I don’t really dream. It’s extremely rare to the point where I’ll have a handful in a year and I don’t remember them. Waking up with an emotional reaction to an odd dream inspired by life events or entertainment… Then the details slip away from me and I can’t even talk to anyone about the experience.
What’s it like for you?
Do you enjoy, dislike or analyze your dreams?
Is it really a window to the subconscious for you?
Is like a movie that is injected into your brain, but randomly generated by AI (aka: it make zero sense and random as fuck).
Then just as things get interesting, someone wake you up and flash the Men In Black memory eraser thing and you’re like: “What the fuck was that? I think I had a dream, but I forgor”
It’s fun until someone cuts your arm with a sword during medieval battle, you wake up but you can’t move and can’t feel your arm so you lay on the battlefield for a while.
Have you tried learning to be better at sword fighting?
Somewhat weird and cringe but entertaining. I usually keep my phone next to bed, if I have some dream I’d like to remember I turn on audio recording and speak whatever comes to mind. Hopefully I get to remember that in the future.
Maybe you can write your dreams down as soon as you wake up and remember them. Perhaps it will help
Yeah I’ve seen notes about sleep journals
Dreaming is like reality, but far from reality. Regardless, you accept it anyway. It looks so close to reality, yet many nonsensical things can happen. I recently had one which featured astral projection and trippy visuals. The stretching of hallways, the breaking of physics.
Foreign realms which often feel quite familiar.
Also–do your own research, but… this might interest you.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artemisia_vulgaris
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oneirogen
Mugwort is known as an oneirogen. These are a class of substances known to produce vivid dreams.They are not psychoactive to any degree. I use them very, very infrequently, but they do work for me. As far as I understand, it’s diminishing returns for repeated use. If you use them daily, they stop working. Mugwort has worked for everyone I know who’s tried it, and I’d imagine it’s hard for placebo to occur here. Note that this is far from a scientifically defined class of substance–most descriptions of their effects are anecdotal. That said, they are extremely unlikely to be harmful, if that’s even at all possible.
If this is an active point of interest for you, it certainly can’t hurt to read into it. Hope this all helps!
Wow that’s. I’m down to try a herbal tea!
I haven’t tried tea, but smoking works if that doesn’t. I’d assume you want to drink the tea about an hour before bed to ensure effects take hold at the right time. You won’t notice any effect while awake. It should have mild sleep support properties, though. Also interesting is that it’s reported to work by being placed under the pillow.
Thujone is an involved compound that’s worth mentioning. In very large amounts (and I mean a catastrophic 3g+ of pure compound for myself), it becomes toxic–but typical doses are very, very far below this. Imagine how much 3g of the compound is, and how much compound is actually contained in the material.
Hope this all helps!
I used to have vivid awesome dreams when I was a kid and some scary ones as well, as an adult I am in the same boat as OP, handful of dreams a year that I even register and I forget almost everything once I wake up. And the worst part is most of my dreams seem related to my daily worries, like even in my dreams I can’t escape my anxiety. I remember an amazing dream I had as a kid where I could fly, it felt so real, it was like entering into a futuristic simulation.
It’s like having thoughts, but weirder.
I have incredibly wild and vivid dreams, a handful of times a year.
My most recent one is one that has repeated a handful of times. I am in Portland for some reason and there is a restaurant with a large gravel lot.
I park and I walk up to the restaurant to order a hot dog and Colin Melloy from the Decemberists shows up. His hair is about shoulder length, he’s wearing cut off blue jean shorts and a plaid shirt. And he puts on an open air concert out in the gravel lot for free for everyone who just happens to be stopping by this particular hot dog stand.
He played songs from the Crane Wife album, which was pretty cool.
I’ve had other dreams where I’ve led choirs of priests and nuns on a musical rampage throughout New York City, singing a song I’ve never heard before and have not heard since as like this massive musical number.
I’ve had dreams where I Fight evil villains on spaceships with laser swords only to find out that the villain was my cousin.
I’ve had dreams where it’s the 80s and I am a white guy that wears white suits and sunglasses and I’m rich and I drive a red sports car that’s a convertible and I have a lot of money and that dream. I told myself, oh yeah, I’ve got to make that big purchase in the morning. I better put $50,000 under my bed so it’ll be there when I wake up. And then I woke up in the real world and immediately looked under my bed to realize that it was a dream and I’ve never been more upset to wake up in my life.
I’ve had dreams where I’m in a dark room being assaulted by demons, being told all the horrible things that there are about me, and I’m trapped to a chair, and like I’m praying to get out of this situation, and the demon laughs at me, and he flicks his finger, and while I’m stuck to the chair, it lifts up onto one leg and starts spinning around and around faster and faster and faster, trying to get my hands to unclass from prayer as the demon laughs in the darkness.
And I’ve had a recurring dream throughout most of my life, well two recurring dreams throughout most of my life, one of which is where I’m standing in an infinitely large black room on a small little pedestal, and there is a glowing, blue, thin strand of string that serves as a tightrope between here and the end of infinity, and i become aware that I am supposed to walk this tightrope.
Somewhere out beyond the darkness are a tribunal of judges who are watching me and watching my performance, as I take one step onto the string, and then I take the second step, and I realize I have to balance, and I immediately fall, and as I’m falling and I’m plummeting through infinite darkness, I hit the ground, and in real life I wake up, and my entire body convulses and bounces on the bed.
The other one that I have is there is a town, and the town has rolling green fields and sunflowers and wooden fences and white houses and paved roads intersecting through it that wind back and forth and I am driving in an old beat up blue Ford truck with the wooden slats on the truck bed. And, as I drive through the town people stop and wave at me and I wave at them because I am making a delivery and they know me and I know them and I get to drive back and forth in this beautiful, serene, peaceful, perfect town full of happiness.
Wow that’s extremely specific
I have a personal hypothesis, born out of studies I read a long time ago and haven’t kept up with nor really bothered to research more (so take it with a grain of salt), that dreams are two things happening at once:
•Your brain organizing your memories of everything that happened that day, including every thought you had even if it doesn’t have a physical event attached to it.
•Your imagination adding as much of a cohesive story as it can to those often times unrelated memories.
I always picture it like still images that change rapidly one after the other, sort of like flipbooks, and then your “conscious” mind trying to keep up with it, finding no logic, and creating a storyline instead.
I’ve found myself lucid dreaming before, and despite being in control and knowing it’s a dream, I’m still asleep, so I end up making dumb choices or playing along with my dream.
The dreams I remember tend to be strangest/goofiest ones or the ones that had some emotional impact on me. However, when I analyze them while awake, I realize that there was a lot of extra “content” that I didn’t add or doesn’t fit into the dream. Like how somehow the place and the people I’m with change every “scene”.
Sometimes I wake up with a phrase resonating inside my head, with that feeling you get in your mouth when tou want to say something. And since I’m bilingual, I’ve had dreams with both languages happening at once. Hell, I’ve even had dreams where I’m speaking Japanese “fluently” (i.e. it feels fluent in the dream but I know it must be gibberish, since I don’t speak the language).
Sometimes they help me face subconscious anxieties, sometimes they give me solutions to problems I’m having IRL, but more often than not, it’s like I’m watching the randomest movie ever. And I do think they’re a “window or the subconscious” but not in the sense I think you’re asking. Since they’re memories and imagination, it is your subconscious that is choosing to focus on specific aspects or the storyline you create. So, analyzing them can help to see what’s going inside that blob of fat we call brain.
Tl;dr: they feel like when you’re fantasizing/daydreaming but a lot less cohesive, and can be helpful every now and then.
I don’t know how dreams happen to people with aphantasia, and I know my explanation would be wildly different for them, but that’s how I see dreams.
Check out the Twin Peaks series. For me that’s the closest I’ve ever seen on screen
What do you mean?
Closest depiction AND sound design to what I dream when I’m dreaming.
You dream every night, everyone does. You just don’t remember the dreams on waking.
IDK about windows to the subconscious but if I have an interesting or recurring dream, sometimes I try to interpret it, and have gotten some things out of doing that.
Maybe there is some gadget that can detect when you are dreaming. You wouldn’t want to have it wake you automatically on a regular basis (disrupting sleep isn’t always avoidable, but it isn’t good). But you could try it once or twice and see if you remember the dream then.
Dreaming is also called REM (rapid eye movement) sleep, because people’s eyeballs jerk around during that sleep phase. Usually the jerking is pretty random. Once during a sleep study, a guy’s REM suddenly changed to very rhythmic, repeated side to side movements. That was weird enough that the researcher woke him and asked him what he had been dreaming about. The answer: playing ping pong. The eye movements had tracked the ball going back and forth.
Not just everyone, every mamal dreams during every sleep!
I wonder what cats dream about…
I’m sure a sleep lab might have some equipment to track your eyes for REM.
When I nap my Fitbit shows “deep sleep” for my heart rate vs light sleep and a little rem
Mine tells me I’m asleep when I’m wide awake reading or watching movies. I wouldn’t trust it too much.
I had a dream not too long ago (week maybe) where I didn’t dream about an event or a past, but I dreamt about a project I was working on and I invented something for myself that I can actually build right now if I wanted, but it is meant for me a decade or two in the future.
I’m a wood carver and I’m currently carving a gift for my brother in law. The dream was me fixing a lot of the things I had issue with in the project, and a future idea about my parents that I’ll be writing down and brainstorming until the times comes that I’ll probably want to build it.
That’s awesome. This is the kind of thing I feel like I’m missing out on.
Don’t get too excited, this is an extremely rare occurrence for me as it’s only happened once before. But 12 years ago when I worked in a call center doing tech support in the US. It was near constant nightmares about getting calls in the call center, and the beep in the headset. I didn’t get good sleep or enough sleep between shifts. You win some you lose some.
My career is starting to stabilize and stress is going down.
From tech support to server work. Job hopped until I got a good work life balance now.
I became a stay at home dad a few years ago, so while I have given up some work stress, I received a different kind of stress.
I used to be like that, unable to dream/remember dreams. Turns out that was because I had nightmares and terrors and stress dreams and my brain simply didn’t want to remember them.
I took a shaman drug (that I won’t mention, because I absolutely do not recommend it for anyone ever, and regret taking it myself) over the course of many months, and it absolutely gave me the permanent ability to dream and recall, and even consistently lucid dream (I don’t recall dreams every day, but at least once a week now). I now have a whole town that acts as a hub to get to all the places I’ve dreamed about more than once. It’s kinda fun.
However, these dreams are massively emotionally taxing. I often encounter my mother (the point of the shaman drug is to interact with dead ancestors), so I’ve relegated her to a middle floor of “my house” so she’s easier to avoid… those experiences are… just so overwhelmingly taxing. They do help with some closure stuff even tho I know it’s just my brain making up both sides of things, but it’s draining all the same.
I live a extremely clean life. Zero drugs. Makes me want to try a induced hallucination…
I’ve taken every exotic research chemical and psychedelic you can think of. I can confirm hallucinations work the same with aphantasia.
Although I didn’t ‘trip’, which is the delusional state people get into when they take pills/mdma and stay up for a few days. Start talking to plastic bags, on the phone with their hand, etc. might just be me though.
I wonder what legal options there are. Can’t lose my job if I get tested.
Most psychs don’t show up on a panel just find out what the panel tests for.
I wouldn’t know where to get anything safely. Going to look into what’s available legally.
Salvia if you’re brave. World might fold in on you briefly and it’s legal because nobody has fun on it lol. But it is strong as shit and will certain fuck up your perception for a few minutes.
Most of the other legal things are pretty naff and will probably just make you feel a bit sick and fuzzy around the edges (morning glory seeds).
Depending on how strict the laws are in your area there might be some loopholes for exotic psychs but probably not the best entry. Probably best just going looking for some mushrooms, they won’t show on a standard panel.
This is a pretty specific usage of the word trip. Most of the time when people say it, they mean they had an above-threshold psychoactive experience (usually in the context of psychedelics). Don’t get me wrong, depending on what and how much you take you can certainly trip and find yourself doing that stuff. But many people use ‘trip’ or ‘tripping’ to describe experiences that don’t reach that point.
You sound experienced, so I’m curious how you landed on this definition of trip/tripping and what you called your experiences instead (if you use a casual term at all).
Using it like that sounds more American.
Uk loves to binge. Take a couple dozen pills each over a long weekend and people will start talking absolute nonsense. Lots of weed and coke mixed in too but seemed to be mostly the mdma and sleep deprivation that triggered it.
Small stuff like them continuing a conversation with you that you weren’t having, and then acting like a dementia patient when you correct them. To walking in on someone having a full blown conversation with a laundry detergent bottle.
No set name for the usual level of hallucinations that weren’t delirium. Usually just say something like out my tits/box, full of it, completely fucking spangled, etc.
Ahh, ok. Didn’t have the UK context, and yeah, admittedly my usage comes from a North American context.
Appreciate the answer!
Good call.
Hallucinations are fun, if they are purely visual and you know they are coming…
I have olfactory hallucinations as well as occasional auditory (related to migraines and headaches, not drug use) and those are just very mundane. Lol
I have aphantasia so don’t really have full fledged scenic dreams with a narrative like some people have.
It’s more like I see my daughter crawling and falling into the plug socket so I need to go in after her, and then I’m suddenly in a field full of wasps.
I don’t ‘see’ much, it’s more like flashes of images and emotions; and I’ll often open my eyes and talk or shout but still be asleep mentally.
Thanks to this post I just learned I also have aphantasia!
Welcome to the club. In that case you might have SDAM too (hope not!)
https://sdamstudy.weebly.com/what-is-sdam.html
On the plus side we get a boost to abstract thinking, spatial reasoning and speed reading (if you also don’t have an involuntary monologue when reading).
Wow. I do have really good spacial reasoning and reading speed.
I chalked that up to being the only boy with a lot of sisters and doing so much packing/moving. Also reading as a hobby.
We seem to use spatial reasoning to compensate for episodic memory.
If I try and remember something, it’s usually my position in the room I remember first. And instead of remembering a picture of an elephant we store the dimensions.
And the reading is because you don’t have to say it aloud in your head, most people only read as fast as they can talk.
Everyone dreams, FYI. It’s an integral part of sleeping. You just don’t remember it.
It’s like being awake except more entertaining things are happening. It’s a window to the subconscious in the sense I can tell problems from the day appear in them, but not in a Freudian way where they mean things.
The weirdest part is that you only realize the nonsense after waking up
Funny enough, I’ve been weirdly lucid in my dreams recently.
Congratulations! I’d love being able to lucid dream, I imagine it’s like being on some kind of drugs but without the risk.