IMHO it’s definetly a hard break with the past design.
But it looks more mature and not as ‘shy’.
i do love it though i miss so much the feel of lollypop/jellybean era firefox android pre app refresh
Looks more touch focused and friendly. Not necessarily bad on a mobile device. This might be rare occasion I don’t mind a rsadical change done by Mozilla. Haven’t actually tried it yet, just looking at the photo…
Don’t mind it, just taking a little bit getting used to because it’s such a big change. My muscle memory for certain things need to be tweaked. But it looks slick, and as far as I can tell the same functionality is there.
Not going to lie, I do not like it.
I prefer menus over panels.
how did you get this?
i have my android set to automatic update and i see no upgrades advertised when i check.
It’s currently on the Nightly version
i don’t mind it, i think it looks good - BUT i just want a tablet ui with a tab bar T_T
It’s already not only in Nightly, but Beta too, so probably soon in release.
Nightly has this so I assume it will come to Firefox sooner or later.
hm, interesting; i assume fennec is based on release android firefox? i wish nightly had an f-droid release :/ i know i can download the apk but
If the part you dislike is having to manually download updates, then this might be a solution: https://f-droid.org/packages/de.marmaro.krt.ffupdater
ooh awesome i’ll look. yeah i didn’t mind doing the apks for beta or focus but nightly is updated (well duh :P) every night so i just didn’t want to keep remembering.
FFUpdater can keep it updated for you. Sort of a browser-specific app store.
i just tried and it works great; i had accrescent for ironfox but i like this because i can also get rid of the play store for vivaldi.
For whatever it’s worth, you can enable a movable tab bar in Firefox Nightly for Android.
This will force the tab and omnibar to the top of the screen, however.
Don’t forget this too
Neat! seems I need to update!
There’s also some new secret settings for the new toolbar.
Ah! That may be why I don’t see it 😓
Woah I was literally just commenting that I miss that expanded toolbar layout. Unfortunately that option isn’t visible yet in my Nightly, but this indicates that it might not be gone forever, awesome!
Edit: Just enabled Secret Settings and now I have back my beloved toolbar! It’s a bit chunkier than it used to be, but still neat.
Edit 2: ah, and no back/forward buttons, that’s a shame. I’d prefer those over the bookmark button.
Yep, bookmark feels like something no one needs with any regularity.
In the Secret Settings it was named something like “Composable toolbar”, so perhaps we’ll get the ability to customise the contents later.
It’s just because it’s the toolbar rewritten in Jetpack Compose rather than the old one which was written with XML and used a custom parser.
Ah! That makes sense
I want to import/export bookmarks to HTML and view page source/inspect element in addition to that
You can add
view-source:before the URI to view the source.Oh, that’s nice. Thanks!
I like it. It’s better en easier to use than the old one.
Note that I’m using it for multiple months at this point.
Looks good, I always found the current menu pretty busy. Wish it didn’t move the action buttons to the top and switch Refresh and Share though.
It moved the back/forward arrows to the top of the screen where I can barely reach. Why ?
yeah back/forward refresh & share should be at the bottom of this menu
I like it, it looks more modern, I haven’t given a proper though about the layout, but honestly seeing UI changes is good, I have been using FF as my main since a while now and I don’t think it hasn’t changed a bit, for example I’d like that it adopted material you UI (yes I like it), but what I would like the most is that it begins to support tab grouping just like the desktop browser… But hey, baby steps.
I hate it. It used to be two taps to open a new tab.
Now it’s four taps:
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Open the menu
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Close the menu
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Open tabs
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My muscle memory ain’t going nowhere.
I miss the toolbar that was experimented with for a while in Nightly that had both the new tab button and the forward button visible at all times. But apparently other people hated it.
I still have that, but with the tab bar.
Edit:
Ah neat, is that on a tablet? Maybe it’s decided that my phone screen is too small.
Phone acting as tablet. Settings “smallest width” to 600dp or more triggers tablet mode on Android, which changes certain UI elements to, in my opinion, make more sense on average near 7" smartphones. At least for me as I am a landscape-first user.
So, since I already screwed up my homescreen layout by toggling this now, I’ll give you screenshots to compare between 423 (smallest in regular settings) and 705dp (what I use). 423 on left, 705 on right.
Took me longer than I anticipated, but anyway:
Sorry for the JPEG, original was 18MB.
Notice the difference in keyboard layout, and 3 button navigation with app icons and app drawer.
You should be able to click the image to open it, at least on LemmyUI.
I appreciate the effort! (Indeed looks like that wasn’t quick to put together.) And yes, that looks like you get a bunch more controls on your wider phone.
In defense of Mozilla on this one, the new tab button has been in tabs for years now, and it kinda makes sense to be there.
If they’re trying to streamline menus, getting rid of a redundant button is a good start.
you can still open a tab with two taps
I completely forgot there was a new tab entry in that menu
You can long press the tab icon to open a new tab. Still 2 taps.
IMO 2 taps is already one too many
Or tap the tab icon and then the plus icon in the bottom right.
Although I did mainly use the menu method. Will just have to change now.
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@mustbe3to20signs Interesting. I’ll have to play with it a bit before I decide, but I’m not 100% in love with it right now.
I like it when buttons can be reached entirely by my thumb without overstretching it. Feel like anything that isn’t that is a design failure.
Assuming that’s the menu that is accessed from the tab bar, my first thought is that it doesn’t have everything the current one has. Where are “find in page” and “desktop site”?
That’s right. These are missing because I opened it from the new tab. Here is a better screenshot:
I don’t hate it, but I would REALLY like to be able to move those buttons around. Refresh, share, and forward are hands-down my most used buttons. Having to chase them up feels tedious.
Similarly sign in (or, I’m guessing account once you do sign in) does not need that much real estate.
Finally I’d love to swap Passwords with a shortcut to my password manager of choice (in my case, Bitwarden)
I appreciate the more modern take, but I think it could use some refinement or customization options, similar to dragging things around your toolbar in FF desktop.
I think I like the current one better from a usability perspective because it opens where I can access the whole thing with my thumb without having to stretch. Looks like that might not be the case here but we’ll see I suppose
I hate it and changed it back almost immediately. The way I use Firefox, I always select “quit” to close it, which deletes all temporary files and cookies and this is just not doable with the new menu, which wastes precious screen space.
Why doesn’t the big “quit” button work in the new case? Doesn’t delete cookies, etc?
No, it does work, but I always have to scroll down to reach it, because the new menu does not show all the buttons at once, when opened. This is really annoying.
That sounds like a bug. It should display like in the picture and you shouldn’t need to scroll.
I’m using Waterfox, maybe that’s the problem… But when I open the menu, it’s only half open and I have to scroll down every time. Will try with Firefox too and see if it happens there too.
Okay, I see what you mean… Firefox has a smaller menu, fitting neatly on one page, whereas Waterfox has a longer menu which needs scrolling. Sorry for the confusion and thanks for pointing this out.
All good
