grow up to be as bigoted and the lesson is learned.

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        Yeah last thing the trans community needs is a tangible reason for the admin to target them.

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      Oh Gods I hope this isn’t the case. The right would start foaming at the mouth and could start rounding us up as threats.

      It’s also… a little ghoulish to speak about a kid losing their parent that way. Whatever you think of the man his kid’s grief isn’t exactly something to celebrate. I get not mourning the man but celebrating his death isn’t going to help us trans folks in the end. I have a feeling that this is going to get a whole lot worse for all of us as a people very quickly and as a whole we’re already a group hanging on by our fingertips.

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    Breaking News: the entire text of The Handmaid’s Tale by Margaret Atwood was found to be engraved on bullet casings left at the scene, according to a source. So we should ban that book from all schools, fr fr.

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    Wait when did they find the weapon?? Last I heard they didn’t have the weapon and the 2 people they arrested were the wrong guy. So it sounds like the shooter didn’t leave the gun behind, so I would expect them to only get the weapon if they got the shooter unless I missed something between yesterday and today.

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      Recent reports indicate a bolt action rifle was found wrapped in a towel in the woods, one empty casing in the chamber, three more live rounds in the mag.

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          Yup. I live relatively close to this area, and there are plenty of trees. Why? Because it’s a university in a relatively densely populated part of the city (i.e. apartments for students).

          I imagine “woods” is a bit generous here though, it’s more likely a copse of trees. There aren’t any real forests in the valley, but there are areas with a bunch of trees that someone in the desert would refer to as a forest. The real forests are in the canyons and on the east side of the mountains (i.e. Uintah Nat’l Forest, Cache Nat’l Forest, etc).

          Utah being a “desert” is a bit of a misnomer. It’s not like the Arabian Peninsula or the Senora Desert, it just doesn’t get a ton of rain, and we get most of our water in the winter. But there are still underground water systems and of course municipal irrigation.

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              A lot of the famous national parks are mostly rock (Zion, Arches, etc), but we also have a few national forests and the ski areas are all pretty wooded.

              UVU campus is built into a hill, and many of the hills have a fair amount of trees, especially near the lake where the water table is higher (and UVU is only a mile or so away).

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    In related news, doctors were amazed they kept pulling books and scrolls from the body, placed there by the bullets.

    “It’s amazing” said the orange as quoted by the wsj, “apparently books like this can kill. I’m sure he could have survived the wound without the additional poisoning.”

    In response to this, reaction forces were posed to raid the libraries of all elementary schools within the washington dc area

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    Yeah what the fuck. Just like Luigi’s alleged engravings. It doesnt make any sense beyond an emotional response. Why take the time to engrave something no one will see? Its going faster than the speed of sound.

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        Then to the same degree, why engrave the evidence fo make it easier to track? It still doesnt make sense.

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          Even more so, why mess with the aerodynamics in unpredictable ways? “I’ve trained for months to land a shot within a 1 square foot area from nearly a thousand feet away. Now to fuck with the bullet which is slightly off balance and might slide an inch off target, missing entirely.” What?

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            The cartridge casing exists to form a seal against the breach end of the barrel. It doesn’t go anywhere. It just expands slightly from the high pressure gases inside, preventing those gases from escaping out the back, propelling the bullet forward with as much pressure as possible.

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          So this line of reasoning is a trap. People do dumb ass shit all the time for emotional reasons, including criminals. In fact, people doing dumb ass shit is so reliable that police investigative procedures are almost designed around it.

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            Except our shooter here was clearly trained. Possibly a veteran. Or maybe it really was a false flag. They would know what engravings would do on the casings that get left behind.

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              A lot of people insisting the guy has to be a professional… He absolutely does not, he just has to be very practiced with a rifle. There are probably over a hundred thousand civilians in the US who can hit a target with a Mauser at 200 yards on the first try, it’s literally a feature of some casual gun competitions.

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              “Clearly trained”. No, not really. Making a headshot at 200 yards with the benefit of a benchrest/tripod/sandbag is not difficult. I’ve hit that distance before with a 357 magnum revolver from benchrest (though the owner had that thing very well dialed in).

              I’m seeing plenty of people who obviously know nothing about guns say it’s a hard shot. It’s not.

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          I’m not saying this is the case, but it is very possible that if this person purchased the rifle legally, they believe that the purchase will be traceable back to them and that they will almost certainly be caught. So they could have acted with the mindset that they would be throwing away their own life.

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          There is no tracking danger from engravings, other than establishing a message, and then seeing if future suspect might agree with the message.

          In this case, it’s more likely that a fascist loving employee of fascism may want to project more ammunition for fascism.

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        The casing that the shooter took with them?

        Why leave rifle full of them & not leave the one you fired?

        This was a CIA or Mossad hit & the shooter isn’t even in the USA at this point.

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          The rifle is bolt action. The spent casing was still chambered.

          I do find it interesting that DOJ lawyers have been seeking the death penalty for Mangione, and linchpin of their case is that he inspired other shooters – something that until recently was openly laughable.
          Adding that the story of the supposed writing on the bullets is based on a memo that circulated at the FBI and it’s unknown if that memo was based on accurate information or just the figment of someone’s imagination to create a narrative that people will now just accept as fact.

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            It’s been debunked. It was a lying cop speaking to reporters that should have known better.

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      Early Bulletin Said Ammunition in Kirk Shooting Engraved With Transgender, Antifascist Ideology; Some Sources Urge Caution

      https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/charlie-kirk-shot/card/pdymd1sXXMSlVRhpvR4b

      It sounds like a bulletin was indeed circulated, and it sounds like the WSJ is being pretty candid about the law enforcement response:

      Law-Enforcement Officials Sow Confusion on Manhunt for Kirk Shooter / Contradictory public statements risk undermining confidence in investigation, law enforcement veterans say

      https://www.wsj.com/us-news/charlie-kirk-shooting-manhunt-e7f3eae4

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        So basically the federal agencies cannot be trusted here and have clearly shown their political partisanship and they got what they wanted in circulating their official false narrative to provoke political violence on the right against the lbgtq community and whatever the fuck they call the left.

        Because that’s literally what they did, every right wing advocate for political violence has been clamoring about this non fucking stop and the government here has no shame about it.

        2A up people, it’s going to get bad.

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    Also fishy that Trump announced his death and made an AI video of himself. How long does it take to create an AI video like that?

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      It’s just interpolation, so probably all of 5 minutes. There’s enough misinformation going around, let’s not keep spreading the AI video nonsense.

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          It’s an AI interpolation filter over a lower fps video. Yes, it contains AI generated frames. No, that doesn’t make it a fabricated video.

          Why would it be? Why would it matter? Claiming it as some kind of evidence of foul play is just loony.

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          It likely isn’t but it’s deeply frightening that there is so much debate about it.

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    It was an inside job by a professional. There were two guys doing umpire signals to his immediate right. King pedo Karen just wants an excuse to declare martial law

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    Well, we got images of the primary suspect today, so I’m guessing we’ll get more pics soon.

    Here’s what I think we know so far:

    I’m guessing the perp isn’t a student there, otherwise they would’ve been able to get a name from school records.

    I guess we’ll see how close I am, but in the meantime, I hope these sources are of interest to others.

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      Guesswork on the caliber based on ‘sound’ is entirely unuseful- silencers exist and acoustics are mysterious at the best times. Edit: since they apparently found the rifle, the chambering should be listed- guesswork is now totally obsolete.

      And concerning engraving bullets: that would supremely fuck with the ballistics. You could engrave the case if you felt so inclined, I guess…

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        Nobody carves bullets, but most people would consider the casing part of the bullet. Journalists are often imprecise, especially with things they’re not familiar with.