• AlolanYoda@mander.xyz
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    2 months ago

    I have a quick question as someone not from the US. What is the general opinion that people have of Kamala Harris? Do people voting Democrat have an overall positive impression of her? Or are there people who could be disappointed with the choice?

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      I’m in Trump country so I am relaying their opinions not my own. “Whore who slept her way to the top”, “lier that is letting the border crisis happen”, " hypocritic that ruined young peoples lives over pot even though she smoked it too".

      Otherwise nothing burger, and besides the border debate all of the personal attacks are honestly minor compared to how Trump supporter view Trump out here (you know “he’s not a good man but …”).

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        I wouldn’t mind voting for a whore who slept her way to the top. Takes a lot of talent to do that, plus a winning strategy that paid off over decades. Much more interesting than the tale of an 80 year old who had rich parents. Unfortunately it’s probably just misogyny.

        In all seriousness though most jobs that are worth anything are given by networking through personal connections. I would consider that a form of networking to get a foot in the door even if it was true. Then what followed was decades of experience working.

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      2 months ago

      I’d say largely neutral. Progressives don’t love her because she was a prosecutor. She has a bit of a reputation for opportunism and lacks charisma but pretty standard democrat overall.

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      Politically? The general public sees Kamala Harris as a nothingburger. She’s practically a blank slate despite spending the last four years as VP. Nobody’s going to be disappointed because the average person only knows her as a background character.

      It’s the best option the Dems have got, but we’ll see how much they want to win when they announce the VP candidate nomination.

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      2 months ago

      I have heard literally 0 news about her for this entire presidency. She’s probably fine. Definitely better than Trump, so, ya know. Voting time

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        2 months ago

        I always thought this was a negative - she squandered the opportunity to stand out - but yoypire probably right

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      She’s generally average from what I’ve heard amongst my friends. Not a slam dunk but not stumbling over herself. I think she’ll really have to prove herself and release a strong platform to sway any voters. The good news is that a decent number of people are going to vote for her just because she’s not Trump.

      I suspect the real problem for some Americans will be a woman as president…which is just about how screwed America is right now.

      Pretty notably she doesn’t have any big skeletons in her closet (that I know of at least) that Republicans can latch on to and create drama over.

      • Scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech
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        2 months ago

        but - from what I’ve heard while there is a vocal minority of women who are happy about roe being overturned, the vast vast majority of women are not happy about it. For a lot of women born after Roe, for example, it was a given that they had the right to get an abortion, and people took it away from them. I was worried about a woman being nominated - but honestly it might be the perfect time to nominate a woman.

        On one side you have a bunch of old white men literally taking away women’s rights. On the other side you have an actual strong woman who wants to codify those rights into law.

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          Every election with abortion rights on the ballot has gone to democrats since the roe repeal if I’m not mistaken

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            I actually did not know that. I think them finishing off Roe was one of the worst things from a strategy standpoint the GOP could have done. They could have done nothing and had people voting for them for that for years. By doing something all they did was lose one of their best campaign talking points and piss off a lot of people who wanted Roe. I hope it continues to backfire on them.

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      Left left looks at her time as Attornry General of California and sees her as corrupt and responsible for high incarceration rates among other general issues with the overall Democratic party platform.

      libLeft sees her as solid dem if not their new prophet, though not like the right worships trump.

      Center will probably see her similar to a batman police commisioner. Generally assumed good and unencumbered politically.

      Right will only see gender and skin color, and not in a good way.

      Vanilla to anyone not fitting neatly in those categories.

      Her not being seen for the last few years is good for dems as there’s nothing for the Republicans to latch onto beyond racism and mysogyny. They don’t have the long developed hatred that they have for Hillary.

      Realistically it’s the least divisive choice the dems could make.

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      From the US and I pay a lot of attention to politics.

      Her past is she was a bulldog in the courtroom, absolutely a firebrand and ready to take on anyone. By making her VP, her job was mostly to not make the administration look bad, which is a tough job for a firebrand so for years it felt like she was put in the back and kept quiet.

      Roe v Wade decision happened, making the abortion argument on the side of the Republicans getting what they wanted, Biden is a Catholic and male so completely uncomfortable using the fact that abortion is the winning ticket item for the Dems so Harris has been beating that drum hard and getting out. GRANTED the media has been focusing on “Biden too old!” (Legit had to learn a Biden policy from BBC because American news isn’t going to talk about that) so she’s still feeling a relative unknown to the country at large.

      There are people calling for wanting the DNC to do a vote, but we’re past that marker, there’s people disappointed, and then there’s a lot of people excited. Right now this election is going to shape up to be more “interesting” than Bush v Gore or Trump v Hillary.

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      can’t any citizen be president? I don’t remember George Washington running for president

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    Literally the end now for the USA. Handing the white house to Trump and Vance. This couldn’t be worse. You’re going to see all kinds of violence in the country. Kids shooting kids at school, cops shooting first asking questions never, women’s rights to reproductive health taken away. Shits going to get real scary now.

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      Kids shooting kids at school, cops shooting first asking questions never, women’s rights to reproductive health taken away.

      So exactly what we have now. Nothing you listed would be new, all of those are already here.

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        Same reaction here…

        Like bro we are already getting squeezed on all fronts… Rent health care education all fucked

        No social policy to speak of. Homeless…

        Like we know it will get worse too lol the regime choice: is who do you want to fuck you this round, boy?

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        He’s from the UK. Like me in Canada, we get to live in relative bliss in not needing to worry about living in the current US reality…

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    2 months ago

    No one will be able to tell you. But it SHOULD change nothing regarding to what to vote for. You either vote against Trump / fascism / climate collapse, or you support those things either by vote or inaction.

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      Yes, yes. Thank you.

      We know the “Vote Blue No Matter Who” crowd was always going to vote for the blue candidate. That’s a given, and beating the dead horse is just preaching to the choir.

      What’s important is that now the Dems have a chance, and the DNC has a precious few days with which to change the future.

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        It’s not about voting blue no matter who, it’s about preventing Trump. If you think that’s beating the dead horse then you clearly still not understand the threat, the things that are at stake here, the implication his presidency has for the future of all of us.

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          If you think that’s beating the dead horse then you clearly still not understand the threat,

          And you clearly don’t understand how long I’ve had to put up with people like you shouting down any criticism of the Democrat party, no matter how reasonable or well-intentioned, as if deliberately suppressing talk about the weakness of their former presumed nominee improved his chances.

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    I’m pretty sure that him giving up is the best chance he has at success.

    Ironic right?

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        The question is “What effects will his decision have?” and not “What changes will the nominee have?”.

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          Yeah, but the question was answered as if it was “what effect will this have on Biden’s chances of being elected”. Saying “Biden didn’t have a chance anyway so nothing” is an irrelevant statement. The issue is whether it affects the Democrat’s chances of having a winning candidate.

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        A lot of states have laws that don’t conform to the national primary process. For instance, Ohio has a law on the books that says the official nomination has to occur by a certain date which is before the second major party convention.

        It is important to know that elections are technically run at the state level with some federal oversight.

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            It was considered. They were going to nominate Biden early to be ahead of this date. I don’t think that’s happening anymore.

            It’s also important to know that (IIRC) currently things have been put in place in Ohio for this not to be an issue, but that could change if enough Ohio politicians want it to.

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    Seems good, man. Basically that makes the election:

    Decision 2024: Cop vs Felon

    Who will America choose?

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      Yeah I don’t think DNC leadership appreciates the current public sentiment against law enforcement in the country. Based on her career, her would be base are the moutb breezers simping for trump

      For any self respecting liberal, you just have to ignore her job. There is no good way to spin it besides, she knows how to run a shop of prosecutors lol never, just don’t fucking mention it.

      Bizarro fucking time line tho jfc

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        I know we sometimes feel like the majority here on the fediverse, but we have to remember that most democrats don’t feel the same way about cops that the “far” left does. Most democrats are just capitalist liberals that enjoy the status quo and maybe some slightly progressive policies.

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          Ehh good point… Although I think it is also generational. Boomer Democrats still pretend like they didn’t know what redlining was while living in redlined communities lol

          So yeah that guy will vote

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    I think he will don pipe and slippers and spend his remaining time with his family. It’s the right thing to do.

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    Nobody really knows. The situation is somewhat unprecedented.

    If you’re asking for personal opinions: this was absolutely a catch-22. But I do think that it’s probably a good move in the pragmatic context of “find a way to beat the fascists”. I also think it’s hilighting some glaring flaws in our primary system that I hope will be fixed, but I don’t honestly expect to be.

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    I’m a LAW AND ORDER REPUBLICAN and I’m going to vote for the CONVICTED FELON over the COP!

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    It was the right move.

    Now the DNC just has to nominate someone who can put up a strong front.

    They might fuck that up.

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      Biden already endorsed Kamala Harris. That’s who’s going to be on the ticket. That’s who was always going to be on the ticket if it wasn’t Biden. Expecting anything else was delusional.

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        Exactly. If they found a solid competitor, I would bet anything it would be a white guy, and a lot of people, especially women and people of color are going to notice how the LITERAL CURRENT NEXT IN LINE FOR THE POSITION, wasn’t considered for the job.